Does MCU Spider-Man hit harder than Homelander?

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Confirmed now or no

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Bucky might hit harder too Lmao

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I feel like the visuals didn’t demonstrate the power levels. Homelander casually tossed a man hundreds of feet up and away in the 1st episode

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@ajak_xiv: the average man only weighs something like 197 pounds

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@pandalumina: he did it casually in the opening scene, he also said he was strong enough to lift a plane he jus had nothing to stand on which is a couple hundred tons. He also scales above people like a train and blue hawk who displayed Dceu Wonder Woman levels of striking(visually). He might not hit as hard as Spider-Man(debatable) but people saying he hits softer than super soldiers are just lowballing extremely.

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No. Soldier Boy’s slightly weaker than Homelander who could tank that massive power plant explosion, and Homelander was hurting him just fine. His AP should be multi cityblock level.

Ofc lowballing with visuals they’re both wall level

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@kryptonianking88: Were they really hurting each other tho? I mean, even bullets and fire make him scream in pain, but don't cause any real harm to him.

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Given how terrified Maeve is of him, he should be capable of harming her, and she took this unscathed in episode 1

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#14  Edited By SpiderMe

The Boys isn't going to have Man of Steel fights because it isn't that kind of show and they don't have that kind of budget. This happens a lot. It even happened in Infinity War- Hulk vs. Thanos looked about the same as the Homelander fight. That doesn't mean the characters are weak, you just have to look at scaling and intent rather than how much damage their fight caused.

With that in mind, obviously Homelander hits harder.

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#15  Edited By Reyne-TheAbyss

@joker567892: I believe they're referring to the explosion Homelander cause on his first mission (Diabolical Ep8).

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Yes; his bullrushes are stronger (seen in Diabolical), but actually punching power is in Spidey's field.

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feats comparing so far..

spidey;s punch "look" stronger tbh.

HL's bullrush was tanked by a wall

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@ajak_xiv: Spiderman did the same… but with Cars and larger objects

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@j_normal: no he didn’t lol. He pulled a car downwards that cull obsidian threw with moderately displayed effort and he pulled a car up with his webs he didn’t casually grab a car and toss it hundreds of feet up and away with one hand.

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#20  Edited By thanosii

@fortytwozero: Luke Cage did exactly the same and he is below Spiderman

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@ajak_xiv:

Dude he completely stopped the momentum of the through and redirected it. Not to mention swung it around. That is much more impressive than launching a 180 pound human into the air

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#22  Edited By Ajak_XIV

@j_normal: I like how you made it sound impressive then lowballed homelander a feat. He tossed a human in the air for 7 seconds just by raising his hand. Spideys feat might be more impressive but he strained much more than homelander did in doing so.

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#23  Edited By J_Normal

@ajak_xiv:

Parker was literally holding a conversation as he did it

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@j_normal: I’m not saying he used max effort I’m just saying he showed than he was using more than homelander.

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If homelander really has sub wall level punches then yeah. They're equal in striking power.

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@spiderme said:

The Boys isn't going to have Man of Steel fights because it isn't that kind of show and they don't have that kind of budget. This happens a lot. It even happened in Infinity War- Hulk vs. Thanos looked about the same as the Homelander fight. That doesn't mean the characters are weak, you just have to look at scaling and intent rather than how much damage their fight caused.

With that in mind, obviously Homelander hits harder.

How about the popular scaling - Spider-Man catching the blow of a dude who ripped Hulkbuster's arm off?

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@titansgo said:

If homelander really has sub wall level punches then yeah. They're equal in striking power.

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@spiderme said:

The Boys isn't going to have Man of Steel fights because it isn't that kind of show and they don't have that kind of budget. This happens a lot. It even happened in Infinity War- Hulk vs. Thanos looked about the same as the Homelander fight. That doesn't mean the characters are weak, you just have to look at scaling and intent rather than how much damage their fight caused.

