Can DCEU Snyder Cut Steppenwolf do this?

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Poll Can DCEU Snyder Cut Steppenwolf do this? (40 votes)

Gets vaporized 33%
Gets incinerated 0%
Dies 18%
Gets seriously injured 30%
Gets hurt 3%
Slight discomfort 3%
Tanks 3%
No sells 3%
Laughs at it 10%
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no at least not for long

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My guess was "Gets seriously injured"

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As long as Thanos? He's dead.

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#4 death4bunnies  Moderator

Dies

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He loses his hand in the process but not before succeeding in putting the gem in the gauntlet.

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Thanos was in serious pain there. No DCEU character except maybe the god tiers like Zeus can hope to do that.

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Anyone remember Tony snapping and not being atomized? I certainly do.

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@heatforce: Anyone remember him using his armor and doing a tiny feat? I do.

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Just as good as Thanos.

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He will be blown to bits.

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Gone. Reduced to atoms.

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Slight discomfort

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Thanos was in serious pain there. No DCEU character except maybe the god tiers like Zeus can hope to do that.

This.

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@logicbomb: How? Slight discomfort from holding an object that can kill a half Celestial? He was severely harmed from like three seconds of heat vision.

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reduced to bad cgi ashes

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Why would he have a problem doing this?

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Why would he have a problem doing this?

He is significantly less durable than Thanos, who was in great pain while doing it.

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#22  Edited By DammeFavour

@mikemageo: sure he's less durable based on what exactly? Only one these guys can take the amount of punishment the justice league dished out without as much as a bruise

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@mikemageo: sure he's less durable based on what exactly? Only one these guys can take the amount of punishment the justice league dished out without as much as a bruise

Thanos survived the 5,000+ megaton snap, that puts his durability far above Steppenwolfs

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@mikemageo: lol....he didn't take 5000 megatons, come off it. It was an energy surge through the entire universe

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@mikemageo: lol....he didn't take 5000 megatons, come off it. It was an energy surge through the entire universe

The energy surge is felt throughout the entire universe, but it is still an inside explosion of sorts, Hulk got critically injured from snapping and Iron man died when all he had to do was snap away Thanos and his army. It was also implied Thor wouldn't survive it, the same Thor that survived nidavellir. Thanos survived wiping half the universe so naturally the internal damage would be much greater.

I doubt this feat would even need to be used, the characters he scales to such as Hulk and Thor have better durability than Steppenwolf.

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@DammeFavour: He is less durable based on the fact that he was significantly injured by Superman’s heat vision. That same heat vision was able to hit Batman square in the chest without any damage.

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@goldeneagle: and the same heat vision was able to cauterize lois' wound, don't be daft, we know he can control the intensity of the heat vision, you might as well put cyborg above him then. The heat vision he got hit with would do far worse to thanos

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@DammeFavour: That was an angry Superman. He would have no reason to hold back. Even then, Thanos got hit by much more energy from multiple lightning bolts striking him for an extended period of time and got back up like it was nothing. That is several times hotter than a short blast of heat vision

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@goldeneagle: not angry, confused. If he was angry, he could have killed everyone there as opposed to disabling them. Heat vision can go hotter than 3.5 million Kelvin, thor's lightning doesn't even get as hot as a fraction of it, didn't we see extended lightning wrapped around the Chrysler building?

You're honestly comparing lightning to concentrated plasma blasts, only one of them is conductive

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The amount of headcanon these DCEU wankers have to pull out…

The same ‘confused’ superman was about to kill Flash and was blowing up Tanks with army in ‘em, if he was only trying to ‘disable’ Batman, he could’ve just pimpslapped like he did in canon, and holding-back HV wouldn’t have sent Batfleck flying several metres into that police car and denting it lmao. Any way to lowball Thor? He was only using the Chrysler building as a conductor, lmao these dumbasses.

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@goldeneagle: not angry, confused. If he was angry, he could have killed everyone there as opposed to disabling them.

He would have no reason to go easy on Batman. Even if he did, Thor's lightning is far more powerful.

Heat vision can go hotter than 3.5 million Kelvin

How do you know that?

thor's lightning doesn't even get as hot as a fraction of it, didn't we see extended lightning wrapped around the Chrysler building?

The Chrysler Building is metal. Metal conducts electricity. Even then, he was not even aiming at the building. That was also phase 1 Thor.

