Elemental Arts Discussion: Waterbending

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With quarantine uniting us all on the internet, I've noticed increasing interest in Avatar related topics, which means it's the best time to work on something I've been wanting to do for a while now. In the near future, there will be 4 blog entries (this is one of them in case you're wondering) where I'll be breaking down my thoughts, observations, theories and interpretation of the 4 types of bending presented in Aang and Korra's eras. I'll be discussing pretty much everything related to them, their history, philosophy, evolution, styles. Hopefully, it might also spark some interesting conversations - and ofc I'm free to elaborate on everything. While all I mention is based on the lore as presented in the series, novels, interviews and related mediums, I want to note that this isn't a canonical encyclopedia, it's my personal thoughts upon rewatching both shows the past weeks and attempt to organise my views on each elemental art, as well as discussing the topic with other members of the fanbase. At the end of the write-up, I will include a bibliography where all sources I drew information from will be mentioned. P.S. - english is not my first language but I tried to make this esspecially well articulated because it digs into some difficult stuff. Forgive any typos and/or grammatical errors you might come across.

The Element of Water.

"Waterbending is the art of controlling and manipulating water in all its forms. [...] I learned how to waterbend from your mother. I understood how the flow of chi was crucial to this style of bending. It was thrilling to hone this talent." - Avatar Aang (Avatar: The Last Airbender, Legacy)

I. History and Philosophy of the Element.

Like every one bending art, waterbending sources from the ancient creatures pre-dating any life form, the Lion Turtles, who possessed timeless wisdom and powerful, spiritual energy. Since the beginning of time, they would serve as the protectors of humanity, briefly granting mortals access to waterbending in times of need. The chosen life form initially gifted the permanent skill of waterbending from the Lion Turtles was the Moon. Interestingly enough, waterbending is the only elemental art the Lion Turtles passed down to one of the spirits instead of the fauna. Even so, the spirits of the Moon and the Ocean gave up their immortality in exchange to the forms of Koi Fish - Tui and La - near the beginning of time, representing Yin and Yang and circularly moving in concert with one another to maintain an equilibrium in the universe.

With Avatar Wan, the first of the Avatars, granted waterbending, humanity had an ancestor, and in time, a representative to study the art under the gifted life forms. Up to that point in time, mortals merely used the elements as weapons, simple tools for survival, instead of energy and life. Observing the ways of the Moon, humans learned to control water as it was meant to be, stimulating the flow of the oceanic tides as they were being pushed and pulled by the Moon. Such is the case with the nature of the bending art, with waterbenders utilising their positive jing almost as much as their negative one to slowly move in harmony with the water's natural flow.

"The legends say the moon was the first waterbender. Our ancestors saw how it pushed and pulled the tides and learned how to do it themselves ... Our strength comes from the Spirit of the Moon, our life comes from the Spirit of the Ocean. They work together to keep balance."

Princess Yue (Avatar: The Last Airbender: Book 1, "The Siege of the North I")

Water is the element of change. According to Iroh's teachings, the people of the Water Tribe are capable of adapting to many things, which, nonetheless, would seem fitting given waterbenders are the most reliant on their surroundings to practice their art. The people of the Water Tribe originally lived in the most remote and extreme conditions, in the two opposing Poles of the planet. Even so, they've never struggled reaching other civilizations and spreading their culture in locations all around the globe, like the waterbenders of the Foggy Swamp living in the southwestern end of the Earth Kingdom. In any case, their people are peaceful and possess a deep sense of communication, relying on their power for defence and graciousness, rather than offence and aggression.

The eternal dance of Tui and La (The Last Airbender: Book 1,
The eternal dance of Tui and La (The Last Airbender: Book 1, "The Siege of the North I")

The philosophy of the Water Tribes is painted on their very insignia, symbolising the peaceful co-existence of the Moon and the Ocean spirits, one opening way for the other as the crescent moon and the oceanic waves stand side by side. The people's beliefs for synchronised cooperation amongst all Nations is exhibited in the clearest possible way in the relationship between these two spirits.

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II. Waterbending and Nature.

Waterbending is directly connected to the natural conditions of its surroundings, affected by the given location, temperature, time and weather conditions of a terrain. Waterbenders are at their strongest within extreme cold, at night time - when the Moon replaces the Sun as the dominant source of light - and during rainstorms, snowstorms or drizzles. This is heavily reflected both on the Water Tribes' homes being the North and South Poles, where snow falls year-round, and on the dominant season of the waterbenders, the winter season, when the most waterbenders are born. Likewise, extremely high temperatures can affect waterbending negatively, and restrict a waterbender's power to the degree that the ability to pull water out of the air or sustain an adequate amount of water in its liquid form would become impossible.

The art's dependance on the Moon is demonstrated the most during a lunar eclipse and at a night of a full moon respectively. At the time of a lunar eclipse, waterbenders lose their power entirely, whereas during the full moon, their bending is at its peak. If the physical form of the Moon spirit is killed, waterbenders will permanently lose their power. As such, it is worthy of note that waterbending is the natural antithetical bending art to firebending.

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III. Waterbending: Technology and Art.

Before the end of the Hundred Year War, most technological advancements functioned primarily with the use of bending. Vehicles and weaponry for battle were of high value for every Nation after the genocide of the Air Nomads, including the Water Tribes - or to be precise, the Norther Water Tribe, that survived the imperealistic attitudes of the Fire Nation. The Northerners had the resources and man-power to craft a carefully designed, rich city made of ice, where the Royal Palace, the temples, markets, academies and homes of the people were located and built on water. It is only natural that such a beacon of culture would be well protected from outsiders, and every aspect of the first line of defence seemed to center around waterbending.