With that in mind, obviously Homelander hits harder.

How about the popular scaling - Spider-Man catching the blow of a dude who ripped Hulkbuster's arm off?

Objectively an outlier or would just downgrade Cull to wall level

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And Mjolnir is sub-ground level too

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#30  Edited By killbilly  Moderator

@fortytwozero: Not only that. Maeve says she's been sober and training these last 6 months in order to be able to buy Starlight and The Boys "a few seconds" against Homelander.

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Homelander is obviously stronger. They just don’t have that kind of budget to showcase it, lol. By in universe logic he can lift a plane rather easily but it would go right through him. He threw a ball with a casual flick of his wrist and it apparently was thrown far enough to clear entire states.

Intent > visual.

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And Mjolnir is sub-ground level too

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feat for the dirt tbh

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Hulk had his running punch matched by something with street lamp level physicals.

Iron Man can only lift up to 3 tons in one of his strongest standard suits
Iron Man can only lift up to 3 tons in one of his strongest standard suits
MCU Thor boxing evenly with a fodder soldier
MCU Thor boxing evenly with a fodder soldier

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@spiderme said:

The Boys isn't going to have Man of Steel fights because it isn't that kind of show and they don't have that kind of budget. This happens a lot. It even happened in Infinity War- Hulk vs. Thanos looked about the same as the Homelander fight. That doesn't mean the characters are weak, you just have to look at scaling and intent rather than how much damage their fight caused.

With that in mind, obviously Homelander hits harder.

How about the popular scaling - Spider-Man catching the blow of a dude who ripped Hulkbuster's arm off?

I mean what are you even suggesting, than Spider-Man is Hulk/Thor tier? That's obviously wrong given everything else we've seen, so to me that's clearly just wonky scaling between Spidey and Cull.

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@spiderme said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@spiderme said:

The Boys isn't going to have Man of Steel fights because it isn't that kind of show and they don't have that kind of budget. This happens a lot. It even happened in Infinity War- Hulk vs. Thanos looked about the same as the Homelander fight. That doesn't mean the characters are weak, you just have to look at scaling and intent rather than how much damage their fight caused.

With that in mind, obviously Homelander hits harder.

How about the popular scaling - Spider-Man catching the blow of a dude who ripped Hulkbuster's arm off?

I mean what are you even suggesting, than Spider-Man is Hulk/Thor tier? That's obviously wrong given everything else we've seen, so to me that's clearly just wonky scaling between Spidey and Cull.

Hulk/Thanos/Cull<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Train

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#37  Edited By RajjarsAlt
@spiderme said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@spiderme said:

The Boys isn't going to have Man of Steel fights because it isn't that kind of show and they don't have that kind of budget. This happens a lot. It even happened in Infinity War- Hulk vs. Thanos looked about the same as the Homelander fight. That doesn't mean the characters are weak, you just have to look at scaling and intent rather than how much damage their fight caused.

With that in mind, obviously Homelander hits harder.

How about the popular scaling - Spider-Man catching the blow of a dude who ripped Hulkbuster's arm off?

I mean what are you even suggesting, than Spider-Man is Hulk/Thor tier? That's obviously wrong given everything else we've seen, so to me that's clearly just wonky scaling between Spidey and Cull.

I don't think guys like Cull and Hulkbuster are on Thor or Hulk's level, but why would it be any better or worse than scaling Homelander to...who and what exactly?

TB scaling seems vague and wonky, which is hardly the case between Spider-Man and Cull, as Cull never got enough scaling over Spidey to override the majority of scalings Spider-Man got over Cull (catching his blow, webslinging an object he threw back at him, stopping his stab on Iron Man).

