Can this punch knock MCU Cap out if he doesn't have his shield?
Actually being able to be sent flying will help to survive the hit. If Cap was chained to the spot and forced to absorb the hit fully then he might die.
But yes it should knock him out. Not for very long though.
Given what happened when Winter Soldiers knocked him off the highway into a bus there is an argument to be made he woukd be knocked out by that with his shield. He wpuld not stay down for long though.
First thought was yes, but after thinking about it for a while I actually think it wouldn't. MCU Cap has some really incredible strength and durability feats that arguably put him in MCU Spider-Man's league.
What feats?
KOed for a while like the WS Highway scene. Maybe KOed for a longer duration compared to that.
When was he KOed then.
If you're asking if Cap was KOed in the highway scene then yeah he was. After he was blasted away through and into the bus, he was out for a while until he woke up momemts before they started firing on him with the multibarrel gun.
KOed for a while like the WS Highway scene. Maybe KOed for a longer duration compared to that.
@amcu: Stopping a car from falling of a cliff, lifting a very large steel beam of Bucky, trading bare-handed blows with a pissed of Iron Man, being blown of a bridge and sent flyling through a bus, falling dozens of meters on several occasions and getting right back up like he barely felt it, kicking a big car and moving it far and fast enough to send a man flying and according to Agents of Shield he can push an enormous excavating machine (or something like it) while running (faster than a guy who can easily jump through a concrete ceiling).
@janjukbma: Believe it or not, Shocked actually has better striking feats than iron man
@jashro44: thoughts?
@jashro44: thoughts?
Cpas never been hit this hard before. I say he gets knocked out.
@lfrankthetank27: I believe it, don't worry. But Iron Man hit Cap again and again, over and over and Cap kept getting up.
He has zero feats taking a hit like that.
He would die.
What about the RPG scene ? Although he had his shield..
@amcu: Stopping a car from falling of a cliff, lifting a very large steel beam of Bucky, trading bare-handed blows with a pissed of Iron Man, being blown of a bridge and sent flyling through a bus, falling dozens of meters on several occasions and getting right back up like he barely felt it, kicking a big car and moving it far and fast enough to send a man flying and according to Agents of Shield he can push an enormous excavating machine (or something like it) while running (faster than a guy who can easily jump through a concrete ceiling).
Iron Man kinda seemed nerfed there to be honest.
As far as everything else you said all of that stuff is very impressive but it doesn't come close matching up to MCU Spider-Man or to Shocker's gauntlets. The most comparable thing to Shockers punches that Steve has been hit with is the grenade that KOed him. Steve is very impressive in his own right but Peter is in another league physically. There is a very big difference in the way they are portrayed. This is what Steve does.
This is what Peter does.
@amcu: The grenade KOed him? I didn't remember that. If it's true than I stand corrected, that hit would most likely knock him out.
As for the strength: Alright, probably not really in Spidey's league but still, not completely outclassed, considering the statement from AoS. (If that counts, since it wasn't really an on-screen feat.)
@janjukbma: Yeah the he was off screen for like a minute or so when he was hit with the grenade and when he came back he looked like he had been knocked out. I don't see why pushing a 60 ton bulldozer would even be Steve's best strength feat. Pushing is way easier than lifting. I doubt that feat is any better than lifting the beam off of Bucky. I also don't see how its remotely impressive in comparison to what Peter has done.
@amcu: As someone who has been working out for several years, I agree, pushing something is usually far easier than lifting. But all those great feats of professional strength athletes pushing/pulling heavy things are usually done with things on wheels (planes, trucks, etc) or in the water (ships). This bulldozer on the other hand was obviously standing still, since Mike Peterson left big marks in the grass where he was training. The - I'm sorry, I don't know the word in English - moving mechanism of the bulldozer isn't moving at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pnOXuRI0vM It should also be noted that there are many really strong guys who can move these things, but I've never seen one running while doing so. And Cap must've been going much faster than Mike. ("Not even close.")
@janjukbma: You're right that the Bulldozers treads weren't moving but I just don't think its Steve's best feat. I believe lifting that support beam off of Bucky is better. I think someone calculated that based off of its size it would weigh over ten tones. I imagine dead-lifting something that weighs ten tones after a beating from the Winter Soldier, being grassed by one bullet, stabbed in the shoulder, and shot through various areas of the body three times would be better than pushing a 60 ton bulldozer. Don't get me wrong that's still a great very Superhuman feat I just don't think its Steve's best. I could be wrong but I also don't think it really puts him in the same category of strength as Spider-Man(I imagine Peter would have picked up the bulldozer).
@amcu: Agreed, that actually seems more impressive, now that I think about it. I also saw a calculation about the steel beam feat on YouTube, but I didn't remember how heavy it was (according to the video). While I also agree that it doesn't quite put him in Spidey's league, I don't think he would be able to pick it up (depending on what you mean by picking it up). Lift one side of it? Sure. Topple it? Why not. But lifting the whole thing? The aerobridge Cap dropped on him in Civil War was estimated to be 27 tons and he was really struggling there.
@janjukbma: Yeah you may be right about Peter. I think he might have gotten stronger in Spider-Man Homecoming though.
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