CONFIRMATION!, MCU 838 Captain Marvel is Just as powerful as 616 Captain Marvel.

From Marvel's New Behind the scene Featurette

Producer implies 838 captain marvel shares the same statement/hype as 616 Captain marvel as being the strongest hero in the universe when being introduced into the mcu, inferring that they have similar power levels.

I guess there's no more discourse about this then.

There was no Thor and Hulk and Iron Man in universe 838, Strange got killed, and all other heroes have already been killed by Wanda before facing Cap Marvel, so her being the strongest at that point in time makes sense. So this statement means nothing

Just because you're one of the two most powerful beings in the 838 universe doesn't make you as powerful as the equivalent titleholder in 616. False Equivalence fallacy. I'm not saying that 838 Captain Marvel is weaker than 616 Captain Marvel, but I'm just saying this doesn't prove anything. She could be far weaker than 616 Captain Marvel and still be stronger than everyone else in 838.

Nah it definitely is, I get what you're saying but they've been using the similarity to 616 universe to speak for their characters for every interview and featurettes they've been in, only noting when there's supposed to be a difference between the characters ( like 838 being a less powerful 616 Wanda), which was already obvious in Captain Marvel's case as they had the same origin and source of power, with 616 CM not getting any known upgrade in the mcu yet to indicate or even suggest a difference in power level, so the statement he made here is from the hype that has been built around 616 CM. I'll try to post the full thing.

> Most powerful in the universe.

> They're in 838 universe and both are 838 variants

> Both have unquantifiable and lame feats

This has nothing to do with 616, and that would only mean it is superior to 838

It was also implied in the movie that 616 Wanda and Strange are the strongest versions of themselves. Strange by beating the Darkhold corrupted version of himself, have overcome the souls of the damned while staying sane, and he proved Illuminati wrong.

If that was true then 616 cm would also be statue level.. bruh not true.

Lmaoooo😂

The desperation of this post and all it does it make comic Carol look like statue level fodder if it were true.

Y'all wanted canon hints and confirmations so bad and now that it is here, y'all wanna argue that too...?.

Two strongest beings in the universe isn't saying much when there's no one else around you besides you two. Not to mention if we're going off of shitty statements Spider-Man is equal to Hulk Thena can give Captain Marvel a good fight and Shang with the 10 rings is Thor and Hulk level

No, that has been explained in canon too.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/confirmation-mcu-wanda-absorbed-captain-marvels-po-2267516/

@aystarr: Again, the producer was only talking about 838 and the post has nothing to do with 616.

Sure, they are some of the strongest beings in their universe, but inferior to 616 in comparison (feats, implication and statements).

No he wasn't, you keep arguing about something you have absolutely no context of and when it is being explained to you, still with no knowledge of the context, you refuse it, is this a form of willful ignorance or what?.

Lol. That's not what the tweet says OP. Also wow 838 is weak if room level is their best. No wonder they were doomed against Thanos.

Still solo'd by gravity and a statue.

Also wasn't Carol, Maria's supposed equal depowered during this?

I mean if that didn't kill her while depowered maybe Carol just has higher base stats? That is to say they're not equals in power.

@mahfire: Duh, it's obvious.

These may be the two most powerful beings in Earth 838? But with that kind of logic, the strongest things in 616 are

- Mjolnir

- Hulk

- Iron Man armor

@aystarr:

So Thanos large ship can be taken down by rock statue ? Jesus MCU hit the rock bottom.

This franchise was dumpsterfire rom beginning of Phase 3, but that dumpsterfire i had no idea

Not to mention...if Black Bolt could destroy Wanda with a whisper...

Sure she is guy. Trust

I was expecting a better quote to be honest, i wouldn't agree

Are you just finding out there are different levels to which power can be absorbed?, as the producers implied, Wanda Absorbed enough to make her vulnerable, it's not the same as what's happening to carol here and nowhere does it says they were depowered to the same level. Y'all are arguing against canon atp.

Nice find

@vegito315:

If those statement are from producer, director people in charge of choice then “yes” they matter!

“statements Spider-Man is equal to Hulk”

Never heard or seen that one before! Either way don’t think they ever would made those 2 fights in the mcu!

No feats and story wise context back up that!

“Thena can give Captain Marvel a good fight”

It means that whoever will made that fight choreography happen will put on some dr strange vs Spider-Man win by geometry contrivance plot. If Thena won. But I can see more of a what if Thor vs Marvel so Thena having a big upgrades.

Don’t know if people unfamiliar with Ironman before Avengers 2012 though he could put up a fight with a god. Same things if those 2 warriors ever fight.

“and Shang with the 10 rings is Thor and Hulk level”

He is not there, let see if those statement are back up in the sequels and how more OP Shang feats going be or maybe Downplay the rings powers.

Ironman fought and keep up with Thor in a early suit made in earth and could blast Loki feet away.

I don’t see why not a mystical artifacts more than 1000+ could not do the same. Plus more likely not seen the full powers.

They share the same origin, source of power, comparison and hype, regardless of who you think would come out the victor between both of them in a battle or when going deep into details, it's very clear that they are meant to be in the same range.

Thats just a bad look for 616 captain marvel then

What hype? And how do you know they share same origin in a Universe where Inhumans, Mutants. Fantastic Four exist?

The difference between Wanda and CM is our CM doesn't have any notable upgrade yet so there's nothing to suggest an inferior version of the character with the same origin and source of power, your superman comparison doesn't work here at all as different versions of superman are from different media projects, such as different animation or different LA or different issues, not from the same media that are linked to each other, there's always an explanation given for anyone that contains two versions of the character in the same project with different power levels, either by one having upgrades due to any form of enhancement or just unlocking new level of power, or the other being weakened. Sometimes they don't even have different power level and one can just be better than the other from experience, training or just having no morals.

Wanda, Thor, Iron man e.t.c for example are characters that can have notable power differences between universes in the mcu as they're characters that have gone through different upgrades, Wanda with her magic progression, Thor with his Godhood progression and iron man with his suit progression in movies, these are characters with confirmed power level variation from their base/introductory form in such a way that another version of their character can exist in another universe with that version not acheiving the progression or upgrades our main ones have yet, something that carol doesn't have, which means that our MCU 616 carol is still operating on the power level she got from her origin, which is the same thing Maria has here.

The only way this can be refuted is if there's a confirmed alternation in the origin of maria to suggest that she's doesn't have the same introductory power level as MCU 616 CM which isn't the case here, confirmed by the producers in the OP ( making all this comparison of maria to even 616 CM a disadvantage to Maria as we were not introduced to her from the start and there's a possibility we would have no idea if she even has some advancement carol doesn't, but we're gonna settle for this for now to stick to Canon showings lol).

The production team using the hype around MCU 616 CM to describe Maria (also seen in the OP above) just seals it. I don't know why this is hard for y'all to understand, it's very simple.

If I could, I would, they are in paragraphs for a reason.

Strange got impale on a fence. Their durability is Human level when is not power up with magic or they are shoot with a blast.

Cope, still Statue Level Fodder

As if they would make 838 Maria "room level" lmao

She is fodder lmao

Yeah no. She was crushed by a statue. Carol would stomp her.

No

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/confirmation-mcu-wanda-absorbed-captain-marvels-po-2267516/

@superdarth : writer statements > yours

@aystarr: I refuse to debate with you.

She’s fodder.

You can't "debate" canon facts, it was never a debate luv.

Ok Wanda stan.

????, It's ok to admit you've been proven wrong, this is unnecessary lol