Waterbenders would patrol and use makeshift icebergs to prevent foreigners from reaching the city well outside its location. In order to get inside through conventional means, the guards of the city were required to bend the outter walls and open way. Meanwhile, the water flowing all around the icy city sourced from openings within the tops of these walls. This allowed waterbenders to use them as weapons in times of need, acting as hydro-cannons to be used against intruders. Finally, during the final stages of the Hundred Year War, the Mechanist worked on an original concept of Sokka's to build submarines powered by waterbending. Waterbenders inside the submarines would control the tides around the machinery to successfully allow it to sink and float.

While no weapons used in traditional martial arts are known to enhance a waterbender's efficiency in battle, Avatars Kyoshi and Aang used fans and a staff, weapons used to compliment airbending, respectively to perform techniques, including flash freezing water solid. Tagaka the Pirate Queen also utilised a sword, albeit not in tandem with her waterbending.

Early concept art of a woman waterbending while wielding a sword, by Bryan Konietzko (Avatar: The Last Airbender: Art of the Animted Series)
Early concept art of a woman waterbending while wielding a sword, by Bryan Konietzko (Avatar: The Last Airbender: Art of the Animted Series)

A noteworthy piece of equipment for many waterbenders however, are waterskins of various shapes and sizes. Often time, waterbenders will carry these skins in travels, to avoid situations where they'd be deprived of a water source, and therefore their ability to bend an ample quantity of water.

Beyond offensive measures, waterbenders have always had a natural advantage over other militaries in select warzones, or against specific, but nonetheless high profile, weapons. Even though the Water Tribes do not possess the resources of the Fire Nation, the Earth Kingdom, or the United Republic, deeming their technology inferior by default, waterbenders make for an extremely dangerous substitute of a Navy, being able to control the very body of water below any boat or ship. It is of no surprise that the most powerful pirate groups originate from the Water Tribes. Additionally, many of the strongest weapons ever created, such as the war-tanks, mecha-tanks, underwater torpedo systems, or the Fire Nation's giant drill, functioned in part using water, making waterbending a fine defensive system against such machinery.

Architecture, sculpting and the military are all directly connected to the bending traditions, but waterbending is also a useful everyday tool for the Water Tribes; waterbenders used their art as a tool of enhanced transportation long before the invention of the submarine, evidenced by how the Swampbenders boosted the speed of their skiffs, particularly during hunting. And relating to hunting, it should be noted that the Water Tribes relied solely on sealife for food and natural resources, making waterbending a valuable asset both for fishing and cooking.

Katara catches a fish (The Last Airbender: Book 1,
Katara catches a fish (The Last Airbender: Book 1, "The Boy in the Iceberg"), Master Pakku bends the steam heating his meal (The Last Airbender: Book 1, "The Waterbending Master")

During ceremonial acts or celebrations of the Water Tribes, waterbending demonstrations are prepared in a manner similar to that of a theatrical execution; the graceful motions of a master waterbender connecting with their element and acting in unison with the natural flow of water as performed under the moonlight seems like nothing short of an aesthetic transcendence. Modern festivities of the - less spiritual - Southern culture involve tools related to water such as standard water pistols at a shooting range, where waterbending is not called for, but nevertheless fitting.

Waterbending act during a welcoming ceremony of the North (The Last Airbender: Book 1,
Waterbending act during a welcoming ceremony of the North (The Last Airbender: Book 1, "The Waterbending Master")

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IV. Bending Styles.

Waterbending is based on a style of T'ai chi ch'uan, specifically the Yang style. It is a Chinese martial art that features slow movements and elegant forms that evoke the feel of flowing water.

"[...] Tai Chi uses similar techniques to redirect the energy from an attack to use against an opponent. As with Tai Chi, the Waterbender's intent is to control opponents, not harm them. Both disciplines were influenced by ancient healing practices in which healers redirected energy paths in the body to cure ailments. Their strict belief in controlling rather than destroying, healing rather than harming, and using their power for defense, not attack, are at the heart of the humane and noble characteristics of all Waterbenders. Both Waterbending and Tai Chi are less about strength, than about body alignment, breath and visualization. In both these arts, softness and breathing prove more powerful than hard aggression."

Avatar: The Last Airbender, "Ancient Martial Arts Influence" (The Lost Scrolls: Water)

With a rather slim emphasis put on the negative jing, a waterbender fluidly balances between offence and defence, primarily utilising upper body movement. The central aspects of waterbending are common in all three bending styles. The styles are divided based on the three Water Tribes: the North, the South and the Foggy Swamp. The Water Tribe was originally located solely in the North Pole. Due to this, the two polar styles are famously similar, while the Swampbenders utilise a more distinct, less explored style.

The swampbenders propelling their skiffs (The Last Airbender: Book 2,
The swampbenders propelling their skiffs (The Last Airbender: Book 2, "The Swamp"), the swampbenders fend off the Fire Nation's attacks (The Last Airbender: Book 3, "Day of Black Sun II: The Eclipse")

At this point, it is worth noting that neither the Swampbenders, nor the outsiders were aware of each other's existence. Due to this isolation from the world, their waterbending seems to favor more functional use, rather that aesthetically pleasing, or combatively strong techniques. Their stances tent to be rigid, fitting for benders not used to flowing, but rather stationary water, their water rings shaped as less complex, and more straight formations. What is interesting about this style is that when called into battle, the swampbenders seem to be using movements similar to those used for their everyday needs, all the while incorporating unorthodox footwork in their forms.

The Northern style is the original waterbending style. It appears to emphasize on more fluid, delicate motions that resemble a more defensive, as well as more indirect methodology, as opposed to the more direct nature of the Southerners, whose waterbending also appears to be more flexible, and resourceful. In order to distinguish between the two styles, one needs to observe the stylistic differences between masters of the respective Tribes.

