CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths Discussion Thread

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@magian said:

Ehh, don't really expect to do much anyway in this event. All these characters sound like just fanservice to me.

Well that's kind of the CW's strength. Especially with crossovers.

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First the side by side with Welling and now this? Tyler really is just a boy among men. No wonder Supergirl could kick his ass

(Sorry Tyler, loved you one Teen WOlf)

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First the side by side with Welling and now this? Tyler really is just a boy among men. No wonder Supergirl could kick his ass

(Sorry Tyler, loved you one Teen WOlf)

LMAO!!

He has to be the smallest person to ever play Superman, right?

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LMAO!!

He has to be the smallest person to ever play Superman, right?

Well, only taking into account the big ones. only by an inch. He's 6 feet, and Cavill is only an inch taller.

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Saw the picture with Welling earlier. He really did look so small there lol Knew that Routh was tall but didn't know Welling was that tall.

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@saintwildcard: Not just his height though, just body size in general maybe Dean Cain was smaller?

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@saintwildcard: think he meant his physical size like muscle mass and stuff. Hoechlin isn’t a thicc boy like Cavill, Routh or Tom

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Audrey Marie Anderson as Harbinger first look.

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So Harbinger is going to be in it, huh? Cool.

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#160  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
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Can't wait to Yao Fei kills the Anti Monitor with a flying omoplata followed by a universe busting pressure point.

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About to see a glimpse of the Anti Monitor/COIE in the next epi of flash !

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LUCIFER MORNINGSTAR!!!

YES.

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While I do have my concerns over the quality of the crossover, I do have to commend them on using characters from all these different TV shows.

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Crisis on Infinite Earths is gonna be💥

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Wonder when the kid that played Batman in Gotham will be tapped for a Cameo? I wonder how that Morningstar Cameo is gonna work? He should just shrug and be above it all

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Can they even use Tom’s Lucifer? Looking forward to this Crossover.

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Keaton Batman confirmed?

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People be saying Titans will be in the crossover for a cameo

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There's still no news that The Ray and the Freedom Fighters will be in the crossover

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#173  Edited By MAZAHS117

Wow. It’s seems like everything Warners can’t or willingly won’t do in the DC movies, they are doing for this mass crossover. It’s really cool

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Any update?

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No kidding, he looks great.

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Yea, he looks Cool.

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-> Count down begins....can't wait.

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The only reason I'm watching this is for Brandon Routh and Tom Welling.

Hopefully these two aren't depowered to CW Supergirl power levels. They should be depicted as far more powerful.

Also, I'm hoping that Tom Welling has more than just a small cameo.

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Hopefully they don't do my boi Barry dirty

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@frozen: Why do the two fan service guest characters deserve to be depicted as more powerful than one of the main characters?

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#184  Edited By Frozen

@the_hajduk: Because they ARE more powerful than CW characters?

Why should "fan service" characters from established media be made weaker than CW versions? Its disrespectful and lazy to those beloved versions of the character. The same reason CW botched Superman in making him weaker than CW Kara. It was a disrespectful decision.

Smallville Superman has a decade worth of TV source material along with his own comic series. Routh is playing an older version of the beloved Reeve Superman - the most iconic Superman.

So neither of these characters should be made into jobbers to appease CW fans. If the CW wants to make them jobbers, they shouldn't bother using them. They're only going to alienate established fans.

Their power levels should be in alignment with how they have been portrayed. Which is far superior to CW Earth 38 kryptonians.

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@frozen: How is Routh Superman more powerful than CW Supergirl?

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Routh Superman should be éven more powerful than before since he's more experienced etc

Tho I expect the cw to make Kara the strongest kryptonian by far in this crossover

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@the_hajduk: He is the same Superman from Superman The Movie and Superman II. He reversed time twice and had a number of silver age moments.

In Superman Returns, he lifts an island made out of kryptonite. She's not shown herself capable of lifting an entire island, let alone one made out of kryptonite. Superman IV is no longer canon, but it provides insight into that Reeve era version - he easily moves The Moon in that film, something which E38 kryptonians are not capable of doing.

Not only is he more powerful than CW Supergirl, but he is also more powerful than the comic book Supergirl. An older Kingdom Come version of Routh is going to be even more powerful. An aged up Reeve/Routh Superman should be far more powerful due to the extra sunlight.

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@eobard21: Since Routhman is older, he should be considerably more powerful than his younger self.

However I wouldn't put it past the CW to go the girl power route and make Routh and Welling into Jobbermen.

