Fairt Tail power level is above Naruto power level except God tiers

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#1  Edited By Woodward

I'm a huge Naruto fan but after watching Fairy Tail, I came to this conclusion. I'm gonna give plenty of reasons why this is actually true.

  • Magic > Chakra in terms of power, and this is why.

Zetsu explained the difference in power between Ninjutsu-based elements and natural elements:

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Ninjutsu based elements are basically artificial inferior rip-off of natural elements with limitations in all aspects. This is why Senjutsu is stronger and gives 10x multiplier.

Whereas in Fairy Tail, magic elements are a product of nature:

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Using that as comparative basis, we get the following:

Naruto who was burned from an artificial lava that does not have temperature of a real lava, and Team 7 scared of falling into lava:

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Would be melted when facing powerful fire users like Natsu and Igneel:

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Naruto and Sasuke get incased up by a generic ice:

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Would be frozen right to the bone when facing powerful ice users like Gray and Invel:

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I could go on forever, but the premise is clear.

  • Fairy Tail speed >>> Naruto speed.

Zetsu stated that natural lightning is physically impossible to dodge, which is confirmed by Itachi struggling to react to it and ultimately could not dodge it. Itachi is fairly a speedster in Naruto.

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BOS Gajeel evaded Laxus's lightning (which has natural properties to it), and Gajeel is not a speedster in Fairy Tail:

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  • Fairy Tail physicals >>> Naruto physicals.

Sakura and Tsunade are regarded as physical monsters in Naruto, and they're like building busters at most.

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But we have Gildarts smashing up mountains with a punch and Gildarts is not even the highest level of strength in Fairy Tail:

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  • Fairy Tail hax >>> Naruto hax.

-Larcade who can kill others by making them hungry, sleepy or feeling pleasure.

-Zeref who can stop and rewind time.

-Brandish who can shrink anything.

-Etc.

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#2  Edited By Adi_Frost

@woodward: Would like to debunk some of this.

"Ninjutsu based elements are basically artificial inferior rip-off of natural elements with limitations in all aspects"

False. Ninjutsu depends on the users chakra. Especially in the case of lightning style. Lightning style would be better to be called electric style as it can range from a casual shock effect to above even Sasuke's Kirin. Also I love how you use this one case to discredit all other styles when fire style is as hot as fire(can be hotter as well), water style is as wet as water, wind style is just like any wind (can range in potency and speed) and earth style is actual dirt.

Everything depends on the mastery of the jutsu and the amount of chakra. Depending on that, a jutsu can be stronger than their natural counter part or weaker.

"This is why Senjutsu is stronger and gives 10x multiplier."

Head canon and factually false. A bootleg version of the sage mode (curse mark) gives a 10x boost. The sage mode boost is unknown and that has no connection to ninjutsu elements being weaker. Sage mode adds onto the already existing hence why it makes stronger. If someone's lightning style would be stronger than natural lightning even then the sage mode will make him stronger.

"Naruto who was burned from an artificial lava that does not have temperature of a real lava"

Again a headcanon. Lava style is as hot as lava. It's not just a normal jutsu either, it's a kekkei genkai which has actually shown to be stronger than their natural counterparts. Haku's ice mirrors could tank sasuke's fire attacks even though sasuke's fire style could easily create craters on the ground with it's heat. Something that natural ice of the size haku created shouldn't be able to tank. So Lava style should be as hot as Lava if not hotter but that would be just an assumption so i'll it it at being as hot as Lava.

Also, the burn Naruto had didn't really hurt him that much. Gyuuki literally bathes in it later.

"and Team 7 scared of falling into lava:"

There is a difference between tanking Lava on your skin and falling inside Lava where your entire body will be immersed and Lava will seep into your ears and mouths burning your vital organs. I love how you use this to show Naruto and Sasuke can't tank Lava when Naruto in a WAY inferior form was holding it with minor scratches.

"Would be melted when facing powerful fire users like Natsu and Igneel:"

Natsu's fire style would be above Naruto's pay grade. But to prove that there was no need for that blatant downplaying.

