Who is more of a acrobat?
Do you consider Batman and Wolverine as acrobats?
Wolverine..he also has Ninja training.I haven't seen Batman do anything acrobatically that Wolverine couldn't, also considering his small stature and peak human agility.
I think Batman has a solid edge in agility.
Partly based on his crimefighting habits. He spends quite a lot of time on the rooftops of Gotham jumping from building to building. I also think his skeletal structure would also give him an advantage since its much lighter than Logan's. I tend to think Wolverine is more of a ground based fighter.
Dick Grayson is naturally an acrobat and definitely better than Wolverine. Bruce I wouldn't consider an acrobat. He more agile than normal humans but I think Wolverine is more agile than Bruce.
" @Vance Astro: Partly based on his crimefighting habits. He spends quite a lot of time on the rooftops of Gotham jumping from building to building. I also think his skeletal structure would also give him an advantage since its much lighter than Logan's. I tend to think Wolverine is more of a ground based fighter. "Seeing as how Logan has been said to move faster than the human eye can follow..his skeleton is obviously not a problem.....
@ArtJoker said:
" I think having an adamantium skeleton may prove to be a disadvantage when it comes to acrobatic feats "See Above.
In terms of speed I'd say Wolverine is faster. As far as agility (jumping from building to building,etc) I'd give the edge to Bruce.
" @Vance Astro: In terms of speed I'd say Wolverine is faster. As far as agility (jumping from building to building,etc) I'd give the edge to Bruce. "I believe Bruce wears an incredibly heavy armor in his suit. So much so that Dick couldn't fight normally in it.
" I think having an adamantium skeleton may prove to be a disadvantage when it comes to acrobatic feats "Actually his healing factor would work like steroids and the skeleton would obviously be like constant weights at first. He has adapted to the weight of the adamantium and that is what gives him his increased strength speed and agility.
" @ArtJoker said:" I think having an adamantium skeleton may prove to be a disadvantage when it comes to acrobatic feats "Actually his healing factor would work like steroids and the skeleton would obviously be like constant weights at first. He has adapted to the weight of the adamantium and that is what gives him his increased strength speed and agility. "
Thats one of the best points so far. The funny thing is I've seen issues where he's swimming and hes actually complained his skeleteon was weighing him down. Then I've seen other issues where he's swimming and doesn't have any problems.
Wolverine may be able to perform acrobatic moves that Batman can not, but Batman certainly utilizes acrobatics on a more consistent basis.
" @Vance Astro: In terms of speed I'd say Wolverine is faster. As far as agility (jumping from building to building,etc) I'd give the edge to Bruce. "They are on the same level of agility.It's not like Bruce is superhuman.You really think Wolverine can't jump from Building to building? The Punisher can do that and he's not even an acrobat.
" @Jake Fury said:" @Vance Astro: In terms of speed I'd say Wolverine is faster. As far as agility (jumping from building to building,etc) I'd give the edge to Bruce. "They are on the same level of agility.It's not like Bruce is superhuman.You really think Wolverine can't jump from Building to building? The Punisher can do that and he's not even an acrobat. "
Of course he can. I'd just say that Bruce does it more often and would be a little better since he's usually confined to that kind of environment.
