Debunking Bleach Wank

Doing another debunk thread but this time on Bleach. The verse always seemed to be getting stronger and claims saying it's at a certain lvl when no such feat in the series suggests so.

First I'm doing Attack Power(I'll do speed in another thread)

Sokyoku: "The Power to destroy soul society"🤓

Sokyoku is constantly wanked to planetary via it's statement of it having the power to destroy Soul Society:

This is clear hyperbole due to the fact it never has a feat backing the statement. Just like how It also has the statement to overwhelm everything in existence unless you wanna push Ichigo in SS being uni+

Azashiros Spear: Spirits Are Forever With You.

Azashiro having fused with all of Seireitei's reishi, compressed it into that clean blade. Said fusion called the strongest shield was lost, replaced by channeling it all into the strongest spear. With a reishi mass density far surpassing that of Sokyoku, Azashiro muttered with a smile.

Being stronger than the Sokyoku sure that's cool. However being stated stronger than a featless weapon is no flex whatsoever.

Arrancar Saga: Lanza Del Relampago

This is what Bleachers are grlorifying to MC and even coping with inflated calcs to wank it.

Especially when he was just afraid of destroying Las Noches. Most defnitely Planet lvl.

Senna Explosions

This is another weak ash "feat" Bleachers use to hype up the series to planetary. When the explosions weren't Senna's own lvl of power but energy she drew from the blanks. Even then the explosion only broke the gravitational pull the Living World and SS had on each other.

Senna Using the blanks energy​​​​​ The worlds will return to normal. This wasn't her power.

The explosions only broke the gravitational pull. it never destroyed the planetary bodies.

Zaraki and Azashiros battle

Apparently Zaraki and Azashiros clash threatened to destroy the Dangai something that tanked the Senna explosions of which Bleachers say is planetary.

Mutual colliding sword pressures with an energy that seemed capable of bisecting the very Dangai itself.

As I'm saying again the power wasn't her's nor did the explosions posses any level of planetary power as it only broke the gravitational pull between them.

Moon Lvl Pikaro

Another wank I've seen for bleach is Moon lvl Pikaro due to the SAFWY novel stating that Pikaro poured in energy to create a blackhole of which Spawns over Azashiro.

"Thus, the air stream then simply stops in the area surrounded by them... A black orb is brought into existence at the center in an instant. "That" jet black would not reflect light, and it would not be surprising if it was dubbed/called a black hole, spinning within itself at tremendous momentum, absorbing every single Reishi. Say there were wandering hollow spirits, the entire spiritual pressure that had possibly been sucked in would vanish within "That." In contrast, with the exception of the area surrounded by Picaro, there was no change, and the atmosphere was serene. We isolate this world as a border line, eating its interior."

This right here is redundant due to the fact the black hole is only described like one. This Black hole is sucking in reishi and doing no sort of damage to the enviroment stating it was unchanged/unaffected as the passage itself states. Moon lvl Pikaro is a argument that any debater with basic reading comprehension would know is complete pile of steaming anal discharge.

Arrancar Saga: Ichigo and Aizen transcendence

People think transcending Soul reapers makes Butterfly Aizen Monster Aizen Dangai/Mugetsu Ichigo planet lvl due to the wanked "feats" and statements in the series. Which I have either alr debunked/never had feats to begin with.

This is Aizen hyping up the destruction of a hill from a clash from him and Ichigo in their battle.

When in fact it wasn't even him it was really Ichigos doing.

Yamamoto the Jobber

A certain bleacher(you know who you are) thinks Yamamoto is planet lvl due to preventing an attack that would have destroyed cities due to "Aizen saying thanks to you this world was saved" when that is to clearly shit on Yamamoto for failing to kill him with an attack that never hit him.

​​​​​​Aizen's statement

Another feat from Yamamoto people use to wank him to planet lvl is his Bankai Zanka No Tachi. Which is stated to be able to destroy SS.

However this is only stated to happen overtime at best only surface wiping as the heat did no real significant damage to buildings nor was the planet shown under any heavy affects by it aside from the rain which probably wasn't because of him from even the time that passed.

Wanderweich lift

For some really stupid reason the lifting of the city is calced at planetary somehow. When it's only a city being lifted.

​​​​​Bleach Digital Colored Comics Chapter 627

Gremmy's Meteor

Apparently People looked at this and said Multi-Continental.............

