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I feel like doing more of these lesser known characters that no one knows real well, and think low of. This time it will be on my favorite characters, the Ghost Rider. There are 2 major Ghost Riders and some minor ones. It is important to know which is which to understand their power sets and abilities.

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What is a Ghost Rider?

Ghost Rider use to be a Demon bound to Johnny Blaze Body. It was seen as a curse and tool for the devil in the 70s and 80s. Then a New GR in the form of Ketch was a Spirit of Vengeance called Nobel Kale who was bonded to Daniel Ketch, brother of Johnny. Then in the 2000s GR has turned out this whole time to be a Angel with God's Vestige of Power. A Angel of Vengeance and Wrath placed on earth to deal out God's punishment.

The Origins of the Spirit of Vengeance.

Who is God that created them.

You just cannot kill a Ghost Rider. They will always find a host.

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Dr. Strange explains best the GR. The Human is a safety switch. Limiting the GR full power. However should that switch turn off, then a Spirit of vengeance brings the level of power of a Hell Lord like Mephisto into play.

These 2 GRs actually time travel to make sure the Futur they came from would not come to pass. In this case Zadkiel taking the throne of heaven and power over all creation. They even warn of the Secrete Invasion that has not happen yet lol.

GRs have also shown to travel to any Hell Realm and back to Earth.

The Ghost Rider Caleb has trouble taking down these Cowboys who are brought back from death by Satan with Demonic Powers. So Caleb BFRs via Hell Fire the Cowboys and what was left of the town into the Realm of the Ghost Riders.

Now that is covered lets get into specific GRs.

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Johnny Blaze / Zarathos

The original and best GR of the 70s, 80s, and 2000s. Blaze is the most well known by a small margin with Ketch second. So lets see what we can learn about this Ghost Rider.

The Origins as of Aaron's run on GR comics.

Lets look at his Abilities.

Hell Fire

Hell fire is GR bread and Butter. It can be made into various things, transmutate, as well Burn the Soul.

Hell Fire being used to Burn the Soul instead of the Flesh.

Hell Fire Balls. Very Accurate with too I might add.

Hell Fire Flame Throwers.

Scan 1, Scan 2-3, and Scan 4-5 are all Hell Fire Novas. The Radius is quite large.

Zarathos has also shown to make a Hell Fire Storm!

Zarathos also has a Hell Fire form of Telekinesis.

Scan 1: GR has also shown to Imbue other objects with Hell Fire.

Scan 2: GR can make solid Hell Fire objects as well. Even when he was at his weakest like in this scan.

Chains

The Chains of Ghost Rider are made of Hell Fire. They are Unbreakable by normal means and only broken with Magic or if GR is distracted. They are infinite in their making and can be made into spears, flechetes, and use to maneuver.

Scan 1: Rips a super human durable Lucifer Avatar in half.

Scan 2: Use to hold a Hell Lord in power Fallen Angel in place.

Scan 3: Drags Multi Ton Objects.

Scan 4: Uses them to latch onto the trees to counter attack.

Here he uses the chains to Incapacitate 2 Lucifer Avatars, each one possessing 1/3 of the Hell Lords total power.

Strength

GR Strength Varies from Human Control to Spirit of Vengeance (SoV) Control. As Human it is roughly 20-25 ton mark. As a SoV it is in the 200+ tons.

These are all Blaze.

Scan 1-2: Blaze Yanks apart the front part of a Airliner Jet.

Scan 3-5: Blaze Rips a Sky Scraper Down on Hulk.

Scan 6: Blaze yanks a Subway Car from the subway underneath.

Durability

This is the best part of GR. It is possible to KO a Human Control GR with Hulk level strength in one shot. However as a SoV, the only way to beat GR is powerful Magic or Heaven Forge Weapons. That is it. The reason for this is GR can reform with Hell Fire.

Scan 1: Blaze eats Nitro. No damage sustained.

Scan 2: Reforms Leg with ease once Zarathos takes over.

Scan 3: Reforms head with ease once Zarathos Takes over.

