How fast is he now and how fast do you think he'll be?
How fast will DCEU Flash possibly be in the future?
It really just depends on what they want to do. FTL isn't out of the question at all. The issue with that is FTL characters are ridiculously OP and will generally have to job. We'll see though. I hope they strike the balance of making him powerful while not making it hard to believe that he could lose to anyone.
@gateofbabylon Did you see that post on here earlier? The gif on this thread?
@factbro: Nope.
@factbro: I guess time travel speed or even speed to enter inside Speed Force aka speed to escape entire mulitverse since Speed Force exist outside the mulitverse
@bayman007 I read it, thanks!!
If they're making a Flashpoint movie, he'll definitely have to go MFTL and time travel.
He already time travelled in the BvS movie if I remember correctly.
He already time travelled in the BvS movie if I remember correctly.
That was him from the future, so yeah, we can expect he'll be that fast at least some point in the future, assuming he wasn't assisted by some tech.
@escrow: Snyder said he used the Cosmic Treadmill in the livestream. Does this take away his feat? IDK much about CT.
@starsprime3: IIRC it just allows the speedster to effectively control the time they jump to, so it shouldn't take away anything.
I have a feeling we are going to get the opposite of how the CW has dealt with their Flash.
CW Flash displays several LS and FTL feats, but the show has claims that he is not Light Speed.
DCEU Flash will have no feats that display he is LS or FTL, but has claims that say he is LS or FTL.
- Yet both will [likely] be jobbers.
We will have to wait and see though.
@olubummo: There is nothing wrong with me mentioning CW Flash in a DCEU Flash thread if I am making a contrasted example out of it.
The forum does not have to be about jobbers to express the concept that regardless of how fast they make DCEU Flash that he will likely become a jobber (like most takes on speedsters are).
I am free to answer beyond the box of the threads direct question, as I am still mentioning a topic that still is relative.
At no point did I express a clear aim at any primary points at downplaying either version of Flash.
@olubummo: I already address that Barry has many LS and FTL lvl feats. It is no surprise that Barry has some solid showings throughout his seasons.
Though you seem to have overinterpreted what I had said. I did not claim that CW Flash ONLY jobs; it is now downplaying to recognize that he jobs for the sake of the narrative. I did not claim he cannot do anything because he ONLY jobs. I simply addressed that he does job. As does so many characters as a whole: it is just very present with speedsters.
- If I may suggest. Don't put so many examples, heck I bet 3-5 get the point across that [in this case] CW Barry has some nice showings and does not always job. Honestly, I didn't even look at one of them: though I did already see you RT, and I suspect most of these to be relative to what was displayed there. I have viewed the series enough to know that CW Barry is quite impressive. I just don't think that shoving so many examples helps to keep the argument pace. Though it does get a blunt point across: IMO it is less fun. I just think that plenty of debaters are solid with 3-5 examples, if they want more you got them, but I don't think an abundance needs to be lead with. Do as you please though
@olubummo: DCEU Barry isn't LS as it currently stands. I think his fastest has been calced at Mach 6 or something.
As for how fast he'll be in the future, there's really no way to tell. I don't think they'd go for light speed though, because it would make writing stories around him too much of a mess as it is with CW Flash.
Lol. Imagine dropping a respect thread just cause you don’t like someone mentioning the fact that your favorite character jobs
@rbt: That is pretty fair, since through direct feats (and not scaling) he has much to prove still.
Scaling does help jump him quite a bit as he evaded a revived/amped Superman.
He also has additional written and intended content that claims him at light speed (or potentially faster).
Dude needs more feats. Hopefully the Snyder cut can give us an awesome Flash scene that gives us a stand-alone feat to calc and base his speed from. It is not as fun to say he is equal to Superman or Superman+. The fella should have his own 'wow' speed feats, yet his current standalone feats are not cutting such a great number. If I recall he is faster than Mach 6 by direct feats, but it still isn't impressive for a Flash.
Kinda sides with the threads question though. How quick will the fast boy be.
- This video is worth checking out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub82Xb1C8os
@rjr: Unless the time travel is by some sort of additional means. Like we saw on the CWs tv series that Barry was able to time travel at [a bit over] mach 2. Which was managed by some sort of means, so for all we know DCEU Flash time travels cause of some speed for tampering, overcharging, or something other than raw speed.
- Have to wait and see. Personally stoked to see what the Snyder cut does with Flash.
@crimson_comet: now that you mention, after looking into it again there was some reference to the cosmic treadmill. Now I'm curious to see what it looks like and how he will operate it.
@rjr: Which is interesting cause some ideas that were provided tell that Flash just straight up runs then time travels. The way I perceived the scene was that things go wrong, he runs and accidently time travels. Using this to make things right: like how CW Flash time travelled in the second crossover.
But we really do not know. For all we know he runs to the bat-cave and uses the treadmill or get just runs and uses raw speedforce to time travel.
Just have to wait and see. The Snyder Cut is currently supposed to release Sept 5, 2021 (based on a current and quick google search). A few more months and we may have our answer.
@crimson_comet: that's was actually a rumor, ETA has so for been predicted around a march release date. In fact Warner Media implied that it would get released sooner than we thought.
@rjr: I like to hear it.
Scaling does help jump him quite a bit as he evaded a revived/amped Superman.
I think that would be circular scaling. Combat speed wise, almost being on par with Barry is Superman's best feat, IMO. I don't think we can scale Barry back from Supes.
He also has additional written and intended content that claims him at light speed (or potentially faster).
Like? I know there was 'light speed' written on a document with Barry's face on it, but it could have been anything. As for Snyder's intent, he also said that Barry is scared to go light speed, so there's a mental block. Which means, Barry is potentially capable of such a feat, but the mental block means he isn't going to attempt it.
As for feats in Snyder cut, it will not really be canon. I think best bet is that Barry time travels in Flashpoint with a mention that he'd need to go FTL to do that.
Not fast enough to dodge all the warrants and lawsuits
Not fast enough to escape jail time either hopefully.
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