Edit: Right most definitely MC when the size of the meteor is directly stated to be a problem unless you wanna claim the meteor is planetary in size ​​​​​​Chapter 576

Let him cook

Damn, the takes…….. wanna see him do Black Clover next.

lol

I most definitely did.

Sure when I have time Ig tho I don't think it would be very hard rarely ever seen large scale destruction feats from the MT lvl verse

@supreme101:

The sokyoku thing isn't a hyperbole. It's a formal statement by aizen explaining what it's capable of.Even the databooks backs up this claim saying it has the power of 1 million zanpakto. Also the fact no one in soul society questioned it being able to destroy the soul society should tell it's not a hyperbole. So your entire point is mute. It being beyond everything is likely a hyperbole tho.

Lanza can just have planet level ap plus i dont anyone who argued planet level lanza.

Senna is planetary and technically that is her power as she is embodiment of all the blanks memeories and thus is connected to them all. Which is how she's able to control them im the first place. Pulling in 2 planets with GBE which has enough force tp crash and destroy them both requires planetary energy.

Earths gravity binding energy is planetary to over power that binding energy you need beyond planetary power which is what senna did. You don't even know the basics of power scaling

Your just being dishonest here the meteor is 1/3 the size of the seirrite which is country size even if we lowball the size based on visuals the meteor still MC Becasue of it's kinetic energy.

@supreme101: then where do you place Bleach in terms of power exactly ?

theres no way you just said casual swings were the full power of Aizen and ichigo lmfao

theyre casual swings were eradicating mountains and warping entire landscapes

@supreme101: I mean this is just really silly isn’t it?

Supposed to be hibernating, and I will return, but let’s begin:

Sokyoku:

This is clear hyperbole due to the fact it never has a feat backing the statement. Just like how It also has the statement to overwhelm everything in existence unless you wanna push Ichigo in SS being uni+

Arbitrary reasoning for determining what is hyperbolic, we believe this because it’s not the only place where it’s stated:

Gallery

If you think it‘s wank to repeat statements fine, who cares we are just repeating what the manga says argue with Kubo

I’ll offer you some help though; most hyperbolic statements aren’t so specific :)

Azashiro:

Notice how you didn’t mention him filling up the Dangai with energy, threatening it’s borders, totally validating his status as a planet level character

Lanza Del Whatever:

This is what Bleachers are grlorifying to MC and even coping with inflated calcs to wank it.

Right. I dislike the use of calcs, generally.

I don’t think Lanza is MC, in fact most don’t. It’s a modern (if I can even say modern) interpretation.

Btw, do you know what a debunk is? You’ve just stated you don’t think that it‘s MC. Shouldn’t you post the calc and debunk it?

This was lazily done.

Aizen and Dangai Ichigo:

People think transcending Soul reapers makes Butterfly Aizen Monster Aizen Dangai/Mugetsu Ichigo planet lvl due to the wanked "feats" and statements in the series. Which I have either alr debunked/never had feats to begin with.

No feats =\= debunked genius. And there are feats brick head you’re being lazy… how can you make a debunk thread and do no debunking?

This is Aizen hyping up the destruction of a building from a clash from him and Ichigo in their battle.

Already debunked, this is SO boring now, you have zero reaponse to Aizen saying his power is a dimension above:

And AiNe mentioned his sword changes the landscape, which makes no reference to size.

The fact Ichigo said it wasn’t his sword is COMPLETELY irrelevant as he still clashed and felt with that power and said it was a dimension below (LOL), and it just goes to show that his power is completely indiscriminate and unintentional.

Unintentionally altering the landscape with a parried attack? Sounds like he’s way stronger than he seems, doesn’t it?

Anyway, this was also pretty lazy and this argument is from 2014, which is why we ignore it

A certain someone thinks Yamamoto is planet lvl due to preventing an attack that would have destroyed cities due to "Aizen saying thanks to you this world was saved" when that is to clearly shit on Yamamoto for failing to kill him with an atack that never hit him

MC btw.

Not planet level.

See how you changed your tun? before you said it was just a city and you realised the kanji said many times the size of Karakura. Thats is what a debunk is.

Verifable and irrefutable information to refute another’s position. Listen and learn.