Scan 1-4: GR reforms after Dr. Strange's more powerful Magic Attack.

Scan 5-8: World War Hulk one Shots Blaze. Then Zarathos takes control and reforms.

It can be argued powerful reality Warpers can affect GR. However, Zadkiel with power over all God's Creation was unable to. In the GR, Son of Satan, and at times Tomb of Dracula comics the Jewish, Muslim, and Christian God is real and much responsible for the creation of Man and the Universe.

However this is all preference of the less popular Comics vs Popular Marvel ones that say otherwise.

I will show this battle soon to draw your own conclusions.

Skill

Blaze also has some Skill.

H2H against a superior foe like Fear Monger.

His Biker skill is unparalleled and the best Cyclist in the world.

Speed

GR speed is all on there rides.

Blaze and Ketch hit Hyper Sonic speeds in their race across Africa.

Dimension Travel!

All GRs have shown the ability to travel to Hell Realms and Earth. Blaze has done so twice.

1-2) Blaze soul is released from Hell. The Angel tells him to escape while he can, and Blaze Travels from where he was in Hell, to back on earth, cutting through KKK members.

3) Lucifer decides to let Blaze escape Hell to bring himself with Blaze to earth. Blaze travel out of hell and arrives above the earth. Clea also comments how he can Traverse Realms.

The Penance Stare

The GR most powerful move. Many people believe it is limited to the Guilty, this is False. It is limited to any Pain and Suffering one has cause whether for right reasons or not. If Superman punch a villain in the face to keep him from killing a child, he still caused pain to the villain. It will be payed back via Penance Stare. The PS also has a added ability of allowing GR to discover secretes in ones mind.

Scan 1-2: PS a Angel, which ends up killing it, and discovers the truth of the Ghost Rider origins.

Scan 3-4: PS Deadpool who is incapacitated by it for a short while till finally coming out of it. It clearly made him angry too.

Scan 5: Blackheart explains what the PS does, and on a being who gains power off of misery, and pain only makes Blackheart stronger.

Scan 6-8: PS a Fallen Angel to discover its true identity.

Scan 9: PS another Ghost Rider.

Scan 10: PS Dr. Strange.

The only time it has not work is if a) Your soul was protected by God's power or b) Have no soul. That is it. some times people bring up the Venom incident. The PS clearly worked there, just not to a high degree.

In this case the Penance Stare failed, because the Deacon here was empowered by Heavens own Zadkiel for Immunity.

Battles!

Now we get to the sweet stuff. The Battles. Starting of with Blaze.

70s Blaze took out Iron Man, Cap, Tigra, and even Humbled Thor.

Blaze vs Death Rider. Since GR is Immortal, Death itself decided to challenge Blaze to 3 Races for his life. Blaze agrees to save the innocents that Death put on the line. Blaze wins the first 1st, lost the 2nd, and then had to use his Cycle Skill with Cheating to cheat Death of a 3rd win.

Blaze finds himself against a powerful Psychic. So powerful that this Psychic Child can live forever, raise the dead, and transmute people. None of it works on Ghost Rider.

Blaze vs Savage Hulk. He wins through burning Hulk of Oxygen.

Blaze vs Hell Lord strength Kazaar, a fallen angel.

Blaze holds his own against Dr. Strange. However in the end it was Zarathos who totally rocked the Sorcerer Supreme's world.

Blaze vs Lufier Avatar. A weaker Avatar.

Blaze vs a more powerful Avatar. So powerful that Blaze has to let Zarathos fight from now on.

Blaze vs World War Hulk. In the end WWH smashed Blaze, but Zarathos Prove Hulk's best is nothing to him.

Blaze vs the Deacon. A Man empowered by Zadkiel with Heaven Weapons, Samson's Strength, and Immunity to the Penance Stare.

Blaze vs a cast down Angel of decent power.

Blaze vs Angels.

Blaze vs Ketch. The Epic GR vs GR struggle.

Now it is time for Zarathos battles.

