Poll Can DCEU Superman Tank this Mutant attack? (61 votes)
Supes has to stay put while the mutants unleash the same attack they unleashed onto Apocalypse onto him.
This lasts for 1 minute by the way.
Supes has to stay put while the mutants unleash the same attack they unleashed onto Apocalypse onto him.
This lasts for 1 minute by the way.
Superman is indestructible so obviously he can.
He got stabbed by Doomsday, so hes not.
Just a quickside note guys-
Dies imo.
A lot of people are underestimating Jean Grey, Supes doesnt tank Jean Grey attacking him by herself imo.
@tj849: lol.....apocalypse never showed superman level durability
@DammeFavour: Its in the damn wiki bro
@tj849: so? none of the attack he was hit with, even the phoenix was anywhere close to nuke level
@DammeFavour: Have you even watched the movie?
@tj849: i have. why? he got hit with a bunch of metals, lightning, cyclops and the phoenix. so what?
@DammeFavour: You're underestimating the power of the phoenix, also Magneto was doing more that just hitting him with a bunch of metals. Lightnings a lot more stronger than you're making it out. Wait what did you vote for?
Superman is indestructible so obviously he can.
He got stabbed by Doomsday, so hes not.
Just a quickside note guys-
superman only got stabbed by doomsday cause of the kryptonite
Well, he tanks Magneto, Storm and Cyclops' attacks; on the other hand, Jean-going-Phoenix' telepathic assault might be deciding factor in X-Men' favor.
Apocalypse has shown nowhere near level of durability as superman and its unclear how much of force that phoneix attack applies. The other attacks are not affectign at all.
100% true. The wank is horrible sometimes for him. Doomsday isnt surviving this let alone Supes.
Why? Apoc had shit durability compared doomsday and superman who tanked nukes. Any proofs phoneix attack was anything aboive nuke?
Dies imo.
A lot of people are underestimating Jean Grey, Supes doesnt tank Jean Grey attacking him by herself imo.
why? was it stated jean blast beeing more powerfull than a nuke? apoc had crap durability to assume that would harm superman.
@supermanforever: Yup, it takes more than a nuke to destroy Apocalypse
@bubbafarted: He was weakened by jean beforehand
even in the beginning, he needed tk shields to protect him from the pyramid collaspe. sup and dd has survived worse. apocalypse does not have superhuman durability. sup can survive the attack.
even in the beginning, he needed tk shields to protect him from the pyramid collaspe. sup and dd has survived worse. apocalypse does not have superhuman durability. sup can survive the attack.
It takes superhuman durability to not be Ko'd by QS punches. Those punches would pack tens to possibly even hundreds of tons of force behind each hit.
even in the beginning, he needed tk shields to protect him from the pyramid collaspe. sup and dd has survived worse. apocalypse does not have superhuman durability. sup can survive the attack.
Still has really strong armor, his durability is ok in this but comics wise its superhuman and dont forget about that accelerated healing factor. Jean in phoneix must've using cosmic abilities like reality warping etc. to completely turn him into nothing.
@bubbafarted: They'll expand on Jean in X-Men Dark Phoenix anyway
even in the beginning, he needed tk shields to protect him from the pyramid collaspe. sup and dd has survived worse. apocalypse does not have superhuman durability. sup can survive the attack.
It takes superhuman durability to not be Ko'd by QS punches. Those punches would pack tens to possibly even hundreds of tons of force behind each hit.
Exactly, Supes would get destroyed by the attack im sorry. Cheers for the info and thats the good QS as well.
real physics does not apply here. that is why people in the mansion didn't die from quick silver throwing them.
@bubbafarted: Qs controls the amount of force that he applies in super speed.
the people q.silver threw were moving faster than the explosion. real physics do not apply to him or his punches. those people saved should have died immediately upon impact.
sup no selled being thrown into a nuke proof safe.( the safe door and hinges were busted up) there are safes in ww2 that survived Hiroshima.
sup can survive this attack.
real physics does not apply here. that is why people in the mansion didn't die from quick silver throwing them.
This is true, but that is from him controlling the force he outputs. He was able to knock out full grown men by literally poking their cheeks. He is also much faster in Apocalypse. His real punch would contain enough punching power to knock someone out easily 100 times over.
the people that were thrown by quicksilver were traveling faster than the explosion. all should have died upon impact.
If a megaton level nuke couldn't atomize superman at point blank range then I don't see how this attack can. Don't say the mutant blast was megaton nuke level now. that would be ridiculous. The reason Apoc disabled nukes of the nations was because he can't tank it. Whether you like it or not. Superman survived a megaton power nuke to the face. Not many live action characters can do that.
I'm sure as hell magneto's flying scrap metal attack isn't doing shit to Supes since he tanks high calibre gunfire easily at point blank range. Same with Cyclops or storm's attack. Now phoenix is a problem. Is her attack matter manipulation? Can she affect nigh invulnerable guys like Superman cuz she doesn't have feats. Can superman survive matter manipulation? We haven't seen him face someone with that power. It's bit tough to judge
No he dies and no he didn't tank a nuke lmfao it KOED him, he's dealing with an attack that atomized Apocalypse which was standing up to temperatures that atomized metal, lightning, and Cylops's blasts at once. He goes down
@supermanforever: Yup, it takes more than a nuke to destroy Apocalypse
then proov it why? what has he done to assure that? bring single nuke level durability feat,
even in the beginning, he needed tk shields to protect him from the pyramid collaspe. sup and dd has survived worse. apocalypse does not have superhuman durability. sup can survive the attack.
It takes superhuman durability to not be Ko'd by QS punches. Those punches would pack tens to possibly even hundreds of tons of force behind each hit.
prove he hits several tons of power. or hits as hard as kryptonians. doomsday punches where not putting single scratch on Superman. All of this people claiming apoc can tank a nuke or superman level punches are loads of bs. no one seems to think feats are what prove things.