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#38  Edited By RajjarsAlt
@power_hunter said:

Hulk/Thanos/Cull<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Train

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And train should still be >>>>>>>>>>> wall

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#40  Edited By Lilbroomstick

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i live and breath for these petty downplays lmfao
i live and breath for these petty downplays lmfao

Have more friend 😊

Two Iron Men struggle to lift a damaged dumbell
Two Iron Men struggle to lift a damaged dumbell
A kick from Thor dazes Hulk and nearly knocks him unconscious
A kick from Thor dazes Hulk and nearly knocks him unconscious
Captain America effortlessly blocks and overpowers bloodlusted Thor's assault
Captain America effortlessly blocks and overpowers bloodlusted Thor's assault
Captain America ready with shield can't stop Iron Man bullrush
Captain America ready with shield can't stop Iron Man bullrush

For reference:

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Thor was outperformed by a non-combatant armor which would scale under the 3 tonner armor I mentioned prior. Same Thor was still stronger than Loki and could give the Hulk trouble.

Same Iron Man gets stomped by Captain America and struggles greatly to retaliate
Same Iron Man gets stomped by Captain America and struggles greatly to retaliate
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Thanos gets easily overpowered by Captain America despite having the Infinity gauntlet and flicking dirt in his eye
Thanos gets easily overpowered by Captain America despite having the Infinity gauntlet and flicking dirt in his eye
Serious Thanos barely cuts a log
Serious Thanos barely cuts a log
Thanos shows immense effort while lifting below 2,000 pound Hulk
Thanos shows immense effort while lifting below 2,000 pound Hulk
Thanos isn't strong enough to stop Iron Man's featless attacks that can't even dent rocks, yet can make Thanos grunt in pain
Thanos isn't strong enough to stop Iron Man's featless attacks that can't even dent rocks, yet can make Thanos grunt in pain
Thanos gets ragdolled by a lightning attack from Thor and easily overpowered by him
Thanos gets ragdolled by a lightning attack from Thor and easily overpowered by him
For reference Iron Man no-sells a better version of the same lightning attack
For reference Iron Man no-sells a better version of the same lightning attack
Same Thanos easily overpowers Hulk and it hurts him so bad Hulk's eyes start to water
Same Thanos easily overpowers Hulk and it hurts him so bad Hulk's eyes start to water
Hulk roars from putting so much effort into trying to break a chain
Hulk roars from putting so much effort into trying to break a chain
Captain America who can scale to all of them, gets helplessly ragdolled by a slow truck
Captain America who can scale to all of them, gets helplessly ragdolled by a slow truck

In conclusion, Spider-Man scaling to Hulk doesn't do him any favors either way.

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@lilbroomstick said:

Objectively an outlier or would just downgrade Cull to wall level

I'll agree with downgrading Cull, but it's morbin' time!

MCU Spider-Man is not fodder to Cull Obsidian

The only thing truly good for Spider-Man is no-selling the portals.

You speak as if the Iron Man scaling is impressive. Apparently not so much considering he failed to put down Cull for an extended period of time despite having Iron Man's help. Same Cull who is only Hulk level or slightly above at best.

In this case, the stuff I posted for Hulk, Iron Man, and Thor can also be applied to Peter. There I win 😊 cause this means Homelander and Spidey ultimately scale to similar strength

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#42  Edited By Power_Hunter
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@power_hunter said:

Hulk/Thanos/Cull<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Train

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And train should still be >>>>>>>>>>> wall

It's Wall level I did the calc I can show you if you want. You have to consider that Spider-Man is very light so the energy he is absorbing is minimum. If he absorbed any significant energy the train would either be damaged or stopped, and it wasn't affected at all.

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#43  Edited By Ccbm2208

Visuals and limited collateral are non-literal if basic scalings and the characters’ other Feats contradict them.

Even A-train, Black Noir Queen Maeve could splatter humans, shatter solid concrete walls/Pillars and tear apart trucks without effort, yet they scale way below HL. Plus, in the same episode, we were told that Soldier Boy killed a bunch of people in a residential building and presumably leveled parts of it by throwing a car at the thing.

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