Full Potential MCU Quicksilver is Light Speed.

Mach 1 as of AoU, but much faster if he reached his fullest potential.

Loooooool

So sub relativistic Quicksilver? Aren't HYDRA dudes evil Nazis tho? So they can lie etc

Does this end the long reign of slow MCU? I mean, it's nothing to 616 Thor struggling to tag street tiers and punching slower than your average viner, but still.

@rajjarsalt: why would they lie about their test subjects speed outside of them being evil? In fact weren't Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch working for Hydra?

So Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are liars too. Eeeevil can't be trusted

That's literally not what it says

Well we know he's documented 400m/s and has been going closer and closer to light speed day by day in hydra captivity. What's your take?

So he was just over Mach 1 by feats? That's slower than even DCEU Diana. What a waste

This makes the other Avengers look worse speed wise. Even Thor was statued by Pietro

@deltahuman: Just say "Full potential Quicksilver" Vs Diana lmfao

My fat butt goes closer to lightspeed as I grow, Quicksilver growing "closer to lightspeed" means nothing

@joker567892:

I'd be Einstein if I reached full potential. Shame I haven't

Then why even say light speed if they didn't want to put a measure on what he was approaching?

Diana can't run at Mach 1, she's several times slower than the bullets she reacts to

Didn't he die to Mach 3 bullets tho

@rajjarsalt:

I think she can in short bursts. I'm not sure if you remember the scene in Wonder woman where she blitzes German soldiers like Faora blitzed the soldiers in MoS. Then in JL she speeds from one end of the room towards the children after the bullets were shot. She again blitzes off to save Aquaman from falling debris in JL end fight. It's obvious she can't sustain supersonic speeds for long duration like speedsters but at short bursts, she's fast.

Plus her reactions might be three times faster than Pietro if he's just over 400 m/sec. Diana has blocked bullets travelling 1200 m/sec or more. After WW84, she'll lasso lightning so her reactions might become sub relativistic if there is no context behind the trailer feat

Yeah I wonder if there's any calcs on that to measure how fast she's moving relative to the projectiles.

Lightning timing should be solid if she's not using those Daughter of Zeus powers to summon it to her

@kryptonianking88

He was mach 1 at the time it was written. In AoU a bullets near statued in the scene where he punches Cap and he picks Klaue's bullet out of the air.

@rajjarsalt:

Yup. Someone should calc it. About time.

It seems like, Diana statued the first bullet fired at her in the scene. Her Mach 3+ reactions shouldn't be limited to her perceptions alone because she'd have to move her body and hands away from the bullet to dodge it after it is fired from almost point blank range or to block them. Also kept in mind should be the rate of fire of the rifle. Modern ones reach 600 rpm or more. Diana blocked each and every bullet fired at the children and I'm sure the rate of fire was more than 600 rpm there. She'd have to see individual bullets, track them one after another (even in 600 rpm, that's 10 bullets per second) and block them

@kryptonianking88:

He's obviously slower than the Mach 3 bullets that killed him so between Mach 1 and 2 seems fair. And 400 m/sec is just over Mach 1. I think that's reasonable

Where's this from?

@bladeoffury: New guidebook, Wakanda Files.

I ran to imfdb and then wikipedia, assuming g36 hk rifle it should be 750 rpm

@rajjarsalt: she literally did in that bank scene. She had to move faster than bullets to save those people from bullets after they were fired. They move in slow motion to her.

@eri_joni: Ah.

Certainly a strange statement, since it first puts him a little over the speed of the sound, compares him to sound again, and then compares him to LS which is worlds apart.

And yet when we saw the slow mo the bullet was moving faster than her at the end

@bladeoffury: I think this is when he was at the Hydra base but not sure.

He should be much faster that sound, I noticed a few days ago that the bullet Clint shot had a mach cone trail.

@eri_joni: He could have definitely gotten faster so speed of sound is the lower bound, but there's no light speed argument here.

He should be much faster that sound, I noticed a few days ago that the bullet Clint shot had a mach cone trail.

That feat doesn't seem to be consistent, someone "as fast or almost as fast as a bullet" won't perceive bullets in such extreme slow motion. This wouldn't happen either:

@eredin12: His right arm, which moved reflexively to cover the wound, was in slow motion. He even blinked in slow motion. These are solid indicators that he wasn't capable of moving much faster.

Yet the light in the background was moving slower than him.

Yeah this is called new intent retconning old intent. GG

Yeah anyone who watches CW knows this pretty well

Moreover @bladeoffury It's not comparing him to sound twice and then to light, it's a HYDRA report logging how fast he's gotten ever since he's broken the sound barrier, which means QS 1 is slower than QS 2 is slower than QS 3, the number representing the day. It's solid intent considering it just came out recently and I'd invite anyone to argue otherwise.

Wdym, it's one statement I'm referring to.

@eredin12: That's until they actually have to react to something. For example, Flash maintained a conversation with people (operating at regular speed) but still reacted to a bullet after feeling it touch his skin.

Anyway this is dumb. The statement clearly intends him to go closer and closer to the speed of light day by day as his peak speed has an exponential increase in heat and energy.

Anyone remember e=mc^2? The closer to the speed of light you get, the more your energy approaches infinity. It's as clear as day lol

New intent in the statement retconning old intent in the statement as intents were established on two different days (day 1 QS at 400m/s, day # where he's some number closer to the speed of light since his speed increases daily)

Anyway this is dumb. The statement clearly intends him to go closer and closer to the speed of light day by day as his peak speed has an exponential increase in heat and energy.

Anyone remember e=mc^2? The closer to the speed of light you get, the more your energy approaches infinity. It's as clear as day lol

Speaking of which.

KE=1/2mv^2

If Quicksilver's energy increases exponentially and his velocity isn't (per the quote it gets closer and closer to a limit) then what do you think is increasing? Begins with m, ends with ass.

@bladeoffury: Yeah, reading it now it seems this is when he is at the Hydra base.

"The enemy of the twins is our enemy, and that makes them, and us, strong"

They were also experimenting with him, putting him in an ice bath.

So we have:

• 400m/s statement
• slow mo supersonic bullet
• statuing an arrow
• Statuing Iron Man who shot down 3 arrows at point blank

against

• "as fast or almost as fast as a bullet" .
• moving slower than a bullet.

And we don't know what bullet he was talking about when he made that statement. When he was moving slower than a bullet he could have been tired, which has happened before. Or he choose to not run at full speed to save energy.

>mach 1
>sees supersonic bullet in slow mo

lol

If he was as fast as that feat makes him out to be, he would have augmented his "operational speed," as you said, in reaction to the pain, and wouldn't be blinking and moving his hands in slow-mo after the fact.

@eri_joni: 400 m/s is a little over mach 1, how is it contradictory? It's hard to tell how much the arrow was moving since both QS and the camera were moving as well. Tony was still closing the distance to his target, he wasn't necessarily trying to go especially fast, and that's supported by Thor's ultron bot moving in that perspective.

There is no new intent or old intent in a single piece of evidence, and it cannot retcon itself either. The intent didn't change within it, all you can say is that he was intended to get faster as time passed (is that what you mean?)

Speaking of which.

KE=1/2mv^2

ah yes