Do Truth Seeking Balls destroy souls?
Hm....yea
Obito cuts Minato's soul's arm
and then in the last scene when Minato is going back to heaven , his soul's arm is still not there
so yup , the arm of minato's soul was clearly cut off and thus , effected
Hm....yea
Obito cuts Minato's soul's arm
and then in the last scene when Minato is going back to heaven , his soul's arm is still not there
so yup , the arm of minato's soul was clearly cut off and thus , effected
lol at you lying. Anyone who read this chapter knows that not what happened.
Hm....yea
Obito cuts Minato's soul's arm
and then in the last scene when Minato is going back to heaven , his soul's arm is still not there
so yup , the arm of minato's soul was clearly cut off and thus , effected
lol at you lying. Anyone who read this chapter knows that not what happened.
tell me what happened , I am actually intrested .in your headcanonical explainations for once .
Sakura survived.........because she wasn't pierced by one in the first place lol
1) Madara got rid of the Truth Seeking Orb turned staff he was holding inside the Kamui Dimension:
2) Madara comes back with another staff, which the known lowballers assume is a TSB when Madara can make two kinds of black rods, so this one is still unidentifiable.
First time we see said black rod in use shows us that it is indeed not a Truth Seeking Orb, but instead a Black Receiver. A Truth Seeking Orb disintegrates things at a level better than Onoki's/Mu's Dust release which works on a Molecular level. When Sakura first gets pierced by one, none of that disintegrating happens, at all. We see this better with the official colored scans for the Naruto series
1st Scan:
2nd Scan:
3rd Scan:
Manga Scans of these:
Still the same. There literally would be no blood on a TSB cuz everything that touches them gets atomized. And to add the final nail to this dumb coffin, Truth Seeking orbs return to their original ball form and go back to their wielder when they're within the usage range. That black rod(after Naruto drops it) did none of that.
Hooray!
OT: I guess Hakai since it has worked on beings on a completely different level then any Naruto char
Yes, Aryan showed proof above, they also nullify regen powerful enough to regenerate you from being vaped in seconds( Edo) on top of also erasing matter to nothing, one of the best hax in HST for sure.
Inb4" Minato's soul arms went to heaven and waited for him and automatically regenerate onto him" headcanon lol
OT: yes
"Waaaahhh it killed Minato's soul arm (do you know how stupid that sounds) so it must erase souls!"
It is pure and utter headcanon to say they erase souls. I'll happily retract that if anything is stated in the manga that says otherwise.
Waaaahhh it killed Minato's soul arm (do you know how stupid that sounds)
Nobody ever said that so far , but it seems like you are making up words in your head to mock them
so it must erase souls!"
Effecting souls yea but I'd argue they erase it too , Naruto characters can come back from souls being vaporized
but Minato's soul cannot regenerate his arm
It is pure and utter headcanon to say they erase souls.
they can erase space-time by turning kaguya's Dimension to void/nothingness , soul is small fish in comparasion
I'll happily retract that if anything is stated in the manga that says otherwise
so basically " statements > Feats " mentality? Not surprised tbf .
@animefreak1: Almighty still solos though.
Gets negged by me throwing dirt in Yhwach's eyes
@animefreak1: Almighty still solos though.
Gets negged by me throwing dust in Yhwach's eyes
Mind Hax GG
Not sure, Sakura was stabbed by it in the belly and no sold its effects.
oh wait damn..... except it wasn't a Truth Seeker Orb , or you think sakura can survive getting disintegrated on a Sub Atomic scale , its just a Black Reciever .
This thread is going to be a cancer.
It will most likely but I was curious what people think.
@takenstew22 nice pfp btw
@takenstew22 nice pfp btw
Yes
Inb4 they only destroy Ninjutsu despite on panel statements and feats
Hm....yea
Obito cuts Minato's soul's arm
and then in the last scene when Minato is going back to heaven , his soul's arm is still not there
so yup , the arm of minato's soul was clearly cut off and thus , effected
Unless I'm missing something all it did was cancel the edo jutsu on minato arms. As others have said sakura also healed from it.
yup , Cancelling Edo Tensei effected minato's soul somehow and then Sakura ( who can heal from souls as shown by tsunade being able to heal Orochimaru's soul's handa btw ) who survived something which acts Absolutely nothing like TSO , defenitly holds relevance
Sakura survived.........because she wasn't pierced by one in the first place lol
1) Madara got rid of the Truth Seeking Orb turned staff he was holding inside the Kamui Dimension:
2) Madara comes back with another staff, which the known lowballers assume is a TSB when Madara can make two kinds of black rods, so this one is still unidentifiable.
First time we see said black rod in use shows us that it is indeed not a Truth Seeking Orb, but instead a Black Receiver. A Truth Seeking Orb disintegrates things at a level better than Onoki's/Mu's Dust release which works on a Molecular level. When Sakura first gets pierced by one, none of that disintegrating happens, at all. We see this better with the official colored scans for the Naruto series
1st Scan:
2nd Scan:
3rd Scan:
Manga Scans of these:
Still the same. There literally would be no blood on a TSB cuz everything that touches them gets atomized. And to add the final nail to this dumb coffin, Truth Seeking orbs return to their original ball form and go back to their wielder when they're within the usage range. That black rod(after Naruto drops it) did none of that.
Hooray!
OT: I guess Hakai since it has worked on beings on a completely different level then any Naruto char
Assuming Madara didn't return wit his TSO staff which was few steps away from retrieval.
