Characters who get the "No Limits Fallacy" argument the most?

In general, which characters do you think are most prone to getting the "No Limits Fallacy" argument? I'll start:

DCCU/DCEU Doomsday

Hancock

Any character illustrated by Kubo.

Was gonna say DCEU Doomsday.

Hulk

Juggernaut

@captain_batman_ftw: 616 versions for both I take it?

Batman

@maxxcveiler: I've actually never seen Bats get it, but I wouldn't be surprised. Problem is, most people either oversell or undersell the character. Very few seem to be able to give Batman his exact due without going too far or not far enough.

Dr. Manhattan (though probably not as much as before)

Hancock

Flash in my opinion. Somehow it feels like Flash (according to his supporters) can use his abilities on any character irrespective of who they are. Such as speed stealing for example.

Batman

Screwattack Superman (sometimes regular Superman too)

Hulk

Flash

Saitama (Though to be fair that is the entire point of the character)

The Dragonborn when using Mehrunes Razor (just personal opinion)

Ywach, Saitama

Also not a battle.

Anime characters in general. Japan doesn't seem to care as much about coherency as they do about feelings, as a result their fiction comes out less logical than American work. Those gaps in information are the reason NLFs exist, so it would stand to reason these works are more prone to containing NLFs

Anything DBZ

Hulk

Thor

Itachi with the Yata Mirror/Totsuka Blade

@thelocust619: I have the exact opposite opinion to this. Anime/Manga is far more consistent because of the low writer count and makes more sense as a whole. Comics are far more NLF and outlandish.

I think it's safe to say most of everyone hates Accelerator on the battle forum.

Person 1: Can he stop a blast from PR Beyonder?

Accelawank: Does it have vectors?

Person 1: Has he ever stopped at Multiversal Blast? Is his vector control that powerful?

Accelawank: Does the Multiversal have vectors?

Accelerator off the top of my head

@mr_ingenuity: @blackestnight93: Kubo gets this a lot huh? I assume this Kubo of the Two Strings?

@nomar:I think both statements are gross over-generalizations. Some Anime is more outlandish, some comics are more outlandish. Also, outlandish and inconsistent are not the same thing.

Avada kedavra.

@shroudofsorrow: Tite Kubo & his bleach absolutes.

@razminr11: Spell not a character, but yeah, I can definitely see that. I'd imagine some other attacks get this too.

Spider-Man

How?

@blackestnight93: Given that we've never seen the upper durability limit for ASM Spider-Man, I wouldn't be surprised if that version got this now and again. We never saw his upper agility limit either, or even necessarily his upper strength limit. So he would be vulnerable to this.

I can't say I've ever seen an NLF argument when it comes to spider-man

@blackestnight93: Well, that's good to know. He's always been my favorite, so I'd rather people not saddle him with that or any other fallacy.

Franklin Richards in addition to several of the others mentioned.

@ganstaz003: Flash does has limits. He can't affect people who control their personal time field.

He's speed stolen from a planet. Every human on Earth. A being who had the combined powers of the jla.

Since he's done all that....at what level do you think his powers stop working?

Imo, if a person below Galactus or Celestial level has not shown resistance to TP, matter manipulation, speed steal etc. Then they don't have it.

Yep.

Also, strange, I didn't get a notification.

Also, Superman and Death Battle Superman. lol

@captain_batman_ftw: Agreed.

Though to be fair, DBZ characters get this from a lot of people too, hence why those Troll-Fest debates drag ever on.

Thanos

Odin

IG

And others...

good day

Saltama.

The Hulk. Because someone can get...infinitely angry..and thus infinitely strong? despite anger being unquantifiable.

Flash , Hulk , Saitama, Thanos(durability), Magneto , SA superman .

@nomar: I completely agree with you.

Accelerator.

Saitama,Accelerator,Superman,sometimes Naruto and dbz characters

@blackestnight93 said:

You kiddin'? People are always like, "Oh, Peter can move at ∞ miles per hour because we've never seen his upper limits." It's infuriating. That's why Spider-Man is banned on Comic Vine.

I'd say Hulk, Saitama, and recently genjitsu by itachi are the most common. One that i never see countered is Sugar's, ability from one piece,

Saitama and anything from Harry Potter

Also Tsukuyomi. I know because I'm a firm supporter of it xD

@cor_tsar: Um, but Sugar's ability is way too easy to counter. You just have to have reality warping resistance.

Anyway, Saitama.

• Saitama is like the god of this category.
• Harry Potter characters and their spells fall into this category as well..Despite their very limited reaction time and the lack of any perceived limits in their magic(Despite common sense) they are assumed to be able to their own against characters with at the very least sound speed, and bullet resistant durability..When their basic ass feats would tell you otherwise.
• And Superman is mistakenly lumped into this category despite showing obvious limitations in his power countless times in the comics.

Midnighter... or more specifically his "battle computer "

Hulk, Saitama and Juggernaut.