Poll Can DBS level Goku survive Radiation, Poisons, or Viruses? (29 votes)
Read Poll carefully, and pick a option. What of the above can affect a DBS Sayain like Goku? Why or why not?
Read Poll carefully, and pick a option. What of the above can affect a DBS Sayain like Goku? Why or why not?
He was affected by a heart virus and died.
He was affected by Frosts’ poison.
We haven’t see radiation really effect him.
Radiation yes.
Goku was affected by Frost's poison needle, though it must be stated that the poison didn't kill him, it incapacitated him. Though Frost does have other lethal needles, those might be able to do him in.
Goku was close to dying to a heart virus, and succumbed to it in an alternate universe. This comes down to the severity of the virus, but he surely isn't surviving more lethal versions of it.
@poopooeater: A lot of people seem to think flying through space means proof of radiation not affecting Goku. Even Apollo Astronauts going through the heavy Van Allen Belt of Radiation received a very low and non-harmful dose of radiation. So far through space doesn't really prove anything since it's just low doses of radiation.
See if some characters like say Hulk who can put out lethal doses of radiation and pure energy attacks from his body. And I wonder if someone like Goku even survive something like that. Other cases would be like throwing Goku into a star with solar radiation that can instant kill any living cells near it. Things like that. Garou for example also unleashes a quasar like blast pure radiation I wonder if the sake could even take something like that.
@poopooeater: A lot of people seem to think flying through space means proof of radiation not affecting Goku. Even Apollo Astronauts going through the heavy Van Allen Belt of Radiation received a very low and non-harmful dose of radiation. So far through space doesn't really prove anything since it's just low doses of radiation.
@maulsmacker: @masterbuster666: @thereddevils: @infinitymatrix: @supreme101: just to clarify Radiation be like these examples.
Hulks radiation burns a hole in the very earth he lays in with green radiation flames.
Hulks Gamma Rays totally mess up Galaxy Master who survives and lives in solar Radiation for eons fine.
Cosmic garou Gamma Ray Blast for example. The most heavy on energy and radiation in the universe.
Can Goku really survive these doses of Radiation? Can he just shrug them off in your oponion?
Getting stronger doesn’t protect him from viruses or poison. I don’t know how he would deal with radiation.
@sirfizzwhizz: It seems like biological attacks can threaten his life so maybe radation can.
I meant Goku hasn't fought someone who uses radation like that, so probably.
No.
Depends. Ki barriers can protect him though.
Depends. The Galactic Patrol confirmed viral extinction bombs have no effect on Saiyans. The virus that Goku succumbed to in the Android Saga couldn't be cured by senzu beans and needed a special medicine from 17 years in the future by Bulma.
Radiation? Doesn't have any radiation resistance feats so I would have to say no on basis of that, becoming more durable doesn't help against it either.
Poisons? As far as I remember he actually has actually some poison resistance feats in early DB.
Viruses? It really depends on the virus, he either became more resistant to them by DBS or the one that killed him in an alternate timeline was more lethal, which ways a lot since they apparently can survive biological weapons.
Not as far as I know, Surviving radiation from space would be the equivalent of comparing someone surviving in lava vs surviving the heat of a supernova, the difference between the two is too great to even compare, the radiation released by GRB's and Supernovas seem to be quite far from his league for now.
Getting stronger doesn’t protect him from viruses or poison. I don’t know how he would deal with radiation.
For ionizing radiation a character's biology has to either be able of absorbing (Godzilla) or filter it out (Superman), also being resistant to matter deconstruction at a subatomic level should work, being more durable won't help as much against something that breaks your chemical bonds and remove electrons from your atoms.
@cyanphoenix: Yeah, normally that would be the case, but I'm just not sure if dragon ball z characters, or saiyans in general would be weak to radiation. As of now I would say they probably are. You could also argue since radiation is coming from outside the body their ki would protect them, as destroying chemical bonds is still technically an attack on the physical level.
