Can Goku and Vegeta breathe in space?

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I always thought they could but

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Supposedly In the new issue of the DBS manga seem like they retconned that. Muro and the grand supreme Kai fought in space and Goku and Vegeta couldn't help because they couldn't breathe in space.

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They never could...

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#3  Edited By MainJP

They've never been able to breathe in space, where'd you get that from?

Of all the reasons to cry "retcon", this ain't one of them...

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Their ki protects them.

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Bruh, why is the idea behind sayians being able to breathe in space so inconsistent?

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So if Lord Frieza was in space and busted Earth, would Goku and Vegeta die? or would they put up some ki shield to give themselves oxygen for them to breathe in after Earth is destroyed?

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No, because Frieza plan when he was going to destroy Namek was that Goku would suffocate in space since he can breathe in space

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They've always had this limitation, although I thought them gaining god ki would help in that regard. Doesn't look like that's the case unfortunately.

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#9  Edited By baph

Pretty sure it was already confirmed in that 17 and Goku episode, which is canon to the anime.

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Aren't Goku fought beerus I space ?

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They've never been able to survive in space. That's why frieza was going to destroy namek when he fought goku and why vegeta died when he blew up the earth in the resurrection f arc/movie.

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Aren't Goku fought beerus I space ?

They were in Earth's exosphere where there's still air to breathe.

Their ki protects them.

Headcanon.

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@arranvid: In ressurection of F Frieza literally busted earth and Vegeta died becuse he couldn't breath in space.

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@arranvid: In ressurection of F Frieza literally busted earth and Vegeta died becuse he couldn't breath in space.

We didnt see what happened to vegeta, thats just headcanon.

Aren't Goku fought beerus I space ?

I thought the same, but i think they were in atmosphere

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Kid Goku put boss rabbit on the moon. Even back then he could at least hold his breath and tolerate space

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@mainjp: Ki creates a force field. We saw it in battle of the gods.

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#18  Edited By ArranVid

So if Goku and Vegeta can't breathe in space...then Lord Frieza did a silly thing in the Frieza Saga by fighting on Earth right? he could've just travelled into space in his Final Form and busted Earth like he did to Planet Vegeta and Goku and Vegeta would be dead...or did Lord Frieza not do that because he needed the Dragonballs?

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#19  Edited By Juggerman40

@arranvid said:

So if Goku and Vegeta can't breathe in space...then Lord Frieza did a silly thing in the Frieza Saga by fighting on Earth right? he could've just travelled into space in his Final Form and busted Earth like he did to Planet Vegeta and Goku and Vegeta would be dead...or did Lord Frieza not do that because he needed the Dragonballs?

Yeah man I always wondered that too the villains that can breath in space, why don't they just fly up to the point Goku or Vegeta can't reach them nuke the planet and that's that.

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@mattyboi: It's not head canon it was stated on screen by Whis.

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#21  Edited By MetalJimmor

@arranvid said:

So if Goku and Vegeta can't breathe in space...then Lord Frieza did a silly thing in the Frieza Saga by fighting on Earth right? he could've just travelled into space in his Final Form and busted Earth like he did to Planet Vegeta and Goku and Vegeta would be dead...or did Lord Frieza not do that because he needed the Dragonballs?

Frieza and King Cold actually talk about doing exactly this. Blowing up Earth and leaving.

They decided against it because Frieza was confident his new form was enough to kill Goku and he wanted to do it up close and personal. Frieza is an odd mix of prideful and cowardly. He'll fight face to face any time he thinks he'll win and resort to cowardly tactics when he realizes he misjudged the situation and is about to lose.

Frieza tried to blow up Namek to kill Goku. He tried to blow up Earth to kill Trunks and failed. He succeeded in blowing up Earth to kill Vegeta in Super. He never leads with the easy win. Its always his last resort.

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@arranvid said:

So if Goku and Vegeta can't breathe in space...then Lord Frieza did a silly thing in the Frieza Saga by fighting on Earth right? he could've just travelled into space in his Final Form and busted Earth like he did to Planet Vegeta and Goku and Vegeta would be dead...or did Lord Frieza not do that because he needed the Dragonballs?

Frieza and King Cold actually talk about doing exactly this. Blowing up Earth and leaving.

They decided against it because Frieza was confident his new form was enough to kill Goku and he wanted to do it up close and personal. Frieza is an odd mix of prideful and cowardly. He'll fight face to face any time he thinks he'll win and resort to cowardly tactics when he realizes he misjudged the situation and is about to lose.

