Did Naruto make this crater on the Moon?

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Poll Did Naruto make this crater on the Moon? (56 votes)

Yes he did it after punching Toneri. 55%
No just a random crater 45%
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Can someone move this to Gen discussion?

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No, its Saitama.

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Yeah he clearly did

Moon level Naruto is old news

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That crater looks hundreds of km scaling to the moon.

Naruto's moon punch crater was slightly bigger than Kurama:

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Kurama is comparable to Gamabunta whom is 17m.

So obviously not.

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No other key event that happened to make that crater but naruto so yes

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In every other moon showing, both manga and anime, pre-The Last you can notice that huge crater is not present, meaning it happened after The Last. So everything points out that Naruto did it. However, this shouldn’t be impressive at all basing on the AP that punch carried. It shutted down Toneri's Tenseigan, same power that can revive destroyed planets...same power that can protect Toneri's castle from the collision, and further destruction, of the moon against Naruto Planet. It also scales above Base Toneri passively moving the moon without even having the Tenseigan.

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#8  Edited By TheGuildLove

@molt: Hilarious. What tells you the crater Kurama was is the one created by Naruto's punch? Headcanon? In addition i see you're still with your 17m Kurama fanfiction, since when you were the master photoshopper of this site. Remember when you cropped the picture showing Gamabunta being only as big as 50% Kurama's head? Additionally the size of a Bijuu depends on the amount of its chakra. A 100% Kurama was towering over mountains.

OT: in every other moon showing, both manga and anime, pre-The Last you can notice that huge crater is not present, meaning it happened after The Last. So everything points out that Naruto did it. Thanks to all the new canon infos about the size of Naruto Planet being several times bigger than our planet the crater (and ofc the moon) would also be way bigger than it looks like.

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@molt: Hilarious. What tells you the crater Kurama was is the one created by Naruto's punch? Headcanon? In addition i see you're still with your 17m Kurama fanfiction, since when you were the master photoshopper of this site. Remember when you cropped the picture showing Gamabunta being only as big as 50% Kurama's head? Additionally the size of a Bijuu depends on the amount of its chakra. A 100% Kurama was towering over mountains.

OT: in every other moon showing, both manga and anime, pre-The Last you can notice that huge crater is not present, meaning it happened after The Last. So everything points out that Naruto did it. Thanks to all the new canon infos about the size of Naruto Planet being several times bigger than our planet the crater (and ofc the moon) would also be way bigger than it looks like.

did this nigga really say 17 meters? lmao

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Swear Woody went into hiding to read up on Naruto and came back fruitless lol

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“17 meters Kurama” left me speechless

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This is just how the artist draws the moon.

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Any sort of proof? Other than headcanon? Somebody, anybody?

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@molt: Hilarious. What tells you the crater Kurama was is the one created by Naruto's punch? Headcanon? In addition i see you're still with your 17m Kurama fanfiction, since when you were the master photoshopper of this site. Remember when you cropped the picture showing Gamabunta being only as big as 50% Kurama's head? Additionally the size of a Bijuu depends on the amount of its chakra. A 100% Kurama was towering over mountains.

OT: in every other moon showing, both manga and anime, pre-The Last you can notice that huge crater is not present, meaning it happened after The Last. So everything points out that Naruto did it. Thanks to all the new canon infos about the size of Naruto Planet being several times bigger than our planet the crater (and ofc the moon) would also be way bigger than it looks like.

I see you're still creating alts to this day, Miriotogata/woodwarrior/dirosexo. Ironic how you call my comment headcanon, yet you make up a headcanon fan-theory that it must have been Naruto, despite nowhere stating that it was him. We know what Naruto's punch looked like in size:

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This doesn't look like the size of the crater in OP. You can compare it to the nearby craters. Unless if you think Naruto and Toneri are giants hehe. Don't recall me saying Kurama was 17m. What I said was that he's comparable in size to Gamabunta, which is true as shown here:

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Kurama doesn't appear to be that much bigger than Gamabunta and mind you he's closer to the camera than the toad. You're saying Kurama towers over ''mountains'', right? So, he should be like 20x bigger than Gamabunta who is 17m, yet that's clearly not shown on-screen. Another thing is, if Kurama was so much bigger then Gamabunta like you're implying, then he should have never been pinned him down by his sheer weight, since Gamabunta would be a feather to Kurama, but that's not what happened. Another proof their size is close to each other.