Pakku's style of waterbending in duel is best perceived as entirely defensive, or rather highily indirect. He prefers to control his opponent's position, or turn their offence to his own defence, only resorting to an attack stance when they approach a threatening range. Even while explicitly attacking, his techniques involve surrounding the opposition with waves and projectiles, attacking from above, sideways or below: never in a head on assault, unless it means opening distance as a form of defence that is, effectively coming in contrast with Hama's own waterbending style. Hama utilises all the key aspects of the art, much like the Northerners, but in a much more direct manner. As she redirects the opposition's attack, she further adds to it using her surroundings, resulting in a powerful, focused assault. When defence is called for, she resorts to a water ring formed exclusively for colliding with the opposition's attempt. It must be acknowledged, that this more offensive waterbending is not lacking in grace. The southern style is as fluid as required, and the techniques used are highily complex. The main differing aspect is the mindset and objective, and all traits noted are a result of comparison between this style and the Northern one.

Kya previously made use of the direct, and offensive
Kya previously made use of the direct, and offensive "Horse jumps over the stream" form of Tai chi, but shifted to the delicate Che bu stance seconds after. Her incorporation of the Southern style does not take away from the fluidity of her technique (The Legend of Korra: Book 3, "The Metal Clan")

Similar conclusions can be drawn upon review of each Tribe's approach to invading forces. The South did not have access to an organised military, and as much as this made them an easy target to the Fire Nation, their waterbenders still thrived under pressure. Trained soldiers of the North would rely strictly on traditional forms of waterbending and united attempts to fend off raids. The southerners would put pressure on the firebenders through sheer willpower, using unorthodox techniques such as tunneling under the ice - tactics inspired by the art of earthbending - before unleashing unrefined flash freezes.

The key stylistic antithesis between the Northern and Southern waterbenders can effectively be attributed to the Water Tribe's history; when the Southerners attempted to survive, the Northerners attempted to progress. Financially adept, the more refined, spiritually connected, zen culture of the latter is reflected on their bending, much like the need for survival is reflected on the former's more aggressive and resourceful, yet versatile style. It is this innate principle, the requirement for survival, that developed waterbending into the most imaginative of the arts - water is located within thin air, the flora, the very human body; and as the will to survive is limitless, as too are the possibilities of waterbending.

Hama tutors Katara in the abilities of an open minded waterbender (The Last Airbender: Book 3,
Hama tutors Katara in the abilities of an open minded waterbender (The Last Airbender: Book 3, "The Puppetmaster")

The mixture of the two polar styles is an intriguing concept evident in Katara's original bending, with hints both from the North and the South. Katara is a southern waterbender trained in the Northern Tribe. Examining her skill set, it is difficult to deduce what her preferred style is, much less which techniques originate from each Tribe, although this only reinforces the theory that a flawless blend of the two is the most balanced of all styles. At times, Katara seems to switch between styles when facing different obstacles and terrains. Fighting the beast of the Serpent's Pass, she never resorts to direct offence, instead utilising tactics that are not meant to harm, as much as to control the pace of and incapacitate the serpent, attempting to freeze it from the side before trapping it in a whirlpool. When faced with Huu's Swamp Monster, though, she attempts to fight it directly, and inflict the highest possible damage, using lethal techniques, powerful blasts of water and charging at it head on, without choosing to icebend offensively once. When she does icebend, she does so to creatively rescue her brother. The theory of a unique blend of the waterbending styles is strengthened upon restrospect of Kya's own style, with Katara having passed down her knowledge to her daughter.

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V. Elemental Influence.

The bending world acts much like a spectrum to the four elements - the elements are universally connected, with each one contributing to balance, a natural order, as the traditions of the Avatar would have us believe. It is only natural that each of the arts would influence the other. Akin to how the fine arts can never be percieved outside a holistic scope, neither can the bending arts.

Waterbending is particularly multilayered as a skill. Practitioners have the potential to control water in all its forms, liquid, solid, gas, and even further. Specialised skills of waterbending such as plantbending involve bending a substance the bender themselves cannot perceive, a quality unique to airbending of all 4 main arts. Katara's bending of leaves and vines - or rather bending of the water inside them - is strikingly similar to ancient airbending forms.

Avatar Aang and Katara bending the clouds (The Last Airbender: Book 1,
Avatar Aang and Katara bending the clouds (The Last Airbender: Book 1, "The Fortuneteller")

What's more, an airbender and a waterbender working in unison to bend clouds into shape resembles a harmonic duet, a beautiful dance much like the Baguazhang martial art, the base of airbending.

On the contrary, when bending solid structures in ice, a waterbender will implement forms almost identical to those of earthbenders. They key to earthbending is a strong stance, and determined movement. The soft, graceful tactics called for in waterbending almost fade away as the bender begins to manipulate the solid form of the element, and they are replaced by powerfully executed work of the arms and heavily rooted footwork, which Hung Gar, the central influence of earthbending, features. Unlike the flow of the water, these stances evoke the power of the earth.

Lin Beifong metalbends a gate open (The Legend of Korra: Book 1,
Lin Beifong metalbends a gate open (The Legend of Korra: Book 1, "Out of the Past"), Unalaq prepares to bend permafrost (The Legend of Korra: Book 2, "Darkness Falls")

The philosophy of waterbending has also gifted the other nations however. The strength of Tai Chi, turning your opponent's offence to your defence and back, it is showcased in all bending arts. And more than ever before, it is evidenced on a firebending technique Iroh invented studying waterbenders - the skill to redirect lightning. What is fascinating about this skill is that the polar opposite element of water advanced to a higher level upon an open minded firebender respecting the wisdom that the four elements are but one entity split into four different forces.

Iroh tutors Zuko in the skill to redirect lightning (The Last Airbender: Book 2,
Iroh tutors Zuko in the skill to redirect lightning (The Last Airbender: Book 2, "Bitter Work")

The principle of traditional waterbending proves so powerful in this technique that it allows the bender to take control of power they themselves cannot generate, and, no less, sustain it. Similarly, waterbenders have developed the art of healing, guiding chi energy within a body directly*, which appears to have inspired an identical firebending technique utilised by a spiritually adept Shaman of the Bhanti Tribe in the Fire Nation.

