Can DCEU Black Adam replicate every MCU Captain Marvel feat?

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Poll Can DCEU Black Adam replicate every MCU Captain Marvel feat? (68 votes)

Yes 46%
No 50%
Maybe 4%
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Easily. Except her ftl speed ig

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He can’t fly MFTL

He can’t survive a hit from power stone Thanos or briefly overpower him

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Easily.

Still not sure if Carol is actually MFTL or uses the same space time jump portals used by Guardians. If she is MFTL then Adam can't replicate that. Adam can easily replicate the rest, including all of her strength, durability, striking feats. Nobody in the MCU is a casual 100000+ tonner like Adam, not even close. No Avenger has 100+ Megaton level energy projection, not even a fraction of that

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He gets KTFO by the missiles and Thanos' headbutt. He can't go through the Kree ships or Sanctuary 2, at least not as easily as Carol did. He can't overpower Thanos or survive the Power Stone punch. Pretty sure he can't throw the kree missile back, overpowering it's thrust, either. He can't carry a ship at MTFL+ speed, nor fly anywhere near that fast for that matter. Anyone saying Adam is as strong as Carol, Thor, Hulk, Thanos, etc, is in denial.

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#5 DammeFavour  Online

I still doubt she can go LS. Other than that, yeah he's a lot stronger, faster and more durable than she is, and no, even hawkman hit him alot harder than thanos with the power stone did, for God's sake even random kryptonians hit harder than that

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lol no

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#7  Edited By RajjarsAlt  Online
@DammeFavour said:

I still doubt she can go LS. Other than that, yeah he's a lot stronger, faster and more durable than she is, and no, even hawkman hit him alot harder than thanos with the power stone did, for God's sake even random kryptonians hit harder than that

Bruh Hawkman can't even hit as hard as Thanos's fingers when they cracked Vision's skull let alone with an Infinity Stone that destroys entire worlds as if they were made of cardboard

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#8  Edited By DammeFavour  Online

@rajjarsalt: lol....you keep trying to wank vibranium. Sure thanos was hitting everyone with world destroying force, makes total sense, drax and the rest of the guardians are planet level too while you're at it. We saw how hard he hit her and it was nowhere near as hard as you're trying to make it out to be. And it more looks like the mind stone exploded inside vision after thanos plucked it

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The fact that people still can’t accept that Carol is FTL is just laughable. Multiple on screen feats and it will never matter.

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#10  Edited By DammeFavour  Online

@kal_el_batson: there's literally just one ambiguous on screen feat showing her LS, alot of people like myself think she just got into the ship at the end of captain marvel, every other time we've seen her flying onscreen has been at the most MHS

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#11  Edited By Kal_El_Batson

@DammeFavour:

Disingenuous and you know it. Her whole shtick was “she was covering a lot of ground” away from Earth.

Of course you would think that, though. It is the MCU. That isn’t surprising.

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#12 RajjarsAlt  Online

@rajjarsalt: lol....you keep trying to wank vibranium. Sure thanos was hitting everyone with world destroying force, makes total sense, drax and the rest of the guardians are planet level too while you're at it. We saw how hard he hit her and it was nowhere near as hard as you're trying to make it out to be. And it more looks like the mind stone exploded inside vision after thanos plucked it

Better for all of those people to get that, then for that birdbrain to get any respect! For the Power Stone got feats! And Hawkman got none!

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#13 DammeFavour  Online

@kal_el_batson: isn't that also the whole shtick about the nova force, doing that does not require being LS, now can you provide the multiple onscreen LS showings you claimed?

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@DammeFavour:

My eyeballs.

They were searching for the LS weapon. She IS the LS weapon.

You are not watching the movie if you think she hopped on the ship at the end of CM. You very visibly see her directly next to the ship.

You very visibly see her rescue Tony light years away in Endgame. She doesn’t use a ship or a jump points. Tony catches glimpses of her approaching.

But it is okay, we understand certain things are hard to accept.

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#16 DammeFavour  Online

@kal_el_batson: I don't know what you think an onscreen feat is. I have proof that ikaris can fly faster than light, assuming the scene is real time which I do.