Gamabunta's official height:

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#15  Edited By heiqn

You have all been deceived Naruto was never street tier

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@molt said:
@theguildlove said:

@molt: Hilarious. What tells you the crater Kurama was is the one created by Naruto's punch? Headcanon? In addition i see you're still with your 17m Kurama fanfiction, since when you were the master photoshopper of this site. Remember when you cropped the picture showing Gamabunta being only as big as 50% Kurama's head? Additionally the size of a Bijuu depends on the amount of its chakra. A 100% Kurama was towering over mountains.

OT: in every other moon showing, both manga and anime, pre-The Last you can notice that huge crater is not present, meaning it happened after The Last. So everything points out that Naruto did it. Thanks to all the new canon infos about the size of Naruto Planet being several times bigger than our planet the crater (and ofc the moon) would also be way bigger than it looks like.

I see you're still creating alts to this day, Miriotogata/woodwarrior/dirosexo. Ironic how you call my comment headcanon, yet you make up a headcanon fan-theory that it must have been Naruto, despite nowhere stating that it was him. We know what Naruto's punch looked like in size:

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This doesn't look like the size of the crater in OP. You can compare it to the nearby craters. Unless if you think Naruto and Toneri are giants hehe. Don't recall me saying Kurama was 17m. What I said was that he's comparable in size to Gamabunta, which is true as shown here:

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Kurama doesn't appear to be that much bigger than Gamabunta and mind you he's closer to the camera than the toad. You're saying Kurama towers over ''mountains'', right? So, he should be like 20x bigger than Gamabunta who is 17m, yet that's clearly not shown on-screen. Another thing is, if Kurama was so much bigger then Gamabunta like you're implying, then he should have never been pinned him down by his sheer weight, since Gamabunta would be a feather to Kurama, but that's not what happened. Another proof their size is close to each other.

Gamabunta's official height:

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there is a reason why lightspeed haku is a joke in here. not everything on the GB is taken at face value

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@heiqn: Who thought that? Lol

It’s been fairly clear Naruto is moon+

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Your mom made it.

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@heiqn: Who thought that? Lol

It’s been fairly clear Naruto is moon+

to be more accurate, he's more of a continental tier. in the sense that he can shatter the moon overtime with multiple attacks. but at one go is extremely unlikely

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That aint no random crater lol.

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#21  Edited By Loriazas

@nassergrant19 said:

Yeah he clearly did

Moon level Naruto is old news

@nassergrant19 said:

@heiqn: Who thought that? Lol

It’s been fairly clear Naruto is moon+

I don't want to ruin the fun, but you do realize that if Naruto did it, it would be a country level ish feat.

Thousands of times below moon level...

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@molt:

1) He is a creature of pure chakra. His size changes. This is even mentioned in official media in a few spots, but not in the manga directly.

2) Yea, that is definitely not from the Last movie.

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> Kurama is comparable to Gamabunta whom is 17m.

> Don't recall me saying Kurama was 17m.

Cmon now Woody.......lmao easy edit can save you yanno

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We see Naruto punch Toneri... That aint from the movie

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@loriazas: I know I meant his scaling. Not the punch

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@greythejiren: I’ve never seen the moon drawn with a noticeable fat crater in naruto/boruto you gotta show me a scan or something

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#27  Edited By Wk_Decaff

It's clearly from Naruto's punch we've seen the moon in Naruto a hundred times and this crater only appears after the movie. It's common sense.

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Yes, we see it being formed as Naruto gave Toneri that punch.

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It's clearly from Naruto's punch we've seen the moon in Naruto a hundred times and this crater only appears after the movie. It's wank*

FTFY

I don't think you guys comprehend the size of that moon crater in comparison to the crater Naruto's punch made on screen. Unless they retconned the size of the N:TL crater it was hardly even city sized let alone country.

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The crater Naruto made after the punch in the Last is nowhere near that size.

It would have least have to be small country sized for it to be that big.

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@mahfire: The crater is 508 miles wide I understand just how big it is and I know Naruto created it.

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It's clearly Naruto's work people

Jesus christ....

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#33  Edited By Poedameronsbutt

Not sure ngl

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#35  Edited By Raziel2014
@yoroshi0 said:
@molt said:
@theguildlove said:

@molt: Hilarious. What tells you the crater Kurama was is the one created by Naruto's punch? Headcanon? In addition i see you're still with your 17m Kurama fanfiction, since when you were the master photoshopper of this site. Remember when you cropped the picture showing Gamabunta being only as big as 50% Kurama's head? Additionally the size of a Bijuu depends on the amount of its chakra. A 100% Kurama was towering over mountains.