Also:

"Aizen saying thanks to you this world was saved" when that is to clearly shit on Yamamoto for failing to kill him with an atack that never hit him

He was literally talking about power the entire time🤣this guy is saying clearly

Zanka no Tachi, stated to be able to destroy the world over time (I believe it is MC) and this attacked damaged him far more.

I have ZERO doubt in claiming this attack would have life wiped the planet because it wasnt me that stwted Zanka no Tachi could destroy the world, it was Yama, Unohana, and the midpanels that state Zanka no Tachi affected the planet.

We are literally just repeating what it says and you’re saying it’s wank.

However this is only stated to happen overtime at best only surface wiping as the heat did no real significant damage to buildings nor was the planet shown under any heavy affects by it aside from the rain which probably wasn't because of him from even the time that passed.

So we don’t even disagree?

I think Yama is MC, and the midpanels state that Zanka no Tachi affected the whole planet.

Is that a lie? If I repeat what it says, am I lying?

So you didnt really debunk anything, you just expressed your distaste for some fringe arguments. Come on dude.

Wandenreich lift:

For some really stupid reason the lifting of the city is calced at planetary somehow. When it's only a city being lifted.

So a city being lifted makes five cities?🤣

You do remember he lifted Seireitei, and he took enough mass to cover 5 cities, create a new sixth one, and make giant ice peaks beneath all of them?

Bro, this is silly, infact this was the laziest one.

Debunk the calc or remain silent on these issues

The meteor one is just silly, I won’t even bother with it

Anyway do some actual debunking.

When i’m properly back in a couple weeks, maybe then they’ll be something of substance here

Im crying you actually think youre right which is hilarious

@undre:

The sokyoku thing isn't a hyperbole. It's a formal statement by aizen explaining what it's capable of.Even the databooks backs up this claim saying it has the power of 1 million zanpakto. Also the fact no one in soul society questioned it being able to destroy the soul society should tell it's not a hyperbole. So your entire point is mute. It being beyond everything is likely a hyperbole tho.

Does it have a feat of destroying SS? No. just because there's a databook and it's characters go along with it dosen't change it's hyperbolic cuz theres no feat to back it up go ahead show me a feat for destroying SS overwhelming everything in existence.

Lanza can just have planet level ap plus i dont anyone who argued planet level lanza.

I said MC.

Senna is planetary and technically that is her power as she is embodiment of all the blanks memeories and thus is connected to them all. Which is how she's able to control them im the first place. Pulling in 2 planets with GBE which has enough force tp crash and destroy them both requires planetary energy.

She literally says she utilizes the blanks energy that statement is null and void when she herself states she's using the energy of the blanks to stop the worlds from colliding.

Earths gravity binding energy is planetary to over power that binding energy you need beyond planetary power which is what senna did. You don't even know the basics of power scaling

A rocket can fly out to space and sail away from earth overpowering it's gravitational pull since the gravity of earth=planetary I guess a rockets planetary in power it seems.

Your just being dishonest here the meteor is 1/3 the size of the seirrite which is country size even if we lowball the size based on visuals the meteor still MC Becasue of it's kinetic energy.

That dosen't automatically equal MC and show me the country statement then lmao I've asked several times yet all I see are calcs and irrelevant explanations.

Speaking of Gremmy his best feat was creating a galaxy which (I've heard was removed via the anime iirc) and he's a glass cannon that needs to enhance his dura so kenny killing him (while he was off guard)dosen't scale him either😂

You heard wrong because its still in the anime LMFAO this guy doesnt read or watch bleach im crying

@notthegodmadara: Don't debunk things, let the man cook....

Bro who made you angry, this is silly, you’d actually have a better time talking about the speed scaling in Bleach which is shit instead we are still here talking about AP, 9 years on

The levels of characters have a general consensus and are outlined with feats.

God tiers reach beyond planet level, and scale far above planetary feats (Ichigo, Aizen, Yhwach)

High tiers are planet level to MC depending on interpretation (Ichibei, Yama, Kenpachi)

And mid tiers can reach continental but usually sit around country (most Sternritter, Espada)

It’s just best to leave it alone, greater than you and I have sparred with these topics and it amounts to nothing

Here's what hurts, i agree with the final "results" of these "exercises". But the method is not only crude, but just bad debating. Shit's just bad.