Frieza tried to blow up Namek to kill Goku. He tried to blow up Earth to kill Trunks and failed. He succeeded in blowing up Earth to kill Vegeta in Super. He never leads with the easy win. Its always his last resort.

Ah I see, I was thinking too that maybe Lord Frieza's arrogance was what made him not go for the easy route, thank you for your answer bud :-)

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@mattyboi: It's not head canon it was stated on screen by Whis.

I thought the same too

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Kid Goku put boss rabbit on the moon. Even back then he could at least hold his breath and tolerate space

Yeah that's a good point. I think Kid Goku used a power pole to get to the moon or something right?

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No they can't. In the very same chapter, Vegeta stopped Goku from flying out by reminding him that he'd die in space. They can incredibly near the edge but cam't go completely out.

So, they need oxygen... but only very little.

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i think they cant which sucks

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@arranvid said:

So if Lord Frieza was in space and busted Earth, would Goku and Vegeta die? or would they put up some ki shield to give themselves oxygen for them to breathe in after Earth is destroyed?

@arranvid said:

So if Goku and Vegeta can't breathe in space...then Lord Frieza did a silly thing in the Frieza Saga by fighting on Earth right? he could've just travelled into space in his Final Form and busted Earth like he did to Planet Vegeta and Goku and Vegeta would be dead...or did Lord Frieza not do that because he needed the Dragonballs?

@arranvid said:

So if Goku and Vegeta can't breathe in space...then Lord Frieza did a silly thing in the Frieza Saga by fighting on Earth right? he could've just travelled into space in his Final Form and busted Earth like he did to Planet Vegeta and Goku and Vegeta would be dead...or did Lord Frieza not do that because he needed the Dragonballs?

Yeah man I always wondered that too the villains that can breath in space, why don't they just fly up to the point Goku or Vegeta can't reach them nuke the planet and that's that.

You guys realize Frieza pretty much did this in RoF right? Whis had to turn back time to save them.

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They never could...

@mainjp said:

They've never been able to breathe in space, where'd you get that from?

Of all the reasons to cry "retcon", this ain't one of them...

Yep

@baph said:

Pretty sure it was already confirmed in that 17 and Goku episode, which is canon to the anime.

It's been confirmed since the Namek saga.

Bruh, why is the idea behind sayians being able to breathe in space so inconsistent?

It's not, they never had the ability to breath in space. Only filler scenes like Vegeta flying from one planet to another made it seem inconsistent. No canon material ever had them breath in space. (The fight with Beerus was in the upper atmosphere, not space).

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Goku's still lucky that he has IT, he can get out from such situations.

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@arranvid said:

So if Lord Frieza was in space and busted Earth, would Goku and Vegeta die? or would they put up some ki shield to give themselves oxygen for them to breathe in after Earth is destroyed?

@arranvid said:

So if Goku and Vegeta can't breathe in space...then Lord Frieza did a silly thing in the Frieza Saga by fighting on Earth right? he could've just travelled into space in his Final Form and busted Earth like he did to Planet Vegeta and Goku and Vegeta would be dead...or did Lord Frieza not do that because he needed the Dragonballs?

@juggerman40 said:
@arranvid said:

So if Goku and Vegeta can't breathe in space...then Lord Frieza did a silly thing in the Frieza Saga by fighting on Earth right? he could've just travelled into space in his Final Form and busted Earth like he did to Planet Vegeta and Goku and Vegeta would be dead...or did Lord Frieza not do that because he needed the Dragonballs?

Yeah man I always wondered that too the villains that can breath in space, why don't they just fly up to the point Goku or Vegeta can't reach them nuke the planet and that's that.

You guys realize Frieza pretty much did this in RoF right? Whis had to turn back time to save them.

I know that bro but my point was that Lord Frieza could've done that arcs ago!

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@arranvid: It was stated Frieza didn't want to do that due to his pride. Goku explained it himself.

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Pan In space

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Kid Goku goes to the Moon

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Bardock in space, all canon instances(Maybe besides the one with Pan).

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@joker567892: Pan and Bardock were in the upper atmosphere. Goku going to the moon was clearly a gag feat. He took 2 regular humans with him as well. Can regular humans survive in space now?

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@arranvid: It was stated Frieza didn't want to do that due to his pride. Goku explained it himself.

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Thanks :-)

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#36  Edited By noobsnowman

@mainjp: Actually, god ki can protect one and help them breathe in space, as Goku turned Blue to withstand the pressure from space and fly out to space to teleport 17 and the poacher boss to King Kai's planet.

Now whether he can breathe in space for the duration of maintaining Blue or for a very short period is uncertain, and I'm more convinced its the latter.

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#37  Edited By segamarvel