CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths Discussion Thread

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@frozen said:

@samjackson: Yeah I can't envision WB allowing that.

The part with KC Supes seems plausible but I thought Welling‘s role was strictly the farmhouse cameo we see in the trailer.

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Pretty sure it was stated that we'll see the 3 supes together

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@samjackson: The show runners stated we will have a scene with all 3 Superman together.

I'm certain that they're doing a misdirection by showing that farm cameo. Hopefully he has a larger role.

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@frozen said:

@samjackson: The show runners stated we will have a scene with all 3 Superman together.

I'm certain that they're doing a misdirection by showing that farm cameo. Hopefully he has a larger role.

I know a lot of people love Reeve’s Superman but Smallville has always been my favorite (Even with no tights and no flights). I hope his role is larger.

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Huge announcement incoming before sunday

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@saintwildcard: Which would be weird since they said smallville season 11 comics are canon and based on that he should be way above any of them based on feats. If its true it would be giant pis.

Agree. It's gonna be hilarious to see how they explain all this after they said this would be clark after season 11+. I personally think the leaks aren't true but would be funny to see watch nonetheless.

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#257  Edited By Frozen

@kudlak-sin: Those supposed leaks don't state that Smallville Clark is at CW Clark or Kara's level, it just states that Routh Supes stomps Smallville Supes and CW Kara/Clark at the same time. That wouldn't invalidate his season 11 feats at all. It would just act as scaling for Routh's KC Supes, because as I said before, we haven't seen an aged version of this Superman yet. It wouldn't change the fact that Smallville Clark > CW.

I don't think they're true either but there's a chance. We'll see.

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@eobard21 said:

Huge announcement incoming before sunday

Source?

@frozen said:

@samjackson: The show runners stated we will have a scene with all 3 Superman together.

I'm certain that they're doing a misdirection by showing that farm cameo. Hopefully he has a larger role.

I know a lot of people love Reeve’s Superman but Smallville has always been my favorite (Even with no tights and no flights). I hope his role is larger.

I can see where you're coming from. Smallville gives me strong nostalgia. It was a good interpretation of the character.

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@frozen: marc guggenheim on twitter

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@frozen said:

@kudlak-sin: Those supposed leaks don't state that Smallville Clark is at CW Clark or Kara's level, it just states that Routh Supes stomps Smallville Supes and CW Kara/Clark at the same time. That wouldn't invalidate his season 11 feats at all. It would just act as scaling for Routh's KC Supes, because as I said before, we haven't seen an aged version of this Superman yet. It wouldn't change the fact that Smallville Clark > CW.

I don't think they're true either but there's a chance. We'll see.

Unless he preforms the things clark did in season 11+ or equivalent than yes it would just be pis at best. The last thing you want to see is him "stomping" clark than barely be able to perform a feat hilarious below what he could do in the comics. This whole thing will be filled with inconsistency I can already tell. And no I don't believe that leak for a sec even though like I said it would be hilarious to see.

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@eobard21: Last time he said that it was just the Harbinger reveal, which I personally didn't care for lol.

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#265  Edited By Frozen

@kudlak-sin: Why would he need to replicate those feats in order to beat him? That doesn't make sense to me. He already has Silver Age esque feats from the original movies.

This version is based on the Kingdom Come version who is older and far more powerful. Again, as I said before, we've never seen this version in action before. He's 10-15 years older than his younger self so it makes perfect sense that he would be depicted as more powerful.

If he is capable of doing this, its scaling. That's how scaling works. Characters don't have to push a planet to prove that they can beat the character that can. They just fight that character and depending on how they perform, are scaled to them. For instance, if Darkseid beats up Superman, does he need to replicate all of Superman's strength feats to make the feat valid? No, it would be absurd to expect that.

The only way your point works is if Routhman has been portrayed as far weaker to the point where it doesn't make sense, and he hasn't. This is the first time we are seeing the aged version so he's not been shown as weaker. I see no reason why an aged up version wouldn't be able to replicate those feats, especially if he is supposed to be akin to KC Supes.

