CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths Discussion Thread

@frozen: that would had not look well next to Kingdom Come Superman suit.

Funny how oliver just became the most powerful hero in the arrowverse lmao

@the_hajduk: That's now what Superor was talking about, I think. He was wondering how if E-90 Flash was powering the weapon, and stopped powering it, how it got its power to destroy every universe.

Mine is a completely different thing lol

@eobard21: What do you mean nothing’s changed

@babyholdmyhand: Can't possibly look as bad as Hoechlin did next to KC Supes. He looked like a crap cosplayer.

Antimatter is now the answer to any question or plothole about Crisis.

Lex replacing Superman physically hurt to see.

@the_man_with_questions: It was frustrating for sure. At least we got a cool durability feat out of it. He resisted anti matter wave before caving in, whereas the other Supes and characters were instantly erased.

I'm sure he and the others will be back though, I just hope it's in time for the final battle and not after the fact.

I liked the scène between AM and Novu

It clearly showed that those two are far above anyone else

@frozen: Yes and no. Lucifer was first introduced in Neil Gaiman's Sandman, and was a recurring character there. His status in Carey's Lucifer reflects his development in Sandman, which is substantial. Nevertheless, there is a Sandman Presents: the Morningstar Option three issue mini-series that bridges the gap between Sandman and Carey's Lucifer; said mini-series was also written by Carey himself.

And anytime.

@morpheus_: 2018 Lucifer run actually references the Spectre run in the 90s when the Spectre was searching for God.

Is Lucifer alive or not though?

Lucifer Morningstar ?

So, Oliver is Spectre, every Earth is destroyed and Kevin Conroy killed Superman. Why did they have to take a month off....

And this Lex just keeps getting better and better.

@eobard21: What power lvl would u give to Jefferson Pierce ? Even if this feat would be outlier ( but u know equal to Flash's thunders etc. )

@watermelon47: I mean Luci isn't really a hero is he ?

And ollie just became the spectre

@watermelon47: probably a mid tier

Even tho his feat against flash was great

So Oliver is most powerful.

Then i give E-167 Superman, then 38-Supergitl, E-1 Flash, E-96 Superman ( if Reeve tetralogy feats counts ) then E-38 Martian Manhunter

@watermelon47: it's something like that

Ollie as the spectre>>>Kc supes>Supergirl/flash>superman earth 38

Tho Barry and Kara will be more powerful than KC supes at the end of the crisis

@watermelon47: Probably not as powerful as Luci and his family tho..

@morpheus_: Thanks mate I will check them out and start with Sandman when I get the chance.

@eobard21: @watermelon47:

Oliver as the spectre >>>> Mxy and Music Meister >>>> Mallus and Beebo >>>> The Thinker >>>> KC Superman

@eobard21: We'll see how the AM ends. I think he will just get severely weakened and taken out, which would be cool to see but wouldn't say much about power.

KC Supes may deliver the killing blow, the same way Kal L did in the Crisis comic. Kal L was the original Superman, and KC is arguably the original cinematic/movie superhero (or at least the first financially successful version). It would be an interesting throwback.

However I think its unlikely, as it's an Arrowverse show first and foremost, so one of those characters will kill AM. Probably Flash or Oliver.

i hope this won't be Batwoman.

I am fine if Ollie, Kara, Barry or J'onn or 167th Kal-el will do it etc. but please no Kate

@the_hajduk: The thinker above KC supes ?

@frozen: Honestly it would be amazing to see KC supes beating him or giving him the final blow but it will most likely be Oliver as the spectre or Barry doing the infinite mass punch that will take him down

@eobard21: Agreed.

At this point I think Routh should have his own Superman show. He's stated that he would love to do that and reactions to his portrayal of Superman have been far more positive than Hoechlin's.

In an absoloutely ideal world, he would get a mini-series on HBO Max, lol.