@cyanphoenix: Yeah, normally that would be the case, but I'm just not sure if dragon ball z characters, or saiyans in general would be weak to radiation. As of now I would say they probably are. You could also argue since radiation is coming from outside the body their ki would protect them, as destroying chemical bonds is still technically an attack on the physical level.
I mean they're made of flesh and not something like lead, so it's very likely they are affected.
It's also true that this would be an attack on the physical level, but the way radiation works means this would be closer to a type of matter deconstruction than a conventional attack (albeit way weaker/restricted than other ways of matter deconstruction used in comics).
They can probably cover themselves on a Ki barrier and avoid the side effects of it, but that's closer to having a passive shield than being resistant to the thing itself.
@cyanphoenix: Yeah, normally that would be the case, but I'm just not sure if dragon ball z characters, or saiyans in general would be weak to radiation. As of now I would say they probably are. You could also argue since radiation is coming from outside the body their ki would protect them, as destroying chemical bonds is still technically an attack on the physical level.
I mean they're made of flesh and not something like lead, so it's very likely they are affected.
It's also true that this would be an attack on the physical level, but the way radiation works means this would be closer to a type of matter deconstruction than a conventional attack (albeit way weaker/restricted than other ways of matter deconstruction used in comics).
They can probably cover themselves on a Ki barrier and avoid the side effects of it, but that's closer to having a passive shield than being resistant to the thing itself.
@cyanphoenix: Yeah, normally that would be the case, but I'm just not sure if dragon ball z characters, or saiyans in general would be weak to radiation. As of now I would say they probably are. You could also argue since radiation is coming from outside the body their ki would protect them, as destroying chemical bonds is still technically an attack on the physical level.
I mean they're made of flesh and not something like lead, so it's very likely they are affected.
It's also true that this would be an attack on the physical level, but the way radiation works means this would be closer to a type of matter deconstruction than a conventional attack (albeit way weaker/restricted than other ways of matter deconstruction used in comics).
They can probably cover themselves on a Ki barrier and avoid the side effects of it, but that's closer to having a passive shield than being resistant to the thing itself.
damn man, you shouldn’t put goku in the same means as a real life human for christ sake, why do you guys always do that? Radiation is Energy stated by Multiple sources around the web, and it needs enough energy to affect you.
it’s just basically high energy messing up your sub atomi/atomic structure nothing special really, especially in fiction.
yes Goku guys do have radiation resistantance.
Garou’s gamma ray burst is the same thing as Vegeta’s galick gun in Namek saga but better based on visual, what the opm fans relies on most. (Talking about Vegeta)
Don’t mean to sound rude but if you know physics you would know what I’m talking.
also werent you the one to state that a Ki blast has the same energy as a UV Ray? Lol
if you still want to do that CaV let me know
As for Poisons, Basically a chemical/ Molecular substance that is really harmful to human tissue and damages it
a Virus is a microorganism that can be considered “Living” Or ”Non Living” Becuz they can’t reproduce on their own and need a Host (Cell) to Hijack it, modify it to their liking , and reproduce and take over other cells.
I don’t think saiyans have Virus resistance because Goku really died from one, I guess that virus evoled to suck the ki out of the host as well lol, and as far as poisons, I don’t think their was any instances in the series afaik
feel like this thread is 🧀
@sirfizzwhizz: I’m willimg to challenge you to a CaV if you so wish cuz
@goku_wayne: me and Daily have a DB cav going on right now. But thanks.
@sirfizzwhizz: we can do it later… Just let me know
@cyanphoenix: Yeah, normally that would be the case, but I'm just not sure if dragon ball z characters, or saiyans in general would be weak to radiation. As of now I would say they probably are. You could also argue since radiation is coming from outside the body their ki would protect them, as destroying chemical bonds is still technically an attack on the physical level.
I mean they're made of flesh and not something like lead, so it's very likely they are affected.
It's also true that this would be an attack on the physical level, but the way radiation works means this would be closer to a type of matter deconstruction than a conventional attack (albeit way weaker/restricted than other ways of matter deconstruction used in comics).