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This is Zarathos true form which cause Classic Dr. Strange, Ketch GR, and the rest of the Midnight Sons retreat from most of the battles.

Zarathos battle with Mephisto. Zarathos had to be depowered before Mephisto could take him. This later is Retcon with current Origins, however both Nightmare and Mephisto as well Centurious confirm this. So a clash in continuity I guess lol.

Zarathos vs Null the Living Darkness. This guy later becomes a Defender level threat and minor Abstract Being. Nothing Null could do could effect Zarathos including shrinking him.

Zarathos overpowers Hell Lord Azmodeus in his own Hell Realm.

Zarathos vs Lucifer avatar that possessed Jack O Lantern who died in Cilvil War. Jack never stood a chance.

This is Lucifer at full power.

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Zarathos effortlessly pwns a Half Power Lucifer with no trouble.

Now a showing of the Brothers Ghost Rider vs Zadkiel. Some key thing first.... Zadkiel is the keeper of the Ghost Riders, a Arch angel, and tasked by God to oversee them on earth. Zadkiel plans to take the Throne for himself.

Zadkiel is no joke of a Arch Angel either and one of the stronger ones rivaling Lucifer, Kazaan, and Ruth.

He finds a plot whole and exploits it through Ketch gathering all the Spirits of Vengeance power and burn Heavens Gates down. After this Ketch, Blaze, and Vengeance are the only ones with Spirits left on earth, and are hunted down as they search for a way into Heaven. They team up with Son of Satan and a new Anti Christ called Kid Blackheart. Zadkiel meanwhile is getting the hang of his powers over all Creation.

Zadkiel power as God and gathering it fully over all Creation.

Finally the Brothers find their way to Zadkiel and battle.

Zadkiel cannot be beaten by them 2 alone, however with power over all Creation and his Reality Warping Powers was unable to do anything to the GRs. Then Blaze learns a new trick from Roxanne, Summoning the Spirits of Vengeance and overpower Zadkiel.

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Ketch / Nobel Kale

This is the brother of Ketch and in the 90s carries on the Ghost Rider Curse. Unlike Blaze set in the West, Ketch carries vengeance in New York itself coming into conflict with many Marvel Heroes like Spider Man, Hulk, Punisher, X-Men, and more.

Origins.

Unlike Blaze who made a deal with the Devil, Ketch simply came into line of the Family Curse and was possessed by the Spirit of his ancestor Nobel Kale. A Spirit of Vengeance created by both Mephisto and Uriel the Angel.

Ketch stumbles upon this curse in a junkyard after his sister, who was suppose to inherit the curse and not Ketch, was wounded. Uriel instead allows Ketch to inherit the curse via the Motorcycle.

Hell Fire

Just like Johnny, Danny makes use of Hell Fire. However Ketch makes uses more of his chains than Blaze.

Scan 1: Ketch makes Hell Fire wings.

Scan 2-3: Ketch makes Hell fire Avatars equal in power and strength when he collected other GR Spirits, thus increasing his power during Last Stand Arc.

Chains

Ketch was the first GR to make use of Chains as a GR.

Scan 1-2: Both examples of a Shotgun like Chain Attack.

Scan 3-4: Makes Chain Spears.

Strength

GR Strength varies from Human Control to Spirit of Vengeance (SoV) Control. As Human it is roughly 20-25 tons mark. As a SoV it is in the 200+ tons.

Scan 1: SoV lifts 200+ tons.

Scan 2: Ketch flips a car like a toy.

Durability

Ketch shows just how near impossible it is to KO or Kill a GR when the Spirit of Vengeance is in control.

Scan 1-2: Ketch survives Bomb with no problem.

Scan 3-4: Nobel Kale reforms from Super Lasers that slag everything.

Scan 5-6: SoV Ketch puts himself back together.

The Penance Stare

Ketch was comic wise the first user of the Penance Stare.

Scan 1: PS a Demon.

Scan 2: PS Venom and Venom felt it.

Scan 3: PS Mr. Hyde.

Scan 4: PS Blaze GR.

Battles!