You're honestly comparing lightning to concentrated plasma blasts, only one of them is conductive

Thor's lightning is far more powerful. His lightning was able to totally destroy Leviathans (which can no sell a 200 petawatt laser) and bust the Bifrost which was able to channel world destroying energy without breaking. It is definitely safe to say that the lightning is much more powerful.

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@goldeneagle: he still did though, we've seen what an angry superman can do when zod threatened his mother, he was still confused till Lois came, I mean come on, he already disabled one of the gauntlets without going all out. The lightning is far more powerful because?

Because the scout ship metal can take 3.5 million Kelvin without losing structural integrity and superman was able to melt it.

The Chrysler building is metal so? Do you have a point? It still isn't hot enough as proven by that. That remains the most powerful bolt we've seen him summon.

He didn't destroy the leviathans, he caused some parts to explode, its not like they stopped functioning. The bifrost bridge is not some super durable structure, channeling the bifrost energy has no bearing on its durability. So still not nearly as powerful

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@mandabub said:

The amount of headcanon these DCEU wankers have to pull out…

The same ‘confused’ superman was about to kill Flash and was blowing up Tanks with army in ‘em, if he was only trying to ‘disable’ Batman, he could’ve just pimpslapped like he did in canon, and holding-back HV wouldn’t have sent Batfleck flying several metres into that police car and denting it lmao. Any way to lowball Thor? He was only using the Chrysler building as a conductor, lmao these dumbasses.

he almost killed a police officer but cyboboi saved him

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@goldeneagle: he still did though, we've seen what an angry superman can do when zod threatened his mother, he was still confused till Lois came, I mean come on, he already disabled one of the gauntlets without going all out. The lightning is far more powerful because?

The lightning is more powerful because of the reasons that I stated.

Because the scout ship metal can take 3.5 million Kelvin without losing structural integrity and superman was able to melt it.

Okay. I agree. It is 3.4 million kelvin.

The Chrysler building is metal so? Do you have a point? It still isn't hot enough as proven by that. That remains the most powerful bolt we've seen him summon.

Lightning causes heat due to the fact that it causes friction in the air. That does not happen in metal. In metal, lightning does not do the same thing. It is not nearly as hot. If it was, lightning would easily melt anything it touches because its temperature is so much higher than the melting point of anything it would touch.

He didn't destroy the leviathans, he caused some parts to explode, its not like they stopped functioning. The bifrost bridge is not some super durable structure, channeling the bifrost energy has no bearing on its durability. So still not nearly as powerful

He was superheating the metal and causing it to melt. The Bifrost is super durable. If the Bifrost can no sell energy flowing through it, but not no sell another attack, the other attack is stronger than the one that it is no selling.

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#39  Edited By MikeMageo
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@goldeneagle: he still did though, we've seen what an angry superman can do when zod threatened his mother, he was still confused till Lois came, I mean come on, he already disabled one of the gauntlets without going all out. The lightning is far more powerful because?

Because the scout ship metal can take 3.5 million Kelvin without losing structural integrity and superman was able to melt it.

The Chrysler building is metal so? Do you have a point? It still isn't hot enough as proven by that. That remains the most powerful bolt we've seen him summon.

He didn't destroy the leviathans, he caused some parts to explode, its not like they stopped functioning. The bifrost bridge is not some super durable structure, channeling the bifrost energy has no bearing on its durability. So still not nearly as powerful

Heat vision is not 3.5 Million Kelvin, not even close. The arguments for it being that hot were addressed here.

Thor was using the building as a conductor, he wasn't trying to heat it up.

The bifrost was able to tank 10 hammer blows from Thor. Its pretty durable.

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@mikemageo: I'm not assuming all kryptonian metals are the same, the metal that tanked 3.5 million Kelvin was gotten from the scout ship, same one he melted. You were honestly trying compare a ship created for interstellar travel to a terrestrial one? Come on.

You do understand this doesn't exactly help your case right? The Chrysler building was still durable enough to not vaporize, the fact that you're trying to spin it is laughable. And you're failing.

And that was a completely different one compared to the one in ragnarok.

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@mikemageo: I'm not assuming all kryptonian metals are the same, the metal that tanked 3.5 million Kelvin was gotten from the scout ship, same one he melted. You were honestly trying compare a ship created for interstellar travel to a terrestrial one? Come on.

You do understand this doesn't exactly help your case right? The Chrysler building was still durable enough to not vaporize, the fact that you're trying to spin it is laughable. And you're failing.

And that was a completely different one compared to the one in ragnarok.