"Naruto and Sasuke get incased up by a generic ice:"

Which both of them could break out of.

"Would be frozen right to the bone when facing powerful ice users like Gray and Invel:"

You do realise this doesn't depend on the scale of the ice style but rather the temperature. The evidence you gave is just scale based which would be fodder for someone like Naruto who was getting attacked by glaciers with the strength which which could rigorously shake mountain ranges. All of team 7 was in an ice dimension which must be inherently freezing cold and Kakashi & Obito (he didn't even have clothes) didn't even feel the coldness.

For your argument of freezing of to the bones to work, you need to establish that the ice you are talking about has a temperature much lower than the ice that Naruto and Sasuke tanked. Not the scale of the attack.

"I could go on forever, but the premise is clear."

It's really not.

"Zetsu stated that natural lightning is physically impossible to dodge, which is confirmed by Itachi struggling to react to it and ultimately could not dodge it"

Again, jutsu speed is also dependant on the users. But generally the speed of lightning style (more like elctric style) is lower than natural lightning.

Itachi was blind. I repeat, he was blind and dying. This is how blind he was when the battle started (after which he spams MS making him even more blind).

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And Itachi didn't struggle at all in reacting to the attack. He reacted to it and decided to block it. Nowhere does it suggest he didn't react to it or he couldn't dodge it. It just tells that he decided to block it (reacting to it even while being blind and near death).

"Itachi is fairly a speedster in Naruto."

He is top tier but there are better people that are not god tiers.

"BOS Gajeel evaded Laxus's lightning (which has natural properties to it), and Gajeel is not a speedster in Fairy Tail:"

Nope. Its lightning based on magic. And magic can be tweaked as well in accordance to the power of the user. So unless you can prove laxus's lightning is actually the speed of lightning, this is false. The statement that you showed DOES NOT show that magic and natural elements are exact same.

"Sakura and Tsunade are regarded as physical monsters in Naruto"

True.

"and they're like building busters at most."

If punching the flat ground and breaking it, creating dozens of small hill sized structures is just building buster to you then you clearly have no idea what a building buster is.

"But we have Gildarts smashing up mountains with a punch and Gildarts is not even the highest level of strength in Fairy Tail:"

Great feat. I do agree that fairy tail does have better physicals than Naruto top tiers.

"Fairy Tail hax >>> Naruto hax.

-Larcade who can kill others by making them hungry, sleepy or feeling pleasure.

-Zeref who can stop and rewind time.

-Brandish who can shrink anything.

-Etc."

Limbo, hax genjutsu, kamui, TSB, ETSB, etc are all better hax than those except maybe rewinding and stopping time. Though I do think creating time and space itself should be superior.

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Ok what did we learn here:

A river >>>>> any water style jutsu in naruto

A candle fire >>>>>> any fire style jutsu in naruto

Any one bit boulder irl >>>>> any earth style jutsu in naruto

A casual wind breeze >>>>> any wind style jutsu in naruto

A river turned ice >>>>> any ice style jutsu in naruto

.......by golly, the amount of salt someone has to eat in order to say this......mind blowing

Boi says Itachi was having trouble with Kirin.........fully ignores the condition he was in 0.o

Sakura and Tsunade are building lv at most???? Either never read naruto or read it and choose to wank the other verse and lowball smh

FT power lv maxes out to Naruto mid top tier lmao. Only now can one FT char be argued to be a high top tier in the narutoverse. Literally on average a ninja >> a mage

Nice try at least

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The salt that took to create this thread is probably more potent than the entirety of natural sea salt.

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This guy went from 1/3 speed of light kid Kakashi to this? What the hell happened

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This guy went from 1/3 speed of light kid Kakashi to this? What the hell happened

Fairy Tail happened.

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I'm literally shocked, what the hell have happened in here

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This thread about to get nuclear

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#12  Edited By Woodward

@adi_frost said:

@woodward:

False. Ninjutsu depends on the users chakra. Especially in the case of lightning style. Lightning style would be better to be called electric style as it can range from a casual shock effect to above even Sasuke's Kirin. Also I love how you use this one case to discredit all other styles when fire style is as hot as fire(can be hotter as well), water style is as wet as water, wind style is just like any wind (can range in potency and speed) and earth style is actual dirt.