@ninjarizer:

Supposed to be hibernating, and I will return, but let’s begin:

Sokyoku:

Lmao bro says hibernating as if he weren't just on hours ago and said the same shit yesterday.

Arbitrary reasoning for determining what is hyperbolic, we believe this because it’s not the only place where it’s stated:

Lmao so because it's stated multiple times means it's not hyberbolic lmao so because it's said multiple times that a dragon from black clover is MC because it's stated capable of vaping the entire sea with it's claws is/=/ hyperbolic when it has no feat of doing so lol. Show me Sokyoku obliterating the universe.

If you think it‘s wank to repeat statements fine, who cares we are just repeating what the manga says argue with Kubo

Kubos the ones who didn't bring feats lol.

I’ll offer you some help though; most hyperbolic statements aren’t so specific :)

Azashiro:

Notice how you didn’t mention him filling up the Dangai with energy, threatening it’s borders, totally validating his status as a planet level character

Okay.......and.

Right. I dislike the use of calcs, generally.

I don’t think Lanza is MC, in fact most don’t. It’s a modern (if I can even say modern) interpretation.

Btw, do you know what a debunk is? You’ve just stated you don’t think that it‘s MC. Shouldn’t you post the calc and debunk it?

Glad we agree on the calcs part. Debunking a calc is unnecassary when not only are they proven to be inflated the very manga visuals I'm showing go against the premise.

No feats =\= debunked genius. And there are feats brick head you’re being lazy… how can you make a debunk thread and do no debunking?

A debunk requires an explanation which I did........

Already debunked, this is SO boring now, you have zero reaponse to Aizen saying his power is a dimension above:

Again this is Aizen who mentioned the hill busting thinking it was HIS doing so him being cocky against Ichigo is no surprise when he brings up power levels in that very same scan your showing.

And AiNe mentioned his sword changes the landscape, which makes no reference to size.

The fact Ichigo said it wasn’t his sword is COMPLETELY irrelevant as he still clashed and felt with that power and said it was a dimension below (LOL), and it just goes to show that his power is completely indiscriminate and unintentional.

Ichigo wasn't even trying remember this is Ichigo who just dragged Aizen to another location completely blitzing him with no effort. He only began destroying him once he for the first time swung at him.

Unintentionally altering the landscape with a parried attack? Sounds like he’s way stronger than he seems, doesn’t it?

It's still stated it's they're power being displayed which Aizen still hypes up.

MC btw.

Not planet level.

See how you changed your tun? before you said it was just a city and you realised the kanji said many times the size of Karakura. Thats is what a debunk is.

I'm referring to the the statement he makes about the capability of destroying a city larger than the fake town I know what I linked. That's why I said would have destroyed a larger city

He was literally talking about power the entire time🤣this guy is saying clearly

Zanka no Tachi, stated to be able to destroy the world over time (I believe it is MC) and this attacked damaged him far more.

Are you good Aizen just before refers to the technique capable of burning a larger city than the fake town to ash and you somehow get planet lvl out it?

Proof how it's MC lmao it's still a slow process that occured overtime buildings didn't even melt or burn even a tiny jar merely cracked😂😂😂 Yamamoto lost his arm using a secret Kido and somehow the bankai did more damage to him?

So we don’t even disagree?

I think Yama is MC, and the midpanels state that Zanka no Tachi affected the whole planet.

Is that a lie? If I repeat what it says, am I lying?

So you didnt really debunk anything, you just expressed your distaste for some fringe arguments. Come on dude.

Yeah it did affect it But did it. A) turn the planet to ash or B) only raise the temperature and did no real signifant damage over the time it was active. This is my argument it did no real significant damage and it was only overtime.

So a city being lifted makes five cities?🤣

You do remember he lifted Seireitei, and he took enough mass to cover 5 cities, create a new sixth one, and make giant ice peaks beneath all of them?

The hell is you waffling about he never lifted the seretei ​​​Bleach Digital Colored Comics Chapter 627 page 5"The landscape that was covering the seretei is being lifted" Those 5 cities were 5 seperate smaller ones connected to the royal place lol.

Bro, this is silly, infact this was the laziest one.

Debunk the calc or remain silent on these issues

The meteor one is just silly, I won’t even bother with it

Calcs don't even require any in depth analysis for a debunk

Oh right I forgot iirc according to you you think the meteor that murked the dinos was MC cuz of it's smoke and pollution.