It may siphon extra energy than what is needed to power the machine so it has extra energy to destroy the universe if stopped. As for why he is doing it slowly probably just typical supervillain actions of wanting to prolong things to watch the heroes suffer. Plus him draining thr Monitor seems to take a while so it may be biding time till he successfully drains him.

@frozen: for Clois and Clark should've been his show

He's so good at supes

I mean in not everyone 2 epi, he became my fav supes lol

There's something great about this superman

He stole the show

Awee man, well that sucks. I hope Routh is lying. Neither of them have the S on the back of his cape yet the other guy brings up a good point, it's either another Superman or Tom's then.

@eobard21: Thinker was practically omnipotent on Earth.

This crossover got us all talking and I love it

1. Chris Reeves Superman being Kingdom Come Superman is brilliant and heartfelt, as played by Routh. And I loved how he explained why there is black on his S.

2. Referencing the fight in Superman 3 against himself was pure fan service and I loved it.

3. eff'n Jim Corrigan and The Spectre...I thought for sure they would never in a billion years touch on that biblical nature but they did and they've earned my respect a trillion times over for it. Marvel pansied out of it with The Living Tribunal and anything higher tier. DC said, "We fix dat" in this Crisis on Infinite Earths.

4. The Ship on the lake in Purgatory was named the Amazo.

5. Harbinger from The Multiversity comic = awesome reference

6. Monitor calling Anti Monitor Mobius was awesome.

7. The Book of Destiny...oh my! heh (wonder how fans now take this, the book of Limbo in Final Crisis was actually Destiny's Book)

8. Effin' Lucifer helping out and being unbothered by it all was great and a solid showcase to what power he probably really has.

9. Oliver =/ new Spectre = bigger win.

10. The John Williams score gave me goosebumps.

They did such a great job, I am only saddened that this is on a TV series and not the plot point of the primary DC movie verse as the DC version of Infinity War.

@michaeljulius: The Ship named Amazo is not an Easter egg. Arrow S2 flashback villain was Anthony Ivo. And his ship was named Amazo. It's the same ship.

I was just mentioning that it was cool and on my top ten moments.

U know omnipotence is sth what doesn't exist. Ur versatile and hax but not allmighty but hard to be taken down

@michaeljulius: Ah okay.

Harbinger was from the actual comics COIE long before Multiversity, she has everything down but the mask part and she had longer hair in the books. They killed her in the animated movie based off the comic Batman/Superman Apocalypse. I don't remember if they killed her in the book though.

Next epi

Reverse flash is here

Barry might become the enbodiment of the speedforce itself

Spectre+ paragaons vs AM

AM will win again

Mobius and Novu backstory

You know Thawne and Barry are going to face off yet again at some point.

I don't understand Lucifer, never seen his show, so what's his deal ? Is he the actual Devil from catholic/christian religion walking on Earth ? He doesn't seem evil from the clips/ads I see here and there, and he seems to deal with police stuff, so that's weird.

Is he omnipotent ? How does the show deal with an omnipotent character ?

@johnsmjs36: Lucifer is dead or at least knocked out unless stated or shown otherwise.

@kudlak-sin: But it seems he knew about the Multiverse Ending and just didn't care. And according to Tom Ellis the script has Lucifer just before the incident with Delilah.

I just can't wait for one of you to create a revised power ranking thread for the DCCW, now that most DC properties/shows/movies are a part of it baring the DCEU, Watchmen movieverse etc.

The coolest fan service now would be to see the Winchesters and that Black Impala on the show.

I wonder if HBO's Watchmen is in the same Multiverse

@revold: There was a billboard of the show in the opening sequence of Earth 666

I was kind of disappointed with the first part, but the next two definitely made up for it. Rah hyped for the next parts.

Or Gotham? Probably not but if it was probably got wiped out lol

I really would like to see fight on psionic combat between my boi Martian in his true Martian form vs Anti-Monitor. Like Mindhaxes or shapeshifting sth like Malefic destroy Supergirl's cape etc. Or phasing etc. Because he has decent dimensional psionic feats across S4 and S5.