The metal superheated itself as a reaction to the laser. This was the same laser that was able to charge the motherboxes. Neither the laser nor the heat vision could reach 3.5 million kelvin. Either way, HV is super inconsistent and nothing else it does shows that it could reach that temperature.

The lightning being channeled throughout the building wasn't the same temperature as the lightning being shot out of Thor's hammer. As stated above if lightning was always that hot it would melt everything that it came into contact with.

Would it be false to assume that it has similar durability to the bifrost in Thor 1, since it has the ability to do the exact same things?

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Gets atomized.

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@mikemageo: lol...you keep dancing around the issue and shifting the goal post, the metal could survive heat up to 3.5 million Kelvin and still got melted by heat vision. You do understand they were trying to heat up the metal right not induce a reaction, cyborg was trying to do the same to the motherbox to mark it. How many times do I have to say he can control the intensity of his heat vision?

Why would it be a different temperature again? Isn't mjolnir itself metal? Then why do you keep claiming thor's lightning is?

It would be false, one iteration took mjolnir hits, the other couldn't withstand shots from the orgy ship, fenris running on it and an elbow from hulk. And as we find out in infinity wars, the bifrost didn't exactly require a bridge

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#44  Edited By MikeMageo
@DammeFavour said:

@mikemageo: lol...you keep dancing around the issue and shifting the goal post, the metal could survive heat up to 3.5 million Kelvin and still got melted by heat vision. You do understand they were trying to heat up the metal right not induce a reaction, cyborg was trying to do the same to the motherbox to mark it. How many times do I have to say he can control the intensity of his heat vision?

Why would it be a different temperature again? Isn't mjolnir itself metal? Then why do you keep claiming thor's lightning is?

It would be false, one iteration took mjolnir hits, the other couldn't withstand shots from the orgy ship, fenris running on it and an elbow from hulk. And as we find out in infinity wars, the bifrost didn't exactly require a bridge

The entirety of your argument is that it melted the scout ship, therefore it is 3.5 million kelvin. It was already shown in the film that you do not need something that hot for the metal to reach extreme temperatures:

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The laser didn't need to be that hot in order to induce a reaction that causes the metal to super heat itself. This is just proven just a few seconds later when they say "you are looking at the hottest thing on Earth". The laser wasn't the hottest thing, the metal was. The same thing with HV, it doesn't need to be 3.5 million kelvin to superheat the metal.

3.5 million kelvin is such a high baseline of heat that everything Superman does with it is arguably an anti feat. It failed to melt cars, trucks, batman, Cyborg and Steppenwolf, who has shown that he can get hurt by lightning. Even if we are to assume that it reached that temperature, it would be an outlier as everything he would go on to do with it would be an anti-feat.

Air doesn't conduct lightning, metal does. Air gets extremely hot when it is forced to conduct lightning. Mjolnir is a magical hammer made of Uru, so obviously it doesn't compare to the steel from the Chrysler building.

Feat for the ship, Hulk and Fenris, this is the same Hulk that was able to stagger prime surtur.

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@the_gaurdian: How? His best feat was surviving Superman's punches. Even then, he was shaken. There is no chance that he is even close to Thanos. Thanos (not including his snap) is consistently more durable than anybody we have seen in the DCEU.

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Steppenwolf got nearly killed by Heat Vision that Batman tanked.

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@goldeneagle: He tanked multiple hits from Superman (which is fair to say because he literally got up ready to fight) and on top of that everything that Aquaman, Wonder Woman and Cyborg threw at him. I don't see Thanos taking everything he did without a scratch considering that inferior teams were able to bruise him and even draw blood

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@goldeneagle: He tanked multiple hits from Superman (which is fair to say because he literally got up ready to fight) and on top of that everything that Aquaman, Wonder Woman and Cyborg threw at him.

This is fair, but it was also nothing compared to what Thanos took.

I don't see Thanos taking everything he did without a scratch considering that inferior teams were able to bruise him and even draw blood

The only person who was able to draw blood was Iron Man. He was able to do it by using a condensed ball of his nanotech metal which can tank meteors and Power Stone blasts. In fact, Iron Man's armor has literally no anti feats.

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@goldeneagle: Nobody that hurt Thanos hit harder than Superman so there's that, also it was Tony, Spiderman, Strange and the GOTG that all did it collectively. Had that been Steppenwolf on Titan none of those attacks would've been able to scratch his armor let alone make him bleed.