And no, in the movie they were searching for the LS ENGINE, the stuff that's supposed to power the ship, like the stuff that created captain marvel.

You should actually watch the movie first mate.

The fact remains, We. Do. Not. See. Her. Go. LS, other than the ambiguous scene I mentioned. How is that too much to understand?

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Nope

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Doubt he can fly as fast, that's for sure. He can only go LS with WoG statements.

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@DammeFavour:

How in the world is that scene ambiguous?

How much clearer could they have made it?

You guys are the same lot who say Superman in MOS was Mach 3000 and then say “naw Carol’s feats are ambiguous”.

I’ve seen the movies plenty of times. Show me one instance where Carol opens up jump points like posters have mentioned?

The LS engine was powered by the space stone. She was powered by tesseract energy.

Pretend she was a DCEU character.

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#21  Edited By AbbottforPres

Captain Feminist’s speed is pretty inconsistent. Adam might be able to go a little faster than her, even, but that is not everything she is capable of.

Although she may not be as fast as stated to be more pretending to be, assuming that the official statement for her travel and fighting speeds comes not from the directors‘ intent but from some in-universe claims that are associated with her own verbal proclamation which is then adapted into a guidebook, only for the viewers to get hyped reading it, she still got plenty other feats that Adam cannot replicate.

Save the faster than light flight speed statement which is both vague and inconsistent, she is demonstrably and canonically, as per the writers again, one of the strongest and toughest, if not the strongest and toughest, Avengers there is.

If Adam were there in the Endgame fight and tried to wrestle the Infinity Gauntlet from Thanos the way Carol did, he would die and be fried to crisps upon contact because not only does he not have any feats to support the assertion that he can absorb the energies of the Stones but he isn‘t shown anywhere in his own film or through scalings to be durable enough to even make contact with them, considering what it did to Hulk whose power is also gamma based and who has shown the ability to absorb radiation, and would have done to Thor if he were to put the glove on had he not been stopped by Tony, and considering how good Thor was in withstanding a beam from the forge in Nidavellir which was at least Moon-level considering that it melted Stormbreaker pretty casually while the same hammer could endure the combined beams from Thanos in a panic attack, and also gamma based because it was coming from a neutron star.

I also don’t think he would be able be able to survive Sanctuary II’s lasers if he were to charge down to it like Carol did because the same lasers overpowered Wanda’s shield formation which, granted wasn’t as impressive as her AP and didn’t take anything more than a brief moment to be constructed making it less durable by default, was still solid and could hold Adam. In trying he would be knocked off from the sky if not outright killed by those lasers if repeatedly hit by them.

Black Adam would also have no home flying through Sanctuary II as well and might even die trying to hit it. Taking into account its size and how fast it traveled, the ship must have been as insanely durable and intellectually designed as it could be, otherwise it would have torn itself apart going from one place to another via hyperspace alone.

These are the feats that Adam will never be able to replicate if that small rocket put him to sleep, because while it is magic the same can be said for a good amount of Thanos’ personal equipments and the Space and Reality Stones.

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Easily

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@DammeFavour: @kal_el_batson: She most likely uses jump points. She rides with the avengers in the beginning of End Game to find Thanos. They jump space to get there. This still doesn’t make it certain but that is a time where you know she has used them.

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#24 DammeFavour  Online

@kal_el_batson: do you just usually go off tangent like this?

By maybe having her go LS any other time? That's why I said it's ambiguous because there's many times it would have been useful.

I don't have to show you where she opens jump points, the fact remains that jump points exist and are located at fixed points in space and everyone seems to have access to it, even the kree used one close to earth. Plus she didn't travel much beyond earth throughout the entire movie, why would she need to open one?

I know how the engine was created, you claimed they were looking for a LS weapon and captain marvel was it, you were wrong.