They can probably cover themselves on a Ki barrier and avoid the side effects of it, but that's closer to having a passive shield than being resistant to the thing itself.
@cyanphoenix: Yeah, normally that would be the case, but I'm just not sure if dragon ball z characters, or saiyans in general would be weak to radiation. As of now I would say they probably are. You could also argue since radiation is coming from outside the body their ki would protect them, as destroying chemical bonds is still technically an attack on the physical level.
I mean they're made of flesh and not something like lead, so it's very likely they are affected.
It's also true that this would be an attack on the physical level, but the way radiation works means this would be closer to a type of matter deconstruction than a conventional attack (albeit way weaker/restricted than other ways of matter deconstruction used in comics).
They can probably cover themselves on a Ki barrier and avoid the side effects of it, but that's closer to having a passive shield than being resistant to the thing itself.
damn man, you shouldn’t put goku in the same means as a real life human for christ sake, why do you guys always do that? Radiation is Energy stated by Multiple sources around the web, and it needs enough energy to affect you.
it’s just basically high energy messing up your sub atomi/atomic structure nothing special really, especially in fiction.
yes Goku guys do have radiation resistantance.
Garou’s gamma ray burst is the same thing as Vegeta’s galick gun in Namek saga but better based on visual, what the opm fans relies on most. (Talking about Vegeta)
Don’t mean to sound rude but if you know physics you would know what I’m talking.
also werent you the one to state that a Ki blast has the same energy as a UV Ray? Lol
if you still want to do that CaV let me know
typical delusional dragon ball fan trying to make up feats outta their ass lmao
@coadamol: lol what? what feat did I pull out of my ass? are you talking about Vegeta’s galick gun?
Typical Opm fans losing brain cells by the day.
I believe trunks implied that Goku had some resistance to viruses. Because when Trunks gave Goku the medicine for the heart virus he said "its even strong enough to kill a ssj" or something to that effect. Its hard to quantify his resistance to such things however. Especially since we don't know if Goku can currently survive that heart virus even now.
damn man, you shouldn’t put goku in the same means as a real life human for christ sake, why do you guys always do that? Radiation is Energy stated by Multiple sources around the web, and it needs enough energy to affect you.
it’s just basically high energy messing up your sub atomi/atomic structure nothing special really, especially in fiction.
yes Goku guys do have radiation resistantance.
Garou’s gamma ray burst is the same thing as Vegeta’s galick gun in Namek saga but better based on visual, what the opm fans relies on most. (Talking about Vegeta)
Don’t mean to sound rude but if you know physics you would know what I’m talking.
also werent you the one to state that a Ki blast has the same energy as a UV Ray? Lol
if you still want to do that CaV let me know
I didn't say goku is as strong as a normal human, I said that because his skin and muscles are composed of flesh it's unlikely his biology would be resistant via lack of feats.
Radiation breaking the chemical bonds in your body it's kind of a big deal, since unlike Blunt force it won't affect the body the same way, and can kill in seconds depending in the ammount received.
Also lol, Ki blasts in DB are closer to magic energy blasts than to gamma radiation, they move at MFTL speeds, are able of interacting with intangible stuff like Spirits/Souls/Etc, can bend on ways seemingly impossible for light, things which would immediatly disqualify it from being the same thing.
damn man, you shouldn’t put goku in the same means as a real life human for christ sake, why do you guys always do that? Radiation is Energy stated by Multiple sources around the web, and it needs enough energy to affect you.
it’s just basically high energy messing up your sub atomi/atomic structure nothing special really, especially in fiction.
yes Goku guys do have radiation resistantance.
Garou’s gamma ray burst is the same thing as Vegeta’s galick gun in Namek saga but better based on visual, what the opm fans relies on most. (Talking about Vegeta)
Don’t mean to sound rude but if you know physics you would know what I’m talking.
also werent you the one to state that a Ki blast has the same energy as a UV Ray? Lol
if you still want to do that CaV let me know
I didn't say goku is as strong as a normal human, I said that because his skin and muscles are composed of flesh it's unlikely his biology would be resistant via lack of feats.