Observing the influence waterbending has had on the other bending arts, and the kind of influence that is, the defensive nature of the element is highlighted here more than anywhere. Unlike earth, fire or air, water is not an aggressive element. Water will remain tranquil until an earthquake, a hurricane, an eruption impacts it. In its essence, waterbending at its finest is a source of defence, not offence, much like a waterbending master is the defender, instead of the aggressor.

*refer to the below section

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VI. Sub Skills of Waterbending.

As each bending art's sub skills fall under the same philosophy as the element they source from, the skills of healing, spiritbending, plantbending, and bloodbending, skills only a select few benders are gifted with, all center around controlling the flow of energy within life.

The art of healing is essentially guiding the chi energy within a body, corresponding to a waterbender guiding the result of a body using their chi energy to produce bending. The technique is inspired by reiki. Using water to examine and guide energy through the body's chi paths, a healer can successfully attempt the alleviation of mental and physical distress, and even control one's body temperature. The use of water with spiritual properties in the hands of a master can potentially restore someone from fatal injuries. In any case, the movements required to perform the technique are characterized by circular motions that echo the flow of water. As such, when the subject's chi has been blocked internally through nerve damage, it becomes increasingly difficult for a healer to open their paths. According to Yugoda's teachings, the renewal of a chi path upon healing will affect the subject's body holistically, eludicating the matter of how blocking a subject's chi can challenge a healer's performance.

Yugoda's healing lesson (The Last Airbender: Book 1,
Yugoda's healing lesson (The Last Airbender: Book 1, "The Waterbending Master")

The healing technique was taken further by Unalaq, who developed the art of spiritbending. Just as controlling the energy paths within a physical body, a waterbender can potentially control a spirit, as much as the spiritual form of a living being, as a whole. Spirits are an adequate quantity of energy focused to create the illusion of physical bodies; using identical movements to those of healing, a spiritbender can lighten or darken the energy of spirits, achieving possitive or negative effects respectively.

The aforementioned, rare ability to bend particles of the element a bender cannot perceive is apparent in a waterbender's ability to bend the water within plant life. Like every life form, plants are composed of skin and substances that cannot be without water. The technique was developed in the Foggy Swamp and in parts of the world that did not provide waterbenders with a necessary source of liquid. The uses of this skill vary, from controlling the water within the flora to manipulate the plants themselves, to pulling the water from within them. The specific philosophy behind plantbending, when combined with waterbending's preference towards controlling an opponent's movement, was the cause of inventing the darkest of the bending arts. According to Hama, bodies are nothing but skins filled with liquid. It took coming to this realisation to develop the skill of bloodbending.

"Controlling the water in another body, enforcing your own will over theirs."

Hama (Avatar: The Last Airbender: Book 3, "The Puppetmaster")

Under the effects of this technique, the subject is in a state of complete, physical submission. Utilising forms that resemble the Chi Na martial art, the waterbender can control every vein and muscle within a body, move it like a puppet, violently twist and lock their limbs and joints, disrupt the blood flow within them. The only effective counteract to this technique is a more powerful waterbender's ability to overcome the grip. Bloodbending requires the waterbender's power to be at its peak; originally, the skill could not be performed without the light of a full moon. Yakone was the outlier to this rule, powerful enough to bloodbend in daylight, with this gift passing down to the next generation of his bloodline, Noatak and Tarrlok.

Noatak removes Lightningbolt Zolt's firebending (The Legend of Korra: Book 1,
Noatak removes Lightningbolt Zolt's firebending (The Legend of Korra: Book 1, "The Revelation")

Able to bloodbend using his mind, Noatak developed a new bending technique, combining the skill with his knowledge of the human body's pressure points, he disrupted a bender's chi paths to sever them from their ability to bend, permanently. The effects of this technique are so strong that, without the Avatar's intereference, they are everlasting.

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VII. Specialised Techniques.

The bending arts involve extremely complex mechanics, and to use those mechanics to invent unique bending styles is nothing short of remarkable. In the case of waterbending, there are two techniques that call for individual examination: Huu's plantbending, and Ming Hua's armless waterbending respectively, demonstrations of nearly unmatched precision amongst waterbenders.

Huu was a waterbender of the Foggy Swamp Tribe, and the Swamp's disguised protector. Bending the water within the swamp's saturated vines, he could form a gigantic armor around himself, maintaining the illusion that he was a beast instead of human. The nature of the technique allowed for Huu to regrow his formation's lost plantlife in a moment's notice, instantaneously increase in size, and bend vines out of the swamp's floor from a distance, effectively controlling the terrain all around him.

Huu's regrowing of the vines (The Last Airbender: Book 2,
Huu's regrowing of the vines (The Last Airbender: Book 2, "The Swamp")

This bending style is not completely reliant on vines however; when called into battle outside the Fire Nation's capital city, Huu used a variant of the technique, bending seaweed to accomplish an identical formation of similar power, granting himself strength and resilience unlike any one bender's. The one weakness of this style lies on the fact that the vines, while connected upon Huu bending them together, are still separate components of the formation.

Ming Hua's technique is more complex, and requires very detailed analysis. The waterbending master of the Red Lotus was born without arms, and achieved connection to her element similar to that of Toph Beifong, overcoming a physical disability using her bending to turn her weakness into strength. While bending masters are capable of a minor degree of psychic bending, Ming Hua fully abuses the skill and uses her backbone to create upper body prosthesis of water for herself on the spot, while using her facial muscles and legs to execute more complex forms.

Ming Hua would adapt her lower body to carry out traditional techniques with identical footwork to that of an able-bodied waterbender, but highlighted movement of her core (The Legend of Korra: Art of the Animated Series - Book 3: Change)
Ming Hua would adapt her lower body to carry out traditional techniques with identical footwork to that of an able-bodied waterbender, but highlighted movement of her core (The Legend of Korra: Art of the Animated Series - Book 3: Change)

Ming Hua's prosthetic water arms are highily versatile tools, much moreso than human ones; she can fashion them as makeshift fingertips, scythes, drills and blades, while flawlessly controlling their temperature and pressure levels, varying as much as their purposes. The foremost use for her arms seems to be active utilisation for everyday tasks, driving and carrying objects, or combat related tasks, maneuverability, offence and defence, as this technique allows for inhuman strength, reach and speed. However, using the arms themselves as direct substitutes is not unheard of.