" @Vance Astro said:Bruce does it more often but more times than not I would vote that they are equal.People see Batman as more of an acrobat because of the way he patrols the city and where he does it from but Batman isn't really that great of an acrobat and neither is Wolverine.They aren't Nightwing,Daredevil,Spider-Man level.So neither is really a superb acrobat." @Jake Fury said:Of course he can. I'd just say that Bruce does it more often and would be a little better since he's usually confined to that kind of environment. "" @Vance Astro: In terms of speed I'd say Wolverine is faster. As far as agility (jumping from building to building,etc) I'd give the edge to Bruce. "They are on the same level of agility.It's not like Bruce is superhuman.You really think Wolverine can't jump from Building to building? The Punisher can do that and he's not even an acrobat. "
" @Jake Fury said:" @Vance Astro said:Bruce does it more often but more times than not I would vote that they are equal.People see Batman as more of an acrobat because of the way he patrols the city and where he does it from but Batman isn't really that great of an acrobat and neither is Wolverine.They aren't Nightwing,Daredevil,Spider-Man level.So neither is really a superb acrobat. "" @Jake Fury said:Of course he can. I'd just say that Bruce does it more often and would be a little better since he's usually confined to that kind of environment. "" @Vance Astro: In terms of speed I'd say Wolverine is faster. As far as agility (jumping from building to building,etc) I'd give the edge to Bruce. "They are on the same level of agility.It's not like Bruce is superhuman.You really think Wolverine can't jump from Building to building? The Punisher can do that and he's not even an acrobat. "
@Vance Astro: I'm in complete agreement with you on that. DD vs Nightwing in an agility battle would be excellent. Who would you give the edge to in that one? Do you think it'd be worthy of a thread/poll?
@Vance Astro: I'm in complete agreement with you on that. DD vs Nightwing in an agility battle would be excellent. Who would you give the edge to in that one? Do you think it'd be worthy of a thread/poll? "I don't really know.You would think Grayson would be the better because of his background as a circus acrobat but DD has some absolutely ridiculous agility feats.
" @Jake Fury said:@Vance Astro: I'm in complete agreement with you on that. DD vs Nightwing in an agility battle would be excellent. Who would you give the edge to in that one? Do you think it'd be worthy of a thread/poll? "I don't really know.You would think Grayson would be the better because of his background as a circus acrobat but DD has some absolutely ridiculous agility feats. "
Definitely. He may not be officially "superhuman" but he's pushing the limits of peak human.
Just to clarify, Agility is a stat while Acrobatics are a skill. They are different things completely, but do rely on the other. Just because some is a better Acrobat, doesn't neccessarily mean they are more Agile (Comparing Nightwing and Wolverine for example.) and Vice Versa. With that being said, I'm not sure about this. I haven't seen Wolverine do much in terms of Acrobatics.
Very interesting, feat wise I would slightly (very slightly) put Batman above but state-wise Wolverine should be higher since his reflexes and agility is considered super-human while Batman's is peak human. Tough call
The question I feel about their acrobatic capability is more "can they?" vs "do they?" . If it's asked:
- Can Wolverine and Batman jump a decent height and length? Answer is yes. More than decent compared to average athletes.
- Can they successfully complete somersaults, backflips or other complex, full-body motions and land on their feet? Hell yes. Both of them. Multiple times.
- Do they both have decent spatial awareness and agility to navigate through irregular environments competently? Hell yeah, that's literally Batman's m.o. with the grappling gun and cape for para-gliding and Wolverine has jumped on and climbed everything his claws could sink into from buildings and mountains to hulks and sentinels.
- Is it energy efficient for them to flip around like chipmunks? Not with their bulky frames and metal skeleton it isn't.
They are both decently acrobatic but it isn't efficient for acrobatics to be part of their main repertoire compared to lighter, more agile, less muscle-bound characters like Spidey, Nightwing, X-23, etc.
Batman's an olymic acrobat, but he doesn't show it as often and it makes sense due to his gigantic frame. I don't know about Wolverine though, I'm sure he's got some acrobatic skills.
@psy4: What about Cap ? The guy is every bit as bulky as they are or even more, but he make use of his agility WAY more often
Cap is as bulky as they are indeed but while Batz is superb for a human, Cap is pretty much superhuman. He's no doubt going to jump higher and run faster. And while he is quite acrobatic himself he's not really a jumpy chipmunk compared to someone like say Spidey. I'd consider him very agile though as you indicated.
I would say they are both acrobats with Batman being more agile, mobile and acrobatic. I think wolverine may not be as acrobatic due to the adamantium skeleton weighing him down all though i'm pretty sure i've seen wolverine do a series of backflips in succession before!
I think they are both acrobatic at times (Batman more so), but I wouldn’t define them as acrobats. Acrobats would be characters like Gambit, Nightwing, Nightcrawler, Daredevil, Spider-Man, guys like that.
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