Can Vegetto and Gogeta do Ultra Instinct? Can they do everything Goku can?

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Poll Can Vegetto and Gogeta do Ultra Instinct? Can they do everything Goku can? (8 votes)

Yes they can tap into UI 63%
No they cannot use UI 25%
Results 13%

There's an argument that Vegetto/Gogeta are different people from Goku, and mastering Ultra Instinct was something very particular for Goku. He is the only non angel being in the multiverse to do it.

There is also the argument that since Vegeta is not suited to UI, he would actually hold his fusions back from understanding the technique.

But I always thought that Vegetto and Gogeta were just almighty gigachads who could do everything that Goku can do. What do you think?

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Yes they can as they are Goku

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#2  Edited By gelato_exotic

If Goku and Vegeta fused again in the future they should be able to. Gogeta Blue obviously wasn't able to because Goku had a pisspoor grasp on it at the time.

I know it's from Heroes and doesn't correlate to the main timeline, but both Vegito and Gogeta have in fact used Kaioken which is Goku exclusive. And Vegito was using both Goku and Vegeta exclusive techniques with no difficulty (Big Bang Attack, Kamehameha, and Instant Transmission).

Also in this Daizenshuu entry Vegito is said to an absolute master at Ki control and Ki techniques. But then again both Kid Goku and Vegeta have used Ki barriers in canon before, but you get the point. Vegito's skill level>>>>his counterparts, and there's no plausible reason he wouldn't have access to Ultra Instinct, especially while one of his counterparts has completely mastered it at this point in time.

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I disagree, UI requires a special state of mind, Goku's mind can achieve that state. However, we don't really know how a fusion's mind work, there's nothing telling us that this new mind, which is in part Vegeta, can achieve that state of mind seeing Vegeta can't.

tl;dr: Vegeta's mind may be getting in the way of them achieving UI

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They potentially could, but only if Vegeta was able to learn and harness UI.

Until Vegeta can manage UI, he is throwing off the requirement for fusion to use UI. At best they could probably do a mild UI like Beerus could, but accessing the actual form... not for now.

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#5 takenstew22  Moderator

The fusions can tap into it. Vegeta just needs to learn UI.

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The fusions can tap into it. Vegeta just needs to learn UI.

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#7 cocacolaman  Moderator

IIRC fusions are the best aspects of their two parts.

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Possibly. If Vegeta learns it too however I think.