Katara executing the octopus form against the Dai Li (The Last Airbender: Book 2,
Katara executing the octopus form against the Dai Li (The Last Airbender: Book 2, "The Crossroads of Destiny"), Ming Hua executing the octopus form in her duel with Kya (The Legend of Korra: Book 3, "The Ultimatum")

The most intriguing concept of this bending style is Ming Hua's implementation of the philosophy of Tai Chi into it, reflected the most in her duel against Kya, whose performance highlights the stylistic advantage of Ming Hua's against traditional waterbenders; absorbing the water sourcing from Kya's attack, she executed an advanced variation of the octopus form, a traditional waterbending technique that resembles the octopus, in that the bender surrounds themselves in water tendrils for additional reach and control over the opposition.

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VIII. Bibliography.

  • Nickelodeon.com: Avatar: The Last Airbender.
  • The Last Airbender: Book 1: Water.
  • The Boy in the Iceberg.
  • The Fortuneteller.
  • The Waterbending Master.
  • The Siege of the North I.
  • The Siege of the North II.
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender: Creating the Legend I: Waterbending.
  • The Lost Scrolls: Water.
  • The Last Airbender: Book 2: Earth.
  • The Swamp.
  • The Blind Bandit.
  • Bitter Work.
  • The Library.
  • Journey to Ba Sing Se I: The Serpent's Pass.
  • The Earth King.
  • The Crossroads of Destiny.
  • The Last Airbender: Book 3: Fire.
  • The Puppetmaster.
  • Day of Black Sun I: The Invasion.
  • Day of Black Sun II: The Eclipse.
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender: Art of the Animated Series.
  • The Legend of Korra: Book 1: Air.
  • The Revelation.
  • Out of the Past.
  • Skeletons in the Closet.
  • Endgame.
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender: The Search II.
  • The Legend of Korra: Book 2: Spirits.
  • Rebel Spirit.
  • Civil Wars II.
  • Beginnings I.
  • Beginnings II.
  • The Guide.
  • A New Spiritual Age.
  • Harmonic Convergence.
  • Darkness Falls.
  • Beginnings I (Premise).
  • The Legend of Korra: Book 3: Change.
  • Rebirth.
  • In Harm's Way.
  • The Metal Clan.
  • The Terror Within.
  • The Stakeout.
  • The Ultimatum.
  • The Legend of Korra: Book 4: Balance.
  • The Last Stand.
  • The Legend of Korra: Art of the Animated Series - Book 2: Spirits.
  • The Legend of Korra: Art of the Animated Series - Book 3: Change.
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender: Legacy.
  • The Rise of Kyoshi.
  • The Shadow of Kyoshi.

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This is amazing! I love how waterbending is such a versatile bendable. It's one of the reasons why it's my favourite. Even when waterbenders are taken out of their element, they can learn to adapt and still be a formidable opponent. It has also always been the most exciting one for me to watch from the shows. It's creative and you're never sure what they will do with it.

I knew that the North and South differed in styles but I never thought about the reasons of why behind it, and you gave a really good analysis about that. It's interesting how through Katara's journey she found Pakku, Huu and Hama, three masters of the three different waterbending styles. Her being a mix is pretty unique.

Do you think with Ming-Hua taking a more aggressive, unorthodox approach to waterbending she would be from the Southern Pole? I don't think we were told where she was originally was from.

I'm not an English expert but everything seemed fine btw, awesome work. 🌊

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I am looking forward to the next one, definitely tag me please!

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Tag me for future posts in this series.

How would you classify Unalaq and Tonraq? Both of them are originally from the NWT, but they're also very much direct and aggressive benders, unlike Pakku.

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Very well written

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This was an amazing read. Very informative and very well-written!

Also, water is the best element.

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I meme'd in my last post but it really is long. I got through a good chunk of it, and while I'm not particularly a fan of Avatar (not that I dislike it, I just never watched it; I do think it's kool, just cba to get into it), it was a good read. Will definitely come back and finish. Pls tag for next ones.

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@anthp2000:

Just went through the whole thread, must say the detailed analysis is absolutely brilliant. Got to know so much about the differences between the northern and the southern tribes. I'll honestly admit, water has been my least favorite element of the four, but this was such an intriguing read on the element and raised my interest towards the element. Also, please tag in the next posts, I'm waiting for your posts on fire, earth and especially air.

This could be a lame doubt that was in my mind for a long time, I wasn't always clear about how Amon used blood-bending to block someone's chi and remove their bending, your detail on that cleared the air on that issue. So, if my understanding is right on it, what Amon does is the opposite of what the healers did in the gif you posted right above it. Does Noatok basically sever the nerves/chi path in a bender's body and makes them unable to bend?

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I haven't read this yet but it looks detailed, nice. Will check it out later.

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Really nice. You obviously put a lot of work into this and it definitely comes through. Future tag please!

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@arcus1: @geekryan: @vengefulshot: @freestyler1999:@supremegeneration: @emmafrostxmen: @saftysign2017: Thank you guys, water has always been my favorite element of the four, and they expanded it equally as much in the Legend of Korra as the did in the original series. There's so many different and beautiful aspects about it - and it is the most visually pleasing element for me. To Supreme: hopefully these breakdowns will inspire you enough to actually watch the show too.

@chloros said:

I knew that the North and South differed in styles but I never thought about the reasons of why behind it, and you gave a really good analysis about that. It's interesting how through Katara's journey she found Pakku, Huu and Hama, three masters of the three different waterbending styles. Her being a mix is pretty unique.

