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#1 Posted by FireStarLord73194 (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

How far does Zorffy get in the Dragon ball universe?

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#2 Posted by NightSky86 (191 posts) - - Show Bio

BoZ Goku

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#3 Edited by jaycool2 (8633 posts) - - Show Bio

BoDB Bulma, but they stomp yamUcha

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#4 Posted by StormShadow_X (12666 posts) - - Show Bio

Past dragon ball

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#5 Posted by NewWorldOrder (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

Not far

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#6 Posted by Gotoucanario (2263 posts) - - Show Bio

Beats Beerus at Battle of the Gods

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#7 Posted by SeaGod (2584 posts) - - Show Bio

Saiyan Saga at the most

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#8 Posted by just_banter (11435 posts) - - Show Bio

Around the end of the original Dragon Ball to BoZ Goku

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#9 Posted by nickzambuto (29274 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy and Zoro wouldn't be the most potent fusion. Vegetto wasn't so ludicrously strong just because of the Potara magic, it was because two perfect rivals had chosen to put aside their differences and join forces. Yin and yang coming together, filling in each other's weaknesses and amplifying each other's strengths.

Zoro and Luffy have the exact same strengths as each other and the exact same weaknesses. Their powers wouldn't multiply, they would just stack. People in this thread are giving Rorokey D. Lurro way too much credit, I don't even see him matching up with the Daimao.

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#11 Posted by Skrskr (1467 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: what? Can I get proof behind that assumption? Even disregarding potara, fusion dance put 2 kids individually weaker than android 18 and pumped them up to past ssj3 goku.

The potara was originally meant for gohan and goku and the kais were hyping goku up on how it would multiply their power and they aren't yin and yang at all.

Even after retcon the potara made black and zamasus power multiply like crazy and they are literally the same person.

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#12 Posted by katrurius17 (742 posts) - - Show Bio

@skrskr said:

@nickzambuto: what? Can I get proof behind that assumption? Even disregarding potara, fusion dance put 2 kids individually weaker than android 18 and pumped them up to past ssj3 goku.

The potara was originally meant for gohan and goku and the kais were hyping goku up on how it would multiply their power and they aren't yin and yang at all.

Even after retcon the potara made black and zamasus power multiply like crazy and they are literally the same person.

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#13 Edited by nickzambuto (29274 posts) - - Show Bio

@skrskr: What assumption?

Calling Goten and Trunks weaker than 18 is the assumption. There's plenty of evidence saying they're much stronger, like Goten being dead equal with adult Gohan and Trunks being almost as fast as Vegeta. The fact that a basic, suppressed ki blast from Trunks made 18 pee her pants. Piccolo calling them Earth's only hope when Goku, Vegeta and Gohan died even though he was also still around. And the only reason Gotenks was so strong was because he unlocked SSJ3. The dance can easily work as a simple additive if we say something like this:

Goten and Trunks - 7

Gohan - 8

Vegeta (pre majin) - 9

Goku - 10

7 + 7 = 14, far stronger than Goku in the same form. Then they get SSJ3 on top of it. And this is giving you the most benefit of the doubt possible, assuming the Daizenshuu lied when it said Goten was just as strong as Gohan, and ignoring both of their training before the tournament as well as in the ROSAT. IMO a more accurate scale would be this:

Goten, Trunks, and Gohan - 8

Vegeta (pre Majin) - 9

Goku - 10

Goten and Trunks (post training) - 9

That would make Gotenks very nearly double Goku's strength. There's no reason the dance can't be additive.

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#14 Edited by Skrskr (1467 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: so you have no proof behind your ASSUMPTION that the potara only had increased affects because of how different vegeta and goku were, idk why you typed all that up.

Goten and trunks in the abo cado special which is cannon fought against someone Frieza level, and this was stated by goku to be a perfect match up for the kids and when abo cado fused they had to fuse themselves, not to mention 18 was casually fighting both the boys in the tournament even after their disguise came off.

So like I said your assumption of this yin yang potara booster is just that.

Also goten was not equal to adult gohan, he was just way more powerful than gohan was as a kid even goten remarks at how powerful he is, gohan was casually sparring with his brother and goten was putting out all of his effort.

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#15 Posted by FireStarLord73194 (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#16 Posted by NinjaWarrior268 (11064 posts) - - Show Bio

They don't even beat Raditz.

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#17 Posted by nickzambuto (29274 posts) - - Show Bio

They don't even beat Raditz.

They get nowhere close to Raditz.

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#18 Posted by SuperEntity (1509 posts) - - Show Bio

They stop at Mr popo