Anyway do some actual debunking.

When i’m properly back in a couple weeks, maybe then they’ll be something of substance here

There already was your bleacher starter pack kicked in denied the argument and didn't properly interpret the feats and statements made by the characters lol.

Bro who made you angry, this is silly, you’d actually have a better time talking about the speed scaling in Bleach which is shit instead we are still here talking about AP, 9 years on

I'm not angry lol what indicated I was mad? project much

Ye im not, Im enjoying this thread now

@notthegodmadara:

Im crying you actually think youre right which is hilarious

About BC or Bleach or both cuz I'm definitely right BC especially.

You heard wrong because its still in the anime LMFAO this guy doesnt read or watch bleach im crying

Are you like......okay what part of what I said indicated I didn't at the very least read the series I never watched the anime(TYBW) cuz the bleach anime is ass I just said what I heard for the anime which I never watched completely. (then again this is the same bleacher who claims country sized Seireitei lol) You also think Lenpachi beats Momoshiki that's allI need from you lmao. Actually make an argument or hop off me

Based on that image? Not even half a teraton of tnt.

Unless you think the meteor was moving faster than the speed of lightning or something.

Good counter thread.

The Sokyoku has been debunked already in past. Power of one million zanpaktou. It was stopped by soul society arc shikai Ichigo. Who’s less than country lv. You would need to say the sokyoku power amplifies hundreds of times each time it attacks which would take multiple times of attacking for its ap to get planet lv.

I agree that lifting wanderich calc is not planet lv in AP. Because the distance is based off Ichigo travel speed 9 hours going lightning speed which results in millions of km. When the calc doesn’t account for Ichigo having taken so long because of the 72 barriers. When broken Ywach got to soul palace in one chapter. Ichigo and co got there in a rocket. Gerald was implied to be able to fall and crush seretei if he fell from soul palace. That’s not a million + km distance the author suggests with dialogue. Aizen was implied to be able to shoot down soul palace.

Azashiro and Zaraki clash was more in a confined smaller place in the dangai i don’t think the entire dangai was at threat of being destroyed especially by Tiers who are on the lower end of the stick in scaling. Zaraki without bankai should be no stronger than elite sternritter like amped Gerald lv. Who Is headcanon to say he surpassed his Bankai state in war with just his Shikai and no eyepatch in novel.

Senna calc with combined blanks power overrides the power and pull of the SK Husk as the sk husk couldn’t push the worlds apart when the combined blanks power was pulling the worlds. It took the combined power of the blanks to push back the worlds. So no one but prime SK should scale to senna calc with combined blanks.

His own logic being used against him.

Also reading through the op man didn't counter shit just called it wank and moved on. I'm dead.

You’re a disgrace and an embarrassment to the debating community.

Once I finish Bleach and have the patience to go through with your delusion, we are definitely going to debate this. Also, this is the laziest ‘debunk’ I’ve ever seen, 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️.

@rdcdesmond: ichigo didn't slow down going through the barriers...that's such an baseless opinion and one already proven false. On panel we see ichigo go through a barrier and he doesn't slow down at all. Completely baseless to assume he's getting stuck for longer periods of time at the barriers. Lightning speed is the lowball btw as that's grimmjow level of travel speed. Yhwach also doesn't travel there by himself but uses a specific technique to do so. Nothing else you said there is even relevant as proof

Don't know enough about SAFWY to comment on the azashiro and kenpachi fight

Senna doesn't scale to most people either imo just the top god tiers

Lol dawg

@supreme101:

Coming from the one who uses inflated calcs dosen't know what a concession is in a debate nor can't accept they did and repeats the same notion like a broken record when it's debunked because that's what they rely on as an argument.

Not only did I not use calcs in my posts, but everything you just said is wrong. Once you can tell the truth about what happened, I’ll be willing to listen - otherwise, don’t even.

Debunk it then oh wait you're not going too just like how you didn't attempt to last time you talk shit here when you ran before like a lizard once your tail was caught

Your lack of reading comprehension has again gotten the better of you.

I literally told you, twice, that I’ll get back to you, yet you run your mouth as if you won the debate. It’s as pathetic as your debunk attempt. See you then.