Do you think with Ming-Hua taking a more aggressive, unorthodox approach to waterbending she would be from the Southern Pole? I don't think we were told where she was originally was from.

I agree. I think they might have thought it through as well, always planning for Katara to be the most "complete" waterbender in history. I love that even in the comic books you can see her utilising techniques she picked up from all three of them.

As for Ming Hua, you know, I think she might have roots from there. I mean, her waterbending definitely does. But with Ming Hua's origin, a whole lot of other issues appear: how much has the southern style survived throughout the years, considering Pakku moved to the South Pole as of North and South and helped rebuild it and train waterbenders, with an official academy no less. How many scrolls are there left for each style? How did Ming Hua come up with this technique in the first place? She could very well have roots from the Foggy Swamp, in my opinion - it would be fitting to develop this skill in such an environment, and her skin color (if it can be used as any indication) seems akin to theirs. Personally, I think she might be of mixed heritage. With the United Republic's rise in between those 70 years, it would make sense. Now, her style? I definitely think it's leaning more towards the South if we were to classify it.

All this talk just reminded me of how much I'd be interested in the origin story of the Red Lotus as a whole.

@mialthefencer said:

How would you classify Unalaq and Tonraq? Both of them are originally from the NWT, but they're also very much direct and aggressive benders, unlike Pakku.

I apologise for the length of this in advance, but really, opening discussions like this is what I mostly wanted.

Tonraq is a questionable one. He is one of those benders in Korra's era who seems to be using kind of his own style. A modern style, but not one that follows the philosophy of the element. Tonraq never 'goes with the flow'. He seems proficient in a few high level techniques, but at the end of the day prefers brute force, solely, which is actually the opposite of what you'd expect form a waterbender. He is always the aggressor, he will make the first move in a fight no matter the opponent, and his movements are pretty straightforward, a little too much. In that they resemble kickboxing or basic hand motions at times. This is why I'm hesitant to call him a "master" - even if he would be, by the standards of the shows - and why I didn't use him as a point of reference anywhere. I really find it impossible to classify him. I'd definitely be interested in your opinion of him, though.

Unalaq is an interesting case, on the other hand. He is obviously classically trained. One thing to consider before going further is that we cannot be sure how waterbending evolved since the time of TLA. The most up-to-date information we have is that Pakku took over the training of the new waterbenders for a time (which probably influenced another generation of waterbending masters and spread the Northern style in a dominant manner). Basically, everything after Katara's time is increasingly ambiguous, which is why I relied on Pakku and Hama as well as the two Tribes' benders from the flashbacks and Book 1 to distinguish between the styles. Katara and Kya's own style acts like a supporting ingredient in all this as well, but the waterbenders 70 years after (with the exception of Kya) should be evaluated with all this as a bar.

Now, I personally think Unalaq is leaning more towards the Northern style, but with influences either from modern style waterbending or his own immoral character and everything related to it. Even though it's a bit tricky to draw conclusions based on his waterbending exchanges with Tonraq - refer to the first paragraph - and Korra - whose waterbending has hints both from the traditional polar styles and the modern pro-bending/Tonraq-ish/whatever style - I think it shows in the way he is choreographed in general. And he is consistently executing techniques that are clear result of refined skill, honed practices and specific movesets. Even his icebending shaped in specific ways.

The ice pillar he raised to fend off Tonraq and the flash freezing him at the end are both shaped in a similar, complex manner. And one other thing to note is the way he deconstructs the ice around the field, he doesn't just turn it into water or shatter it, he is separating it to sliced pieces. (The Legend of Korra: Book 2,
The ice pillar he raised to fend off Tonraq and the flash freezing him at the end are both shaped in a similar, complex manner. And one other thing to note is the way he deconstructs the ice around the field, he doesn't just turn it into water or shatter it, he is separating it to sliced pieces. (The Legend of Korra: Book 2, "Night of a Thousand Stars")

The only times he's bending ice in more "free" ways is when he simply has to put an ice wall up for defence. His techniques look very inflexible compared to some of, say, Katara's, or what we saw Hama and the southern waterbenders do. This is not something I mentioned in the entry, but it is a theory worth noting that the more sophisticated architecture of the Norther Tribe as opposed to that of the Southern Tribe could also reflect on each style's icebending. This is just looking at the nameless soldiers and the way they fought off the Fire Nation. The northern waterbenders were using specifically shaped icebending, as opposed to the unrefined flash freezes of the south.

Regarding his aggressiveness, I think it's important to note that when a waterbender is fighting other types of benders, they are bound to be more direct. The philosophy of each element is always there, but the bender will be forced to apply that philosophy differently from setting to setting. Tai Chi is important, but so is fighting fire with fire sometimes. That's why it's easier to distinguish between the styles of each element when it's two benders of the same one fighting.

With that in mind, I agree with you that Unalaq is more aggressive than, say, Pakku. But I think his aggressiveness should be attributed more to the context of his fights, rather than the actual nature of his bending; every time we saw him fight, he was put under serious pressure. He was restricted to a water skin in an enclosed space against the Avatar and her friends, he was supposed to fight a waterbender who, instead of fighting like a traditional waterbender would in a duel, approached the fight physically and attempted to take it up close and personal, he was fighting Mako and Bolin for the sake of becoming the Dark Avatar, which could only be done under specific circumstances, and he had to be aggressive to a degree if he were to match Korra's raw power. But even with all this, I dare call it necessary, aggressiveness, the indirect nature of his bending remained: he constatly attacked Tonraq with environmental icebending until he came too close, and more than anything, I want to focus on this sequence:

He forms a water arm that collides with Korra's ice barrier head on. Normally this would be a clear cut sign of a southerner's waterbending, but he immediately overwhelms her by surrounding the tendrills and incapacitating her. Then, when he has her on the ground, instead of just smashing her right there, he goes for burying her under the permafrost. (The Legend of Korra: Book 2,
He forms a water arm that collides with Korra's ice barrier head on. Normally this would be a clear cut sign of a southerner's waterbending, but he immediately overwhelms her by surrounding the tendrills and incapacitating her. Then, when he has her on the ground, instead of just smashing her right there, he goes for burying her under the permafrost. (The Legend of Korra: Book 2, "Darkness Falls")