@bubbafarted: He can control how much force goes into his speed.
See the difference? If Quicksilver running down a hallway at a visible speed (we saw him) knocks out guards from mere force, then he wouldn't have needed to even touch the guards during the slow-motion scene (he was much faster during the bullet scene) because moving at such a speed would knock out everyone in a room. But, this time he is able to actually hit the guards, and their heads don't explode from the sheer force (they should have.) Fast forward to the mansion scene, and he is slamming kids on mattresses and throwing them out windows at speeds that are hundreds of times faster than the bullet scene, but the kids are fine. Quicksilver clearly controls how much power he exerts into his actions during superspeed. When he goes his slowest, everyone in a hallway is KO'd. Going his fastest, and he can throw people out windows without any trouble. Clearly he controls his force output.
No he dies and no he didn't tank a nuke lmfao it KOED him, he's dealing with an attack that atomized Apocalypse which was standing up to temperatures that atomized metal, lightning, and Cylops's blasts at once. He goes down
he was burned up, its arguably due to him beeing badly weakened after all kryptonite exposure. his scar on the face wasnt even healing at that point. Also prove apoc can atleast not get vaporized by nuke.
@bubbafarted: He can control how much force goes into his speed.
See the difference? If Quicksilver running down a hallway at a visible speed (we saw him) knocks out guards from mere force, then he wouldn't have needed to even touch the guards during the slow-motion scene (he was much faster during the bullet scene) because moving at such a speed would knock out everyone in a room. But, this time he is able to actually hit the guards, and their heads don't explode from the sheer force (they should have.) Fast forward to the mansion scene, and he is slamming kids on mattresses and throwing them out windows at speeds that are hundreds of times faster than the bullet scene, but the kids are fine. Quicksilver clearly controls how much power he exerts into his actions during superspeed. When he goes his slowest, everyone in a hallway is KO'd. Going his fastest, and he can throw people out windows without any trouble. Clearly he controls his force output.
that doesnt proof he is punching level of kryptonians who cause shockwaves with every punch and send you to the top skyscrapper.
take his body weight and multiply it by his speed. You'll see he hits with insane power. He is hitting Apoc with Hypersonic punches.
This is also back up by the way a tap from him is able to knock out fully grown men in a slower speed state. He could have hit with 100 times more power than that if not more.
take his body weight and multiply it by his speed. You'll see he hits with insane power. He is hitting Apoc with Hypersonic punches.
This is also back up by the way a tap from him is able to knock out fully grown men in a slower speed state. He could have hit with 100 times more power than that if not more.
how much does he weight? and how much was his speed when he hit apoc? Does he hit hard enough so that his hits topple couple of trains? No people here calling superman wank, but the real wank is thinking QS hits harder than dceu kryptonians and doomsday.
the actor weighs 77 kg. We don't have an official speed he went in that scene. We do have numerous clacs for his speed, but I see those as way too high. People have him between mach 1,000 - mach 3,000 in speed. In my opinion, that is way too high. In the scene we see him punch around human speed, but this was in his slow mo perception. We would have to find the speed of his perception. We see a honey bee flap its wings. It flaps 230 times a second, but it takes 4 seconds. It was going to take even longer, but we didnt see the whole flap. This would make him see events at least 920 times faster than humans. We say he punches at 20 mph in his slow perception. That would give him a punching speed of at least 18,400 mph or 8,225.5 m/s. Considering the Bee was slowing down every passing second and electricity was in slow mo as well, this would be a low estimate. This would give him punches generating 71 tons of force at least. If we use his speed Nerdist gives him of mach 135, he would hit with 401 tons per punch.
the actor weighs 77 kg. We don't have an official speed he went in that scene. We do have numerous clacs for his speed, but I see those as way too high. People have him between mach 1,000 - mach 3,000 in speed. In my opinion, that is way too high. In the scene we see him punch around human speed, but this was in his slow mo perception. We would have to find the speed of his perception. We see a honey bee flap its wings. It flaps 230 times a second, but it takes 4 seconds. It was going to take even longer, but we didnt see the whole flap. This would make him see events at least 920 times faster than humans. We say he punches at 20 mph in his slow perception. That would give him a punching speed of at least 18,400 mph or 8,225.5 m/s. Considering the Bee was slowing down every passing second and electricity was in slow mo as well, this would be a low estimate. This would give him punches generating 71 tons of force at least. If we use his speed Nerdist gives him of mach 135, he would hit with 401 tons per punch.
thats the thing i knew really, his feats are bunch of assumptions and no solid proof. By this logic i could say superman shiftetd tectonic plate. Once again this is crap logic, i have done calaculation iun my dceu respect thread and superman has top speed of 930 times the speed of sounds in combat. Giving this assumption and the raw power he had he would have punched far harder than quicksilver.
Assumptions aside, qs has nowhere near feats to back this one up. Superman and kryptonians have many other feats to do it.
Saying this yeah quicksilver has shown decent punch power when he punched apoc around sending him around in the air. However if superman punched apoc, he would literaly drill hole in his head considering how crap apoc durability was.
He tanks everything bar Jean with ease. It's completely unknown for now how strong is Jean so that's that.
QS was comedic relief and his only battle showing was a complete joke. It looks like magneto pierced Apoc with the metal pieces so I think Apoc tanking several 400 tons QS punches is out of the question.
take his body weight and multiply it by his speed. You'll see he hits with insane power. He is hitting Apoc with Hypersonic punches.
This is also back up by the way a tap from him is able to knock out fully grown men in a slower speed state. He could have hit with 100 times more power than that if not more.
he's not hitting with his full body weight, using that you'll get a calculation way off from what the reality would be
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