Yes I think superman flew that fast because we literally have a way to measure it, the time the world engine stopped and the time he took to intercept the scout ship in metropolis prove this, doesn't mean he ever flew that fast any other time

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@ironandfire: @deltahuman: @DammeFavour:

The entire point of the solo Captain Marvel movie was that the aliens were trying to create an FTL drive to AVOID using jump points so that they could go places jump points could not take their enemies and therefore be free of them. Captain Marvel is shown at the end of the movie going along with the ship that uses the FTL drive. The VFX of her and the ship are the same. Therefore, yes Captain Marvel is capable of FTL in space due to her space stone derived power, she does not need jump points.

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@crunch5481: She could go 2x, 5x, 10x, 100x the speed of light and it still doesn’t make intergalactic travel nearly instantaneous like jump points do. That is not a good argument.

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@DammeFavour: @crunch5481:

Crunch, Damme doesn’t care about things like that.

Damme, I wrote weapon I understand. I meant to say engine.

The end of the movie clearly shows FTL travel. Her saving Tony Stark shows FTL travel.

In GOTG2 they show what it is like using too many jump points and the effects it has. Why would Carol subject a dying Tony to that?

There is a big difference between saying that Carol is MFTL combat speed and what not. I don’t wank her that way. However, I think the MCU has made it absolutely clear that in space she travels MFTL, just like how they did with Ikaris.

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She is faster in travel speed but thats it, in other areas Teth is ahead of her

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No, he can't drill Ultron to the center of a planet.

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When Crunch backs up an MCU argument then you know you are wrong 💀

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@kal_el_batson said:

The fact that people still can’t accept that Carol is FTL is just laughable. Multiple on screen feats and it will never matter.

Travel speed? I agree she is FTL but combat speed no unless she got feats in the Marvels trailer.

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@ironandfire:

Your point is irrelevant. It’s clearly intended that she is able to keep up with the ship outfitted with what the movie refers to as an “FTL drive” and the movie establishes the purpose of that drive to be a viable alternative to using jump points. It doesn’t need to be near instantaneous like jump points.

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#34 DammeFavour  Online

@kal_el_batson: having watched the scene again, I admit she went LS in that scene, but your argument still remains really shit.

Titan is not that far from earth as proven by the donut ship going there in IW and none of the side effects occurred.

Yes, captain marvel can go LS, but most of those feats have been offscreen, that was my entire point

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@DammeFavour:

My arguments “are shit” but they are correct.

Just admit you were wrong dude. No need to insult people just because you were wrong and have proven again and again your bias.

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@jurance:

Nobody is saying she’s FTL combat speed.

But she is absolute MFTL in travel speed, not sure why people are having issues with that.

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#38 DammeFavour  Online

@kal_el_batson: yes your argument are still shit, the only thing cleared up is the ambiguity of that 1 scene like I initially said.

There still remains no other onscreen feat of her going LS like I originally said. So I don't know what you're on about because till now, you're still running around failing to provide the multiple onscreen feats that you claimed because you were so clearly wrong

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Definitely not

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No

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Maybe, But most likely not.

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#43  Edited By Arexi

Nope, can't no sell thanos or even contend with him as well as carol did in the gauntlet struggle, or travel at mftl speeds in space

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@crunch5481:

Cool. In that case, Carol is definitely MFTL in travel speed. Adam is only light speed and that too only by statements. So travel speed wise, Carol is clearly ahead of almost all live action characters. Very good. However, combat and reaction speed wise Adam is miles ahead. So I don't think it would make a large difference if Adam is swapped with Carol in her movies

Nonetheless, that's about it. Adam is better than Carol in everything else so he can replicate all of her feats with extreme ease. Given how ruthless he is, I am pretty sure he would singlehandedly be able to solo Thanos and his entire army in Endgame

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Definitely not. He can rep some but definitely not the high ends

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No he can't...the warhead feat is significantly higher than the statue feat and he's slower than captain marvel

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Easily

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@crunch5481: You asked for one time she used jump points. I gave you a time. Pretty relevant, guess you forgot about that.

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@kal_el_batson: I don’t have a problem with MFTL travel. I just don’t think people should immediately start pushing for thousands or millions of times light speed which you’d have to be if you never needed jump points.