And this is the one time thoughout the fight that he had a clear cut upper hand on Korra too. Not the times he tried to overpower her directly. It is obviously far more aggressive than what we saw Pakku doing, but Pakku is also not a bloodlusted dark spirit guy. And that's a point I want to make: if Pakku were trying to kill Katara in the duel I used an example, he would look like that too, and he would probably go for actual lethal techniques like Unalaq did, but lethality and offence is not exclusive to either style. What's important is the way they go for lethality or offence. And while Unalaq can be direct (like he was, twice against Korra and throughout his fight with the brothers), which is why I think he's not a pure result of traditional, northern training, I think more emphasis is put on everything else.

Tldr, with Unalaq:

  • His execution of techniques seems to be a product of very specific, organised, honed forms.
  • When it is called for, he prefers an indirect approach to a direct one - the only pure waterbending duel of his showcased that very well, but I think it can also be seen in his fights with other benders sometimes.
  • He tents to be more aggressive, and I'd be hesitant to call him pure northern style like I would Pakku, esspecially given the presumed influence and evolution of the bending arts between TLA and TLoK (what I prefer to call modern bending), but he is also very indirect compared to what you'd expect from a southerner - none of his defences are ever meant to be purely defensive, unless they get destroyed in the process, he is going to use them for offence as well.
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@anthp2000:

This could be a lame doubt that was in my mind for a long time, I wasn't always clear about how Amon used blood-bending to block someone's chi and remove their bending, your detail on that cleared the air on that issue. So, if my understanding is right on it, what Amon does is the opposite of what the healers did in the gif you posted right above it. Does Noatok basically sever the nerves/chi path in a bender's body and makes them unable to bend?

Yes, that is exactly how I would put it. Noatak's technique is the direct opposite of what healers do:

The Lost Scrolls: Water
The Lost Scrolls: Water

They open chi paths, he is closing them. Chi blocking is enough to close them, but the effects are not permanent. Bloodbending would allow him to mess with the flow of the fluids within a body, while closing the paths, resulting to an everlasting effect. That is the most probable conclusion I can come up with.

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@anthp2000: Wow, that makes sense. Thanks for that source as well, I'll start reading those lost scrolls now during the lockdown. Seems like they've went in detail about everything there. And please tag me in the upcoming posts as well!

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@anthp2000

Thanks for the comprehensive response! I think you hit the nail on the head with regards to Unalaq and how he fits in to the Northern/Southern divide you noted. As for Tonraq, I'm not sure I fully agree with this statement:

his movements are pretty straightforward, a little too much. In that they resemble kickboxing or basic hand motions at times

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He's more straightforward than people like Pakku or his brother, but he's not all straightforward.

You're definitely right that he's more aggressive than other waterbenders and that he relies heavily on brute force, and that he's also using his own style, however I wouldn't conflate Tonraq's style (which is heavily based on ice walls, environmental ice attacks, sharp icebending, ice ramps, and melee combat) with that of other "modern" benders, like Mako, whose styles are based around agility and quick counters. It really does seem unique to just him.

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@anthp2000: I read somewhere that the Red Lotus developed their unique styles from traveling the world and picking up different techniques along the way. (it's in the wiki, at least). I can definitely see her picking up some moves from Foggy Swamp, it''d be a good place for her to develop her water arm swinging (kinda see some similarities between her and Huu-both using their element as an extension of themselves in more of a h2h style, so to speak)

Regarding Tonraq, I think his style comes from his background as a soldier. While he wasn't classically trained to be a master like Unalaq, he's got a lot of combat experience informing his style. I always thought it was interesting that he seemed to favor ice bending more than a lot of other waterbenders, giving him more of an earthbender vibe (in the poles, at least)

I'll also say that Pakku definitely does use direct attacks when necessary. We just didn't see him be pressed by an opponent like Korra

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As an overall trend, the south's focus on resourcefulness and aggression (necessary for survival) compared to the more "refined" north is definitely valid, don't get me wrong. But it's a trend, not a complete distinction

It would've been interesting to have seen more from Pakku and Hama for comparison between their respective styles. Also could've been interesting to see more of the southern water tribe pre-invasion (from what Hama was telling Katara, it would seem that southern water tribe folk extended past the south pole (into areas where there wasn't an abundance of snow and ice-hence the need to learn to draw on other sources of water)

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@anthp2000: Bro I want a red lotus animated series more than anything tbh. I love how deadly and cool all of their designs are.

I just want to see their origin and their earlier days as a group and their eventual capture

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@mialthefencer said:

@anthp2000

He's more straightforward than people like Pakku or his brother, but he's not all straightforward.

You're definitely right that he's more aggressive than other waterbenders and that he relies heavily on brute force, and that he's also using his own style, however I wouldn't conflate Tonraq's style (which is heavily based on ice walls, environmental ice attacks, sharp icebending, ice ramps, and melee combat) with that of other "modern" benders, like Mako, whose styles are based around agility and quick counters. It really does seem unique to just him.

I should mention that I consider every non-traditional bending style we've seen modern - even though they are different. Eska and Desna's waterbending is about as cut off from the philosophy of the element as Tonraq's, but they are not comparable in any way, because they base their style around what you just described as Mako's - who's heavily influenced by pro-bending, while Tonraq is very much soldier-y (I agree with @arcus1 that his warrior-like nature is a key aspect of his bending), brutal, grounded.

Looking at your gif, I do have to say I had never noticed his movements aboard the ice ramps before. They definitely resemble that "flow" in a way. I'm still not confident on putting a label on his waterbending as far as the three styles go, much like I wouldn't be able to with Eska or Desna.