@konohana:

Not only did I not use calcs in my posts, but everything you just said is wrong. Once you can tell the truth about what happened, I’ll be willing to listen - otherwise, don’t even.

Based what you said off a calc right here.#9 And yes you did you kept repeating what you said ignoring that fact dosen't change it.

Your lack of reading comprehension has again gotten the better of you.

Nope you quite blatantly left the argument not once but twice.

I literally told you, twice, that I’ll get back to you, yet you run your mouth as if you won the debate. It’s as pathetic as your debunk attempt. See you then.

You said you'd get back yet haven't so far and it's been nearly two days more than enough time hell the time you posted all of this you could have just presented your argument and got back as you said....yet you didn't. Twist it however you want you still left. if anything is pathetic it's what your doing. Displaying your ignorance. lying to cope and deluding yourself into thinking you actually did something through saying this. Smdh.

@supreme101:

Based what you said off a calc right here.#9And yes you did you kept repeating what you said ignoring that fact dosen't change it.

Alright, so some peak delusion right here: I only mentioned some calcs that I felt would back up my arguments, not me using any of them.

Also, even I did bring some forward, you’d have to argue why they could possibly be wrong - not shoot it down without doing so because you dislike them in general. Just a debating tip.

Nope you quite blatantly left the argument not once but twice.

Yeah… which I had explained above.

Good job though on misinterpreting what I said though, yet again.

You said you'd get back yet haven't so far and it's been nearly two days more than enough time hell the time you posted all of this you could have just presented your argument and got back as you said....yet you didn't. Twist it however you want you still left. if anything is pathetic it's what your doing. Displaying your ignorance. lying to cope and deluding yourself into thinking you actually did something through saying this. Smdh.

I told you I was going to finish Bleach, and more importantly, that would mean getting my scaling together. If you weren’t aware, it is going to take me much longer than ‘two days’ to do all of that.

In the mean time, take your meds, and go learn some patience.

cool thread and all, but i couldn't really notice why "debunking" was in the title, hmmm.

@konohana:

Alright, so some peak delusion right here: I only mentioned some calcs that I felt would back up my arguments, not me using any of them.

Also, even I did bring some forward, you’d have to argue why they could possibly be wrong - not shoot it down without doing so because you dislike them in general. Just a debating tip.

So you admit you based what you said off a calc exactly as I said good job. If you were actually reading I did argue for why they were wrong.

Yeah… which I had explained above.

Good job though on misinterpreting what I said though, yet again.

You still left what part of that is so hard to grasp.

I told you I was going to finish Bleach, and more importantly, that would mean getting my scaling together. If you weren’t aware, it is going to take me much longer than ‘two days’ to do all of that.

So your going to finish bleach how? through watching the weekly releasing of a 4 cour anime or the manga? In fact why even wait to finish the series when you alr presented your argument with scans at the very least lol.

In the mean time, take your meds, and go learn some patience.

No one sits around for a weeks or who knows how long waiting for someone to return with an argument by then the debates alr over💀

@supreme101:

So you admit you based what you said off a calc exactly as I said good job. If you were actually reading I did argue for why they were wrong.

That’s not what I said, and why are you so hung up on this? All I meant was that there were ALSO calcs that would support all of my arguments, and you never saw one.

You still left what part of that is so hard to grasp.

Why would that matter? The whole point of me stepping away anyhow is to better my Bleach debating.

So your going to finish bleach how? through watching the weekly releasing of a 4 cour anime or the manga?

I’ll simply finish it by continuing where I left off - around the end of the Lost Agent arc.

And it’s the manga I’m talking about.

No one sits around for a weeks or who knows how long waiting for someone to return with an argument by then the debates alr over💀

I’m not saying you should wait for that one debate to kick back up again, but I’m sure you can bet that there’ll be more after that.

This man just does not like Bleach at all, for some reason.

@theemperor95:

Juha lifting Wanderich being planet lv is based off how ”far” he’s moving the calculated mass. It’s a city so the mass will always be inaccurate and a guess, but the real problem is the distance.

Soul palace isn’t millions of km away.