OT: in every other moon showing, both manga and anime, pre-The Last you can notice that huge crater is not present, meaning it happened after The Last. So everything points out that Naruto did it. Thanks to all the new canon infos about the size of Naruto Planet being several times bigger than our planet the crater (and ofc the moon) would also be way bigger than it looks like.

I see you're still creating alts to this day, Miriotogata/woodwarrior/dirosexo. Ironic how you call my comment headcanon, yet you make up a headcanon fan-theory that it must have been Naruto, despite nowhere stating that it was him. We know what Naruto's punch looked like in size:

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This doesn't look like the size of the crater in OP. You can compare it to the nearby craters. Unless if you think Naruto and Toneri are giants hehe. Don't recall me saying Kurama was 17m. What I said was that he's comparable in size to Gamabunta, which is true as shown here:

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Kurama doesn't appear to be that much bigger than Gamabunta and mind you he's closer to the camera than the toad. You're saying Kurama towers over ''mountains'', right? So, he should be like 20x bigger than Gamabunta who is 17m, yet that's clearly not shown on-screen. Another thing is, if Kurama was so much bigger then Gamabunta like you're implying, then he should have never been pinned him down by his sheer weight, since Gamabunta would be a feather to Kurama, but that's not what happened. Another proof their size is close to each other.

Gamabunta's official height:

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there is a reason why lightspeed haku is a joke in here. not everything on the GB is taken at face value

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canon says Gamabunta is 17m, deal with it, he is also shown to be between 17-25m when he makes an appearance with Naruto on his head in the fight with Pain. -> Gamabunta in Part 2

Kurama might be bigger but its not by much at 100% Kurama was roughly 50m in the flashback with Madara and Hashirama

he might look bigger in Part 1 but i guess Kishimoto fixed his scaling issues also 1999 art vs 2009 art. Databook also confirms the 17m so arguing against it is not much than arguing against canon. we all know art is inconsistent.

Boruto Anime also has Shukaku at about 17-25m in height -> Shukaku

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Good find. At first I thought it was just one of the same inconsistent craters the moon had in 4th war scene but the circles were black and this one seems to be a larger white drawn one which dwarfs any crater on moon which is missing in shippuden manga shots of the moon. And there are a few since eye of moon plan.

It easily dwarfs the Typhoon Crater.

The Boruto moon is usually drawn white by Ikemoto. While this retsuden manga is a lot more adaptive in detail. They have more influence working with Kishimoto who is probably happy about a new project and probably saw that one punch man scene in real life and crushed his soda can thinking “Didnt I have naruto on moon some years ago too ? Hey add this in guy.”

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@wabubub: His size only changed when Minato split him in 2. Every other instance is because of drawing inconsistency. We have Gamabunta's height confirmation, and we saw how he compares to Shukaku & Kurama, so there isn't much to debate.

@yoroshi0:Imagine thinking author stating a character's height isn't meant to be accepted

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17 meter gamabunta = 50 tonner Goku

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To be fair, the Naruto Moon got hit with all sorts of attacks that left holes in it, one was Toneri draining naruto of Chakara, the other was the Silver Wheel. We need more Conformation, but i do lean Heavily it was the Punch based on how it looks.

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You are reaching guys...

This isn't the crater from Naruto's punch. Hinata was around them when Naruto punched Toneri, such force would've obliterated her and we literally see the punch, the force was nowhere that big. The artist just draws the moon like that on some panels. If you look at other moon shots in the manga they don't resemble the one posted here.

Like, this is one of Kishi's panels with a Moon. It has a giant crater too.

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@greythejiren: I had said that too about 4th war moon but I was notified those were black spots while the one shown in the retsuden is one huge one white one that dwarfs the others ones

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I had said that too about 4th war moon but I was notified those were black spots while the one shown in the retsuden is one huge one white one that dwarfs the others ones

That's just his style. I mean cmon. You can't seriously claim that a random spot on a moon drawn only two times and never addressed in the manga is the crater from Naruto's punch. The same author didn't even draw it in all of his panels.

Besides, we see the surface of the Moon in the last right after Naruto rescued Toneri. There's no visible crater of such magnitude. And after Naruto and Hinata flew into the air.