Ketch vs Deathwatch and 2 fellow Demons.

Ketch vs Snow Blind.

Ketch vs Brood and Brood Queen. Strong enough to rip off the uber powerful Brood Queens skin right off.

Ketch vs Mr. Hyde.

Ketch vs Night Terror. A Powerful Vampire.

Ketch vs Snow Blind again.

Ketch vs another Ghost Rider from Japan.

Now that we covered Ketch lets cover Nobel Kale.

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Nobel Kale is the true power of GR Ketch. It is important to note that after the 90s run, Nobel Kale was separated from Ketch. This leads to Ketch being easily manipulated by Zadkiel, who give Ketch a new and undentified Spirit of vengeance.

Nobel kale works with Ketch and pwn Nightmare in his own Realm.

Nobel kale pwns Blackheart in his Hell Realm.

Nobel Kale vs Uriel, a powerful Angel equal to Mephisto as the first scan shows. No contest in power scaling.

SoV in Ketch beats one of Satan's best demons the Highway man with no effort.

SoV in Ketch vs Thrull. Spirits of Vengeance are just flat out immune to Physical harm.

Since I posted all the battles with Blaze and Ketch above I will not repost them.

Next up is Vengeance. a Human Control Ghost Rider with only a Vestige of the GR power. Was a sworn enemy of Ketch and ended up his best ally.

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Vengeance

Vengeance is Michael Badilino and cousin to the Ketch and Blaze Family. With the potential inside him to become a minor Ghost Rider, Mephisto release the power to battle Ketch.

This power later transfers into Kowalski as Badilino gave him the Hell Fire shotgun becoming Vengeance 2.

Hell Fire

Scan 1: Blasts Hulk a good distance.

Scan 2: Hell Fire Blast vs the mini Hulk monster called Rak.

Scan 3-4: Hell Fire explosions.

Scan 5: Hell Fire via touch.

Suicide Blast strong enough to kill even Ketch GR.

Chains and Spikes

Vengeance has a Bone Chain that he sometimes uses. However he mostly use Spikes unlike any other GR.

Scan 1-2: Spikes and there uses.

Teleporting

Vengeance found a unique way of Travel.

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Teleporting via Hell Fire.

Durability

Like all durability of human control GRs Vengeance and Vengeance 2 are mostly immune to small time damage.

Scan 1: Holy Dip Bullets.

Scan 2: Stomping from Blaze and Ketch.

Penance Stare

Yes Vengeance has it too.

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Used it on Ketch to prove a point.

Battles

Vengeance vs Ketch.

Vengeance vs Merge Hulk. It was a good showing of the durability and strength of Vengeance and in the end they team up to whip some tech suit baddies.

Vengeance vs Rak.

Both battles of Vengeance vs Dread, a Psychic who Mind Reads Moves and has minor Psy Healing Powers. Couldn't read Vengeance mind all that well.

Vengeance vs Dread and Rak. Spider Man is there and Vengeance is doing most of the work.

Vengeance losing control fights a highly train officer task to bring him down. She really had no effect on him the whole time.

Vengeance vs Ketch in one last battle in the most brutal way. In the end Vengeance just wanted to die.

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wow this is awesome!

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Very good !

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Ghost Rider is awesome.

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@bob808: Yes, and highly unknown for a Comic Character with 2 (Crappy) movies under his belt.

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This is great! I defiantly have a higher respect for Ghost Rider now.

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#10  Edited By dondave

Wonderful Respect Thread

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Ghost Rider is boss :)

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Love this!

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#15  Edited By NeonGameWave

Awesome and amazingly well done Respect thread!

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#16  Edited By Bronze_Surfer

@cadencev2: What does the penance stare really do beside show a clip show of your sins?

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Nice thread

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@bronze_surfer: Its not so much as a clip show. Its the pain you cuased and terror you instilled that is visit back onto you.

So for instance, you puched a bag guy in the face, did this 100 times. Your hit with the Penance Stare, every single punch you did, you feel it at once.