The arguments didn’t account for the 72 barriers which causes friction Everytime Ichigo goes through one. Friction slows down a moving object. It took Ichigo 9 hours because of the 72 Barriers. Where areas Juha Chant which he called the Key opened a beam of light that was able to shoot them to the soul palace in one chapter but only after the Barriers was broken. The fact you can’t go through the barriers without Oken means there is resistance until the oken passes through. Ichigo penetrated every Barrie’s but the friction slowed him down and the clothes protected him from the damage. It’s Like breaking through glass with a uncuttable suit.

- Fast forward giant form gerald is implied his body could crush seretei if he fell from soul palace height. This doesn’t imply it’s a millions of km distance but a reasonable distance

- Aizen is claimed to be able to shoot down soul palace with a ranged attack while restrained to a chair another sign soul palace isn’t millions of km away especially after barriers are broken

- soul king ywach after absorbing soul king husk black goo monsters reached down to seretei from soul palace in a few panels yet were reacted to by vice captains and Shikai captains

- The Shiba canon rocket got Ichigo and his friends from seretei to soul palace faster than Ichigo true Shikai leaving soul palace to making it to seretei, going through barriers along the way down to get to battlefield when he first arrived in war

Island level Lanza is so random.

Honestly, a lot of the fan calcs and assumptions I see is based on believing all the hyperbole the series throws at you at face value which me personally, I'm perfectly ok with!

However! Fans of his series need to do the same to others. Too many times I see them wanting us to accept their Author's text box as truth, but then turn around deny those same Author text boxes from different series. You can't expect us to believe the hype and impression your series characters while demand extreme example of feats from other series to compete with Bleach.

So while I can accept Sokyoku could destroy the world, Bleach fans need to accept that Whitebeard can destroy the world, Naruto can beat up a moon, and Saitama breaks fiction to win every vs battle.

@takenstew22@krisbishop@socajunkie@nwname@frozen@owie

Against the rules

@rdcdesmond: wandenreich is far more than a city...is this 2012? No way anyone serious is still saying the sereitei is city sized lmao

We on panel see ichigo go through a barrier and he didn't slow down lmao you're literally arguing against what happened on panel to claim some ridiculous head canon

How on earth does toshiro (not gerard) statement of him falling have any relevance? If he fell from millions of kilometers he'd destroy the sereitei

Again how is aizen being able to shoot it down somehow shorten the distance? Lmao at these arguments

They didn't even react to the black goo until it was already on them

The kukaku cannon is made from technology even kisuke/mayuri can't replicate properly lmao that's a feat for the cannon. Their technological feats speak for themselves

All of these arguments are beyond weak and complete headcanon because you don't like what is represented on panel

I just love how people (Bleachers) go straight to saying bs without even trying to debunk it(except ninja and Undre) and go straight to insulting or claiming I never even made an explanation for my debunk. MB wants go around quoting and telling people to not debunk me as if I haven't destroyed him alr.

As usual Wanderez wants to call someone stupid and meme when they think Pikaro are moon lvl and think hueco muendo is MC or planet lvl base aizen and calc every explosion they see to planet lvl and base those calcs off shit from vsbw because they lack the brain power to actually analyze the feat. Nor were they even able toproperly read they're own scans debunking they're argument, @%^$& behavior.

Like everyone's saying these don't seem like debunks at all it's just you going "Nuh uh" pretty much.

@cav_tighten: I like how I use an explanation backing it up with statements links and scans and ask for a feat due to it's lacking and yet I'm still told I never provided any reasoning and just say "Nu uh" When it's the bleachers going on a rant and crying in these comments most not even attempting to debunk anything and using foul language smdh.

@supreme101:

"For some really stupid reason the lifting of the city is calced at planetary somehow. When it's only a city being lifted.

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Where the hell is the debunk? All I see is laziness

You do know it takes energy to move something right? Imagine moving a country at ridiculous speeds.

@supreme101:

MB wants go around quoting and telling people to not debunk me as if I haven't destroyed him alr.

Nice, and I just so you know, I'll say we agree-disagree due to not accepting my new scans of bringing new subtitles regarding the senna feat, but no matter what happens, you ain't getting a concession form all of us anyway. Have fun with your "Planetary Bijuus" or "Multi-continental KCM Naruto" or sumthing, bye.

@masterbuster666: I alr debunked your scans with statements from the movie lol but sure I’ll stick with my notions for planetary bijuus and kcm cuz at least they have the feats and scaling unlike Clorox🤷🏾‍♂️