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@yoroshi0 said:
@molt said:
@theguildlove said:

@molt: Hilarious. What tells you the crater Kurama was is the one created by Naruto's punch? Headcanon? In addition i see you're still with your 17m Kurama fanfiction, since when you were the master photoshopper of this site. Remember when you cropped the picture showing Gamabunta being only as big as 50% Kurama's head? Additionally the size of a Bijuu depends on the amount of its chakra. A 100% Kurama was towering over mountains.

OT: in every other moon showing, both manga and anime, pre-The Last you can notice that huge crater is not present, meaning it happened after The Last. So everything points out that Naruto did it. Thanks to all the new canon infos about the size of Naruto Planet being several times bigger than our planet the crater (and ofc the moon) would also be way bigger than it looks like.

I see you're still creating alts to this day, Miriotogata/woodwarrior/dirosexo. Ironic how you call my comment headcanon, yet you make up a headcanon fan-theory that it must have been Naruto, despite nowhere stating that it was him. We know what Naruto's punch looked like in size:

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This doesn't look like the size of the crater in OP. You can compare it to the nearby craters. Unless if you think Naruto and Toneri are giants hehe. Don't recall me saying Kurama was 17m. What I said was that he's comparable in size to Gamabunta, which is true as shown here:

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Kurama doesn't appear to be that much bigger than Gamabunta and mind you he's closer to the camera than the toad. You're saying Kurama towers over ''mountains'', right? So, he should be like 20x bigger than Gamabunta who is 17m, yet that's clearly not shown on-screen. Another thing is, if Kurama was so much bigger then Gamabunta like you're implying, then he should have never been pinned him down by his sheer weight, since Gamabunta would be a feather to Kurama, but that's not what happened. Another proof their size is close to each other.

Gamabunta's official height:

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there is a reason why lightspeed haku is a joke in here. not everything on the GB is taken at face value

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canon says Gamabunta is 17m, deal with it, he is also shown to be between 17-25m when he makes an appearance with Naruto on his head in the fight with Pain. -> Gamabunta in Part 2

Kurama might be bigger but its not by much at 100% Kurama was roughly 50m in the flashback with Madara and Hashirama

he might look bigger in Part 1 but i guess Kishimoto fixed his scaling issues also 1999 art vs 2009 art. Databook also confirms the 17m so arguing against it is not much than arguing against canon. we all know art is inconsistent.

Boruto Anime also has Shukaku at about 17-25m in height -> Shukaku

you can shove that databook's nonsensical statement up your hat. nobody cares about it, just like lightspeed haku. also, way to show you got a lick of knowledge about it, shukaku change his size in boruto.

and way to show you got a lick of knowledge about the franchise, shukaku changes his size in boruto. way to show how desperate you are to prove that tree sized tailed beasts nonsense.

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#45  Edited By yoroshi0
@molt said:

@wabubub: His size only changed when Minato split him in 2. Every other instance is because of drawing inconsistency. We have Gamabunta's height confirmation, and we saw how he compares to Shukaku & Kurama, so there isn't much to debate.

@yoroshi0:Imagine thinking author stating a character's height isn't meant to be accepted

funny you say that considering you have to imagine really hard how noob you have to be to not know that databooks for manga's are not made by the mangaka but rather by shueisha and the assistants.

@taurusaldebaran:

guess the boruto cult has bred out those mutants that believe kurama/shukaku are 17 meter...

once again, proving why boruto was a mistake

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wasn't there a huge hole where Kurama and the stone statue fought?

or the giant tempest that toneri made

the crater from naruto's punch wasn't big enough to be visible from space like that from what i remember

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Naruto didn't make that crater from his punch. But why would that matter in the slightest? Naruto still shitstomped Toneri in a vastly weaker form than SOSP, who can make craters like that and cut the moon in half, as well as TK it to Earth, therefore he would by default scale above that crater.

Also 17 meters Kurama is pure comedy.

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@greythejiren: I think kishimoto probably just forgot to add it. And retsuden is a lot more detailed in drawing. I have a feeling we will see more moon shots during this new manga so we shall see if it is consistently drawn. But as it stands the crater dwarfs any other crater including thyphoon crater.

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You lot are insane....

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Why does this even matter?

Doesn’t everyone have Naruto higher than this in striking anyway?

Literally means nothing if it was made my him or not