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@frozen: Yeah lol

Look at what they did to Supes to make her look more powerful than him..

It will go like this imo

Kara>Routh supes>Welling supes

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@eobard21 said:

Hopefully they don't do my boi Barry dirty

LOL, i hope so.

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#191  Edited By Olubummo

@eobard21:

They made it look as if Supergirl is more powerful than Supes because it's her SHOW, i don't think they will do that during Cross-over. Remember, in Elseworlds she couldn't handle Monitor Book, she had to give it to Supes.

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@olubummo: He better be fast affff

Also ur right about supes but still..he better not job

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@eobard21:

LMAO, i guess we just have to wait to see what happens.

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#194 the_stegman  Moderator

Geez guys. Can we just leave the "muh feats!" Talk behind for a second?

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#195  Edited By Frozen

@the_stegman: Fair enough.

So narratively speaking, I'm not expecting Routh's KC Superman to be the jaded version from the comic. I mean he literally says "hope is the light that lifts us out of darkness" in the trailer and the cast described him as the "golden era" Superman, so he'll be similarly optimistic to the original film canon Superman.

I'm just interested how this will be reconciled with this Superman's backstory. The set photo newspaper confirms that The Joker massacred the Daily Planet and it's highly likely that Lois died, so Superman maintaining his optimistic/heroic attitude is going to be interesting. I hope this backstory isn't just glossed over or mentioned in passing. I'm also curious as to whether they will also address Superman's son from the Returns movie.

I'm guessing Welling will have a cameo, but I'm really hoping we see him wear the Superman suit.

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#196 the_stegman  Moderator

@frozen:

I'm of two minds about Routh Superman. Apart of me wants the jaded KC Supes. And maybe after Joker's massacre, he was that, but got through it and went back to the hopeful one we see in the trailer? I dunno. Don't expect to see much backstory from him as they have alot to tell, but it's fascinating to see what has happened to this Supes all these years later.

As for Welling. I know he's notoriously against the suit. I'm going to guess he's not going to wear it. But if he did that might be the highlight of the entire crossover haha.

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@frozen said:

@the_hajduk: Because they ARE more powerful than CW characters?

Why should "fan service" characters from established media be made weaker than CW versions? Its disrespectful and lazy to those beloved versions of the character. The same reason CW botched Superman in making him weaker than CW Kara. It was a disrespectful decision.

Smallville Superman has a decade worth of TV source material along with his own comic series. Routh is playing an older version of the beloved Reeve Superman - the most iconic Superman.

So neither of these characters should be made into jobbers to appease CW fans. If the CW wants to make them jobbers, they shouldn't bother using them. They're only going to alienate established fans.

Their power levels should be in alignment with how they have been portrayed. Which is far superior to CW Earth 38 kryptonians.

I wouldn't think of Routh superman as the same canon as Reeves Superman. The CW ha no authority there. He's his own thing as far as I am concerned even if Brandon Routh is playing him.

Tom Welling might be a different story. With how the CW is who knows what will happen.

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#198  Edited By Frozen

@jashro44: Marc Guggenheim stated he is Reeve Superman on Twitter, so they had permission from Warner Bros TV department.

https://i.imgur.com/Ioxldqf.jpg

Even if you ignore that, Superman Returns was a sequel to Superman II. It erased Superman III, IV and Supergirl (1984) out of continuinity.

Prior to its release it was said to he a quasi sequel of sorts, but upon the film's release it has clear references to Superman I and II.

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@the_stegman: You're probably right. He started off as the more jaded version but then reverted back to his more hopeful self. I'm hopeful that we will see more poignant moments with him.

As to Welling, it would be the best thing if we saw him don the Superman suit. One of the show runners said that there is a scene with all 3 Superman in it, so I'm hoping we see Welling don the suit.

If he does wear it, I wonder if it will be the same costume from the Season 11 comics. He had a great costume in that series.

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@frozen:

Because they ARE more powerful than CW characters?

Why should "fan service" characters from established media be made weaker than CW versions? Its disrespectful and lazy to those beloved versions of the character. The same reason CW botched Superman in making him weaker than CW Kara. It was a disrespectful decision.

I don't think show runners would see it like that. Take DCEU Supes for example. CW Kryptonians are more powerful than DCEU ones. Now, if Cavill were ever to appear during a crossover, do you think they'd ever portray him noticeably inferior to CW Kryptonians? No.

I think all Kryptonains are going to be portrayed on roughly on same level. With maybe Routhman having an edge on everyone because of his age.