As to whether they're accurate, as I said, take them with a huge grain of salt.

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@eobard21: Last time he said that it was just the Harbinger reveal, which I personally didn't care for lol.

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#268  Edited By Wolfrazer

@frozen said:

So Marc Guggenheim is confirming that the original John Williams Superman theme will return. A few months ago he said WB wouldn't allow it, but now that has changed:

https://twitter.com/mguggenheim/status/1202975299580780544

...Why? Doesn't WB own CW?

I honestly can never understand companies and TV/movies and why the former limit the latter in what they can and can't do, when they own the networks or whatever. I don't see what it's hurting.

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Oh that's hype

Seeing Routh supes with that thème

Awesome

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@wolfrazer: WB are weird like that. They have strange rules. I'm pretty sure they didn't allow the mention of 'Batman' in the Gotham finale, yet Batman is openly referenced by name in one of the Arrowverse shows (IIRC when Arrow is openly showing his jealousy towards Batman).

@eobard21 said:

Oh that's hype

Seeing Routh supes with that thème

Awesome

I hope they play the Planet Krypton theme. Its even better than the main theme.

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This looks awesome.

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Hyped as hell

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#275  Edited By Thor_Parker82

So, is Kingdom Come Superman confirmed to be the very same version from the original Superman movies ? So now I need to assume that version got everyone knew and loved from the Daily Planet killed by the Joker ? Talk about a sad ending for a beloved character that many grew up with, that takes some balls.

Also, is Ralph Dibny going to be on the crossover ? He's my favorite character from the CW and it seems he was written off.

Speaking of which, has he been in any of the previous crossovers ? I don't remember.

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Just a few more hours....

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@thor_parker82: Yes it is the same Superman from the originals and Superman Returns.

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I'm going to watch this via streaming. British time zone it airs 1am.

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I think I'll wait till the three episodes air, and then finish them at once at the end of the week.

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So which show is this starting on?

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One more hour.

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@jashro44 said:
@supremegeneration said:

One more hour.

Crisis starts tonight?!?!?!

Yessir. Today on Supergirl, they moved Batwoman tomorrow, and then Flash on Tuesday.

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@jashro44 said:

@supremegeneration: Isn't Crisis 5 parts?

They're gonna take a month-long break and do both the latter parts for Arrow and Legends on January 14th.

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@jashro44 said:

@supremegeneration: Isn't Crisis 5 parts?

They're gonna take a month-long break and do both the latter parts for Arrow and Legends on January 14th.

Wait what? So there going to start Crisis and than finish Crisis in like a month? That's so dumb. There going to kill all the momentum.

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@jashro44: They’re probably going on break because Part 3 will end with a huge cliffhanger, like everyone dying. CW probably wants to imitate the end of Infinity War.

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Can we discuss spoilers here now its begun?

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@frozen said:

Can we discuss spoilers here now its begun?

Use spoiler tags for the first day or so. Just for now.

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I didn't expect that to happen at the end....I expected that to happen much later.

I guess Green Arrow 2046 will replace Oliver for the rest of the crossover.....

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@the_hajduk As someone who was thinking what happened at the end wouldn't happen what are your thoughts?

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@jashro44 said:

@the_hajduk As someone who was thinking what happened at the end wouldn't happen what are your thoughts?

He’ll obviously be back. Don’t fall for the bait.

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I have to say if that is

Oliver's death its not as good as I was hoping. Compare that to Steins death and its nowhere near as good IMO. Oliver should have had his last words next episode.

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#297  Edited By Frozen

@jashro44: Damn I'm on phone so formatting is limited. I'll refrain from spoilers until I get to a laptop.

I was surprised by the ep, a bit let down but eh. Next one looks a lot better.

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@the_hajduk:

I think 2046 Green Arrow will join the crossover. I think Earth 1 Green Arrow is dead.

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Wait wtf ?

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@jashro44: OK they’re talking in the after show as if he’s really dead.... I am starting to get scared.