Everything depends on the mastery of the jutsu and the amount of chakra. Depending on that, a jutsu can be stronger than their natural counter part or weaker.

Reread what Zetsu said.

Doesn't matter. Whichever one it is

The statement encompasses every Chakra-based element, not a specific element. Lightning was an example of that; Chakra-based element doesn't travel at Mach 290, and Kirin busted up a mountain which is something no Lightning Jutsu has ever done. Another example is Katon; Sasuke overpowered Itachi's Katon when using Curse Mark.

The intent is pretty clear that Chakra-based elements are limited by Shinobi's Chakra, hence why they are always weaker. Zetsu wasn't talking out of his ass, he was the one who created the Shinobi world. He knows everything they can do.

Head canon and factually false. A bootleg version of the sage mode (curse mark) gives a 10x boost. The sage mode boost is unknown and that has no connection to ninjutsu elements being weaker. Sage mode adds onto the already existing hence why it makes stronger. If someone's lightning style would be stronger than natural lightning even then the sage mode will make him stronger.

You do realize if Curse Mark gives 10x boost, then SM is higher considering Curse Mark is inferior according to Kabuto?

Again a headcanon. Lava style is as hot as lava. It's not just a normal jutsu either, it's a kekkei genkai which has actually shown to be stronger than their natural counterparts. Haku's ice mirrors could tank sasuke's fire attacks even though sasuke's fire style could easily create craters on the ground with it's heat. Something that natural ice of the size haku created shouldn't be able to tank. So Lava style should be as hot as Lava if not hotter but that would be just an assumption so i'll it it at being as hot as Lava.

It's not headcanon. Take it up with Zetsu who created the Shinobi world.

For your argument of freezing of to the bones to work, you need to establish that the ice you are talking about has a temperature much lower than the ice that Naruto and Sasuke tanked. Not the scale of the attack.

-Invel's ice is cold enough it can freeze Natsu's flames. Taken consideration of Natsu's heat feats, Invel's ice temperature close to absolute 0.

-Gray had a feat in pre-time skip where he froze the air itself, which would take -220C to accomplish. And that isn't Gray's best ice feat in terms of potency.

-Silver froze the Atlas flames and the Sun Village which is located in desert landscape, and his ice remained there for days unaffected.

Unlike Kaguya's ice that has no cold potency feats and only incases, these guys freeze right to the core.

Itachi was blind. I repeat, he was blind and dying. This is how blind he was when the battle started (after which he spams MS making him even more blind).

Zetsu created the Shinobi world and seen what Shinobis are capable of, and came to the conclusion they are slower than lightning. This is confirmed by the 4th Raikage, the top speed ceiling, is a lightning timer. Also, Itachi only mentally reacted to lightning and he has precognition, he doesn't have lightning movements or combat speed.

Nope. Its lightning based on magic. And magic can be tweaked as well in accordance to the power of the user. So unless you can prove laxus's lightning is actually the speed of lightning, this is false. The statement that you showed DOES NOT show that magic and natural elements are exact same.

Laxus's lightning has a statement indicating it's natural, has shown natural properties like coming down from cloud, it was redirected by a rod, affecting machine suggesting its electromagnetism properties. Calling it magic ain't helping you.

If punching the flat ground and breaking it, creating dozens of small hill sized structures is just building buster to you then you clearly have no idea what a building buster is.

Hills look like this:

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Not this:

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But fine, I won't call it building level. I'll say it's city-block level. Thankfully, pre-time skip Natsu was pulling off city-block physicals:

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Limbo, hax genjutsu, kamui, TSB, ETSB, etc are all better hax than those except maybe rewinding and stopping time. Though I do think creating time and space itself should be superior.

Hax is subjective so I'll leave it as it is.

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Anybody that believes any of this needs help.

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