So think of all the pain you dealt in life, punching someone, stabbing, breaking someones bones in a fight, Accidentally shoved someone down, ect. is all payed back to you at once.

That is what it does.

It can also be used for Ghost Rider to dig information out of someones head as well.

@rustyroy: Thanks

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#19  Edited By Bronze_Surfer

@cadencev2: Good thing I got rid of my soul. I'ma go stare into a ghost riders eyes for a day.

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@bronze_surfer: Hence why souless people smack Ghost Rider around.

IIRC, Zodiac did not suffer the Penance Stare. Got killed by Suicide (Cannot remember the name but the dude wanted to die badly) though. ;p

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@cadencev2: A magnificent compilation and dissection. Love Ghost Rider, an Amazing character.

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@cadencev2 said:

@bronze_surfer: Hence why souless people smack Ghost Rider around.

IIRC, Zodiac did not suffer the Penance Stare. Got killed by Suicide (Cannot remember the name but the dude wanted to die badly) though. ;p

Zodiac as in the guy with all the demons in him right?

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GR never had the chance to PS him at all.

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One of the best respect threads on the vine imo.

Great stuff CadenceV2.

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Outstanding stuff, Cadence. I always find it shocking how little respect Blaze and the other riders get.

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@cadencev2: What I don't get though is how is the god that created the spirits of vengance acotiated with Hinduism if marvel has the Hindu Pantheon?

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@overlordarhas said:

@cadencev2 said:

@bronze_surfer: Hence why souless people smack Ghost Rider around.

IIRC, Zodiac did not suffer the Penance Stare. Got killed by Suicide (Cannot remember the name but the dude wanted to die badly) though. ;p

Zodiac as in the guy with all the demons in him right?

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GR never had the chance to PS him at all.

That scan shows a guy forced to dress as Zodiac, the real Zodiac has many eyes in his head when unmasked (signifying the # of Demons in him) and GR failed to PS him (Failing to execute PS just because he has many eyes is PIS to me.).

I have many eyes.....PS FAILED!
I have many eyes.....PS FAILED!

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@overlordarhas: Actually that is incorrect. It makes no sense as in the comic he was doing all the

@cadencev2 said:

@overlordarhas said:

@cadencev2 said:

@bronze_surfer: Hence why souless people smack Ghost Rider around.

IIRC, Zodiac did not suffer the Penance Stare. Got killed by Suicide (Cannot remember the name but the dude wanted to die badly) though. ;p

Zodiac as in the guy with all the demons in him right?

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GR never had the chance to PS him at all.

That scan shows a guy forced to dress as Zodiac, the real Zodiac has many eyes in his head when unmasked (signifying the # of Demons in him) and GR failed to PS him (Failing to execute PS just because he has many eyes is PIS to me.).

I have many eyes.....PS FAILED!
I have many eyes.....PS FAILED!

Im sorry I miss explained.

There never was a Penance stare at all. The only time he tried to PS Zodiak was the poor shcmuck Version. That was the only time.

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No where here did GR have a chance to PS, he was thrown off guard by the inhuman before more than anything. He never attempted it so we have no idea if it failed cause it never happen. Zodiak merely comments on how hard to focus on any 2 eyes. Nothing that it would failed.

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#30  Edited By cbishop

Man, this is an amazing post, but waaaaay long. I think you should have broken it up into a series - one blog for each GR - Blaze, Zarathos, Ketch/Kale, etc. Very awesome though.

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@cadencev2:

That is the question, why was GR caught off guard when first, he can over power him, second, he has both his hand caught, why did he pause upon seeing his head?

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@cadencev2:

That is the question, why was GR caught off guard when first, he can over power him, second, he has both his hand caught, why did he pause upon seeing his head?

Why not, GR has paused more than once when Dan was in controled. It not like it was say Nobel Kale, most of the 90s GR was Danny in controle part ways or all the way.

The point is he NEVER tried to Penance Stare him. So it really could not have failed if he never tried it.

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@cadencev2:

So it was Dan who hesitate, well I remember Caretaker saying "There is no you or him" when they brawled in the Nightclub when Seer tried to tell him the truth.