Just bc she wasn't disintegrated, doesn't mean its not TSO. TSO aren't exactly known for consistency:
Rock
Then again it didn't return to Madara... so just maybe. Or is that another inconsistency/genuine author error like Sasuke's summoning hawk not getting IT'd 😉
Assuming Madara didn't return wit his TSO staff which was few steps away from retrieval.
again , he has zero need to it anymore considering how your own scan shows how it Practically became useless as he saw Naruto kick it away in front of him .
adding in the fact that there was blood on the Supposed " Truth Seeker Orb " had blood on it , which logically shouldn't be the case as we already know that it disintegrates on a sub atomic scale atleast .
Just bc she wasn't disintegrated, doesn't mean its not TSO. TSO aren't exactly known for consistency:
The supoosed inconsistancies are very easily to explain really , that's because Truth Seeker Orbs can do Multiple things upto healing
and when doing things other than the normal Erasure stuff , they seem tonlose their previous possibilities , for example during explosion release even Tobirama could practically grab a Truth Seeker Orb
even though Tobirama and other Edos are directky stated to be capable of dying/getting erased by Truth Seeker Orbs .
so the fact that the previous ability of the Truth Seeker Orbs were lost when the Explosion release was the one being used , kinda counters the entire inconsistancy " point " of the Truth Seeker Orbs
sandals
ignoring the fact that Naruto having six path sage mode makes him explicitly immune to Truth Seeker Orbs , How do we know Naruto is using the erasure properties of The Truth seeker orb upon Sasuke .
Then again it didn't return to Madara...so just maybe. Or is that another inconsistency/genuine author error
what is the meaning of the cause when the effect remains the same? the effect in this case being the invalidation of the sakura Contradiction .
like Sasuke's summoning hawk not getting IT'd 😉
two possibilities on that case , even tho I don't Exactly remember the inclident
- The Hawk had rinnegan
- The Hawk has better Telepathy resistance than Naruto and e.t.c.
- Its an inconsistancy
I'll let you make a choice on that.
oh no, why would you made this thread??
I was curious what people think.
again , he has zero need to it anymore considering how your own scan shows how it Practically became useless as he saw Naruto kick it away in front of him .
And still assumptions. If it was so useless, he wouldn't have used it to block Naruto's punch right after the scan of mine your referring to.
adding in the fact that there was blood on the Supposed " Truth Seeker Orb " had blood on it , which logically shouldn't be the case as we already know that it disintegrates on a sub atomic scale atleast .
Tell that to its inconsistent moments.
The supoosed inconsistancies are very easily to explain really , that's because Truth Seeker Orbs can do Multiple things upto healing
How does that change the fact that Madara shot his TSO mid battle to kill Guy & not to heal him? But Minato just happened to act as a shield instead?
and when doing things other than the normal Erasure stuff , they seem tonlose their previous possibilities , for example during explosion release even Tobirama could practically grab a Truth Seeker Orb
Again Madara shot his TSO to erase Guy b4 the aftereffects of the 8th gate did him in. So it was shot to erase, but Naruto's sandal (or Minato's coat) happened to be immune?
even though Tobirama and other Edos are directky stated to be capable of dying/getting erased by Truth Seeker Orbs .
As you've nicely pointed out, TSO lose their erasing properties when transformed into something else like bombs or cages. But Madara didn't transform his. So moot point.
so the fact that the previous ability of the Truth Seeker Orbs were lost when the Explosion release was the one being used , kinda counters the entire inconsistancy " point " of the Truth Seeker Orbs
Sure it does. 😉
ignoring the fact that Naruto having six path sage mode makes him explicitly immune to Truth Seeker Orbs , How do we know Naruto is using the erasure properties of The Truth seeker orb upon Sasuke .
Ignoring he was wearing sandals when he kicked it & not bare feet. Ion kno, how do we know Maddy didn't take his TSO staff back wit him when it was next to him? Don't say blood!!
what is the meaning of the cause when the effect remains the same? the effect in this case being the invalidation of the sakura Contradiction .
Wut?
two possibilities on that case , even tho I don't Exactly remember the inclident
The Hawk had rinnegan
I assure you it didn't.
The Hawk has better Telepathy resistance than Naruto and e.t.c.
Laughable.
Its an inconsistancy
Exactly. Just like the TSO's affects on sandals or coats or TSO not returning to Madara.
I'll let you make a choice on that.
Thank you
It is strongly implied they can, though it is not certain. What is stated is they nullify all ninjutsu, including Edo Tensei.
Yes
Inb4 they only destroy Ninjutsu despite on panel statements and feats
Minato's soul still had no limbs even after the edo tensei jutsu was negated. How do you explain that?
It's shown on panel, no denying it.
Yet people still do, it's less so about fact with people but rather feeling or belief
Facts say it ripped off the soul of minato's arms, But you know ripping off part of a person's soul is impossible so clearly im wrong but sarutobi can just take away the soul of orochimaru's arms yet that's seen as just fine. I guess reaper death seal >> tsb by the fandom's logic
Inb4" Minato's soul arms went to heaven and waited for him and automatically regenerate onto him" headcanon lol
OT: yes
Well, it is not like it was an impossible scenerio.
Imena, Orochimaru also had the "soul" of his arms sealed before and detached from the original body.
"Waaaahhh it killed Minato's soul arm (do you know how stupid that sounds) so it must erase souls!"
It is pure and utter headcanon to say they erase souls. I'll happily retract that if anything is stated in the manga that says otherwise.
How is it stupid for tsb to destroy minato's soul arms when the reaper death seal did the same to orochimaru's soul arm
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