@arcus1 said:

@anthp2000: I read somewhere that the Red Lotus developed their unique styles from traveling the world and picking up different techniques along the way. (it's in the wiki, at least). I can definitely see her picking up some moves from Foggy Swamp, it''d be a good place for her to develop her water arm swinging (kinda see some similarities between her and Huu-both using their element as an extension of themselves in more of a h2h style, so to speak)

I'll also say that Pakku definitely does use direct attacks when necessary. We just didn't see him be pressed by an opponent like Korra. As an overall trend, the south's focus on resourcefulness and aggression (necessary for survival) compared to the more "refined" north is definitely valid, don't get me wrong. But it's a trend, not a complete distinction

It would've been interesting to have seen more from Pakku and Hama for comparison between their respective styles. Also could've been interesting to see more of the southern water tribe pre-invasion (from what Hama was telling Katara, it would seem that southern water tribe folk extended past the south pole (into areas where there wasn't an abundance of snow and ice-hence the need to learn to draw on other sources of water)

I think the actual statement - which is from the Art of the Animated Series book - is referring to them picking up more skills as they travelled around the globe.

The Legend of Korra: Art of the Animated Series - Book 3: Change
The Legend of Korra: Art of the Animated Series - Book 3: Change

So in a way, Ming Hua likely honed her technique travelling around the world, but it definitely seems to root back to an early age. I agree with you on that, like I told Chloros, it's very likely she has either trained in or studied, if not ouright grown up in the Foggy Swamp. Her name also points more towards the Earth Kingdom than the Poles, I think.

Again, agreed. That's why the differences appear so subtle, and why a blend of the styles can be as effective. Regarding the particular instance with Pakku, I would say that a fighting style can differ heavily when a bender is fighting mooks and when they're fighting another named bender. But I understand what you mean, the waterbending from the Poles is much more similar than different:

The Last Airbender: North and South III
The Last Airbender: North and South III

Siku and Sura, the first benders born in the Southern Tribe after Katara, did this without any formal training from Master Pakku. That is right after Katara told them that they should carry on the southern waterbending tradition. And I would say this is pretty refined icebending.

It really is a shame that we didn't get more flashbacks or history lessons regarding the Southerners. We have very little to go on right now, but I still find it interesting that, unlike the other Nations, they are divided into groups with explicitly categorised bending styles, and that those reflect on their history as a people. If only we knew the 3,000 things Wan Shi Tong does. Or well, 3 of them in this case.

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@anthp2000: OMG this must have taken forever, tag.

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Nice one, had an amazing read.

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@chloros said:

I knew that the North and South differed in styles but I never thought about the reasons of why behind it, and you gave a really good analysis about that. It's interesting how through Katara's journey she found Pakku, Huu and Hama, three masters of the three different waterbending styles. Her being a mix is pretty unique.

Do you think with Ming-Hua taking a more aggressive, unorthodox approach to waterbending she would be from the Southern Pole? I don't think we were told where she was originally was from.

I agree. I think they might have thought it through as well, always planning for Katara to be the most "complete" waterbender in history. I love that even in the comic books you can see her utilising techniques she picked up from all three of them.

As for Ming Hua, you know, I think she might have roots from there. I mean, her waterbending definitely does. But with Ming Hua's origin, a whole lot of other issues appear: how much has the southern style survived throughout the years, considering Pakku moved to the South Pole as of North and South and helped rebuild it and train waterbenders, with an official academy no less. How many scrolls are there left for each style? How did Ming Hua come up with this technique in the first place? She could very well have roots from the Foggy Swamp, in my opinion - it would be fitting to develop this skill in such an environment, and her skin color (if it can be used as any indication) seems akin to theirs. Personally, I think she might be of mixed heritage. With the United Republic's rise in between those 70 years, it would make sense. Now, her style? I definitely think it's leaning more towards the South if we were to classify it.

All this talk just reminded me of how much I'd be interested in the origin story of the Red Lotus as a whole.

As for bending the comics have definitely showcased Katara's different styles well. More plantbending would be great to see imo.

You know, I never even considered her being from the Foggy Swamp Tribe, but I can actually see her being a mix for sure! Her name does not sound very Water Tribe-ish, and I agree with the appearance. Many Foggy Swamp Tribe members have lines/darker complexions under their eyes, like Ming-Hua. But she was also locked away for 13 years, so that's got to have an effect on her look lol. How cool would it have been to see her bending with vine arms though? If that's a possibility...Or making her own version of Huu's swamp monster design.

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@anthp2000: Bro I want a red lotus animated series more than anything tbh. I love how deadly and cool all of their designs are.

I just want to see their origin and their earlier days as a group and their eventual capture

This is the one avatar comic that I actually want. Of course, if it came out I'd probably complain that it didn't live up to my expectations, but I can dream.

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@mialthefencer: since it’s a comic especially they can continue to be brutal and deadly , but personally I want them to be animated again.

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Wow this is amazing.

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@anthp2000

Fantastic Read great mix of history and review of probably the most interesting element.

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@chloros: I think Ming Hua actually translates to a blossoming flower. This could be totally random given it's a rather common chinese name, but it does kind of remind me of her entering the octopus form.

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@anthp2000: Well, actually. Ming Hua translates to "Famous painting" to Chinese. But I just don't see any significance with her name. Could it be because of her arm design?

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#32 anthp2000  Moderator

@thekeys: I think the name itself has a different meaning than the actual words used in general. But I could be wrong.

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This is absolutely amazing. Tag for the next one, please.

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This is absolutely amazing. Tag for the next one, please.

Welcome back!

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@vengefulshot: Thanks man. Interesting how you say that the moment after I change my avatar to The Great Uniter though :p

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@matbezlima: Here's the earthbending one: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/elemental-arts-discussion-earthbending-2084055/

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@anthp2000: Thanks! Will you do waterbending and airbending?

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@anthp2000: Thanks! Will you do waterbending and airbending?

Firebending, you mean, and airbending. Yes. Fire is next.

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