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@cadencev2: Yo, what do you know about the angels of the marvel U, im intrigued by them

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@cadencev2: Yo, what do you know about the angels of the marvel U, im intrigued by them

Angels are very poorly establish as of now in Marvel Universe. There is only a handful of cases where there has been Angels as well. The first Angel I seen was in 90s Ghost Rider called Uriel. Equal to Mephisto in overall power.

Then a Ghost Rider mini series called Road to Damnation shows a bunch of Angels with no real power except Ruth, who did very little magic and mostly was Grey Hulk like beast in stats.

In Arron's Ghost Rider run we see 2 more very weak power Angels that sort of filled no role in the comics other than that plot device to keep the story rolling. They threw light spears that seem to take it out of them. They were weak sauce.

At the end of Arron's Ghost Rider run we met Zadkiel, a powerful Archangel and his Archangel posse called the Black Host.These Angel proved to be equals with the Human Control Ghost Riders in battle and Zadkiel proved strong enough to massacre tons of other Angels with ease.

The Ghost Riders are also Angels, Angels of Vengeance. The most powerful kind of Angel out there.

Recently Neil Gaimen got the rights to Angela from Image Comics to Marvel Comics. She was featured in Guardians of the Galaxy. In the Image verse she was powerful enough to match most forms of Spawn. In the Marvel Universe she easily took on the whole cast of the Guardians of the Galaxy. However, her back story has changed and she seem to lost alot of her additional powers she had in Image Comics making her much weaker now.She is a Angel from Heaven, but no like any we seen before in the Ghost Rider Comics.

In the end, Angels change forms and power level with every writer. There is no standard to them, like say Asgardians, and they are rarely if ever used.

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@sebast_allen said:

@cadencev2: Yo, what do you know about the angels of the marvel U, im intrigued by them

Angels are very poorly establish as of now in Marvel Universe. There is only a handful of cases where there has been Angels as well. The first Angel I seen was in 90s Ghost Rider called Uriel. Equal to Mephisto in overall power.

Then a Ghost Rider mini series called Road to Damnation shows a bunch of Angels with no real power except Ruth, who did very little magic and mostly was Grey Hulk like beast in stats.

In Arron's Ghost Rider run we see 2 more very weak power Angels that sort of filled no role in the comics other than that plot device to keep the story rolling. They threw light spears that seem to take it out of them. They were weak sauce.

At the end of Arron's Ghost Rider run we met Zadkiel, a powerful Archangel and his Archangel posse called the Black Host.These Angel proved to be equals with the Human Control Ghost Riders in battle and Zadkiel proved strong enough to massacre tons of other Angels with ease.

The Ghost Riders are also Angels, Angels of Vengeance. The most powerful kind of Angel out there.

Recently Neil Gaimen got the rights to Angela from Image Comics to Marvel Comics. She was featured in Guardians of the Galaxy. In the Image verse she was powerful enough to match most forms of Spawn. In the Marvel Universe she easily took on the whole cast of the Guardians of the Galaxy. However, her back story has changed and she seem to lost alot of her additional powers she had in Image Comics making her much weaker now.She is a Angel from Heaven, but no like any we seen before in the Ghost Rider Comics.

In the end, Angels change forms and power level with every writer. There is no standard to them, like say Asgardians, and they are rarely if ever used.

oh, ok cool, they intrigued me alot, i just hope marvel can do morwe with them in the future

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Vive Spawn!

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#38 the_red_viper  Moderator

Awesome respect thread. Ghost Rider is awesome.

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Edits made and more material added in GR Teleporting abilities as well Penance Stare.

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#40  Edited By Cream_God

Ima go ahead and post some Robbie Feats :P

Beats up 3 thugs by himself
Beats up 3 thugs by himself

Bullet Proof, Strong Enough to punch someone through a car, and does a awesome knee breaker
Bullet Proof, Strong Enough to punch someone through a car, and does a awesome knee breaker
Dodges a missile point blank
Dodges a missile point blank
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#41  Edited By Cream_God
Omnidirectional Penance Stare
Omnidirectional Penance Stare
No more weakness to holy weapons, and brushes off a strike from Thor
No more weakness to holy weapons, and brushes off a strike from Thor
Survives Man-Things touch and incinerates him
Survives Man-Things touch and incinerates him

New Feats from uncanny avengers

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@icarusflies77: I was sorting some old links on my computer when I ran across this. Can it get moved to the Ghost Rider forum, rather than Gen. Discussion? This person put a lot of work into it- seems a shame for it to get lost here.

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A nice Geist Thread.

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Figure I post here for future reference of how the Penance Star works as so many people are ignorant to how it works.

How It Works

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Here he uses it on Blade with the power of the Darkhold. That little book that contains C'thons power. The Eldar god that created Dark Magic.

" Blades experience is no different from the countless others who have felt the pain they have inflicted."

"No different, but a hundredfold more severe."

"Every cell in his body explodes with the pain that he has inflicted upon his recent victims."

"He relieves their deaths a thousand times in the span of a microsecond."

"The Experience threatens to shatter his mind."

"My Penance Stare forces a man to experience the pain he has inflicted on others."

"He shall feel the agony he caused on just one day. During World War 1."

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Here he uses it without trouble on Madcap, a Psychopath being with a insanity stare. Thats how crazy and Morales this guys is.Add to this, Mad Cap has no feeling of pain either, yet he feels the Penance Stare's pain works on him fine.

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Works just fine on Dr. Strange who has the great TP feats, mental resistance, magic resistance, and a sound mind of any character.

Here it destroys a noble angel who answered only to God. This angel put his life many times on the line for Ghost Rider and a child. Holier than thou. Yet he was hiding a secrete which is enough for the Penance Stare to kill him.

This attack is so potent, it works on Ghost Riders themselves, embodiment s of Vengeance because they harm people, whether by Gods orders or not.

Other uses of the Penance Stare

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Use to exorcise demons from possessed before.

It can also be use to search the minds of others too, no pain need to be caused, like with this Fallen Angel with a identity crisis, this victim of a Wendigo, and Morbius the Living Vampire to judge his past sins.

Debunking When It Does Not Work

The Only time it has failed is when used on Souless people, people empowered by suffering, or people that are stated immune to it via divine intervention.

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Fails on souless people.

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Fails on Blackheart because he is a Hell Lord who is empowered by death and pain.

Debunked Fails of Penance Stare

Failed on Deadpool.

Nope it did not. Not only was Deadpool KOed, he was KOed for a long time. The time of day and color of sky went from light yellow to dark orange of twilight. Blaze stood around waiting for some time too. When Deadpool came out of it, he was so badly harm he got pissed instead making jokes. Debunk.

Punisher tank it. Yes he did, and it was simply WIS.

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The only explanation is the writer of Thunderbolts did no research on the Rider.

Venom tank it.

Kinda, not really. In the first fight with Eddie Venom, Ketch PS harmed Venom, badly. Second time on Agent venom it harm GR with too many sins, which is laughable, considering it worked on Blackheart. Again, this was written under the same writer who written the Punisher feat too, so clearly the WIS.

Fails on the Deacon, because he had a special stated plot device protection from it by the Angel Zadkiel.

Some say it needs eye contact. Wrong. The Penance Stare has also shown to be able to affect a whole city currently in comics.

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No eye contact required. Here Strange had to erect a special shield to protect himself, Man Thing (who is brain dead for the most part), Thor, Captain America, and more from it.

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Here Slade uses it to affect others without making eye Contact too.

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@sirfizzwhizz: Multiple things

  1. Where did those Scans of Ghostrider Penance Staring Logan come from? Just Curious
  2. It also should be noted that when Agent Venom was Penanced Stared, he had the Hell Mark.

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Nice!!

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@bullet_to_the_head: I takin to Jashro44 about the Hell ark. He said the Hell Mark was removed during that point in time.

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Nice thread