Yeah and it’s Ki is what makes his skin, Muscle, Tissue,Chemical Bonds, Atoms, subatomic particles so Tuff and strong.
Radiation breaking the chemical bonds in your body it's kind of a big deal, since unlike Blunt force it won't affect the body the same way, and can kill in seconds depending in the ammount received.
Well Obviously. You think I don’t know this? Your talking about a Macroscopic Body Compared to a subatomic Particle, which is ludicrously smaller. So when you hit some one or something that is bigger wayyyyy bigger than a subatomic particle that is macroscopic, That body will absorb all that energy and be distributed through it’s countless of atoms. Basically our structure is to big to affect something sooooo small
Also lol, Ki blasts in DB are closer to magic energy blasts than to gamma radiation, they move at MFTL speeds, are able of interacting with intangible stuff like Spirits/Souls/Etc, can bend on ways seemingly impossible for light, things which would immediatly disqualify it from being the same thing.
Ki Blast are not Magic but comes from one‘s Fighting Vigor, Mind Courage and spirit. It’s basically one’s own Energy/Spirit. There is countless of times where they have stated there ki attacks are “energy blast/attack“ or “the Kamehameha wave“ Even if it was magic it still does erase people on a subatomic level as what happen to Kidd Buu at the end of Z.
How do I know this?. There was a Time where super buu got turned into a gaseou/vapor state from Gotanks ki attacks. He controlled his smoke and regenerated from it. If you don’t know what is gas/ Vapor is, it is the 3rd form of matter. It composes of both molecules AND Individual atoms. But when Goku threw that spirit bomb to kid buu. It was so much energy that it bypassed kid buu’s subatomic durability and destroyed even buu’s Protons and Neutrons into quarks. Hence the reason why he couldn’t regenerate. Everything in DBZ is about Energy lol. Ki is another word for energy, or it might as well be
Damn, you do realize it doesn’t take much energy to Vap a human right?3 Giga Joules is what it takes to do the Job. While Garou’s cosmic Radiation isn’t even close to that level of energy when he emitted it. Vegeta’s energy attack already destroyed a planet to literal nothingness. Much MUCH More energy then what garou was emitting. 10^32 Js. MORE than enough to break atoms
All of the Atoms in the elements of
the periodic Table literally takes way below 0 J of energy to break. they’re weak very weak compared to our macroscopic bodies. That distributes ALOT more energy.
I don’t understand how you could not acknowledge all of this considering you “know” about radiation
Radiation Is Energy. End. of. Story. Enough energy to disrupt your Tiny particles that make up you
Nothing special Lol
@cyanphoenix: Also here is the most proof we’re gonna get that Ki can be manipulated into Electromagnetic Energy
The Solar Flare
Tien states that it was the technique of the sun. The sun is electromagnetic Energy. It’s light. The whole reason why Goku grabbed glasses in the first place because It Blinds people.
Ki attacks Are Electromagnetic Radiant Energy as I have provided the proof.
They might make their muscles stronger, but they would still be flesh.
We don't have proof of Ki being able of subatomic destruction until DBS and that's exclusive to Hakai energy, the best proof we have of Ki being able to destroy something it's on a molecular level, there's nothing that indicates Buu could regenerate from his own atoms being destroyed so it's just headcanon.
Energy is applied on different ways, it takes less energy to vaporize a human than to destroy his atomic structure completely but the mechanism said energy is applied is different, which is why your argument doesn't work either way, according to your logic any Town/City level character should be vaporizing buildings with every punch they throw, but we know that ain't the case since that's not how blunt force works, similar thing with radioactivity.
It takes little energy to overcome the nuclear binding energy of atoms individually, but when applied to an entire body results change drastically, and this only helps to prove that radiation doesn't even need such high ammounts of energy to cause fatal damage as long as it's Ionizing.
Also, this doesn't mean anything other than "Ki generates light and heat" which a lighter also does and it's not radioactive.
They might make their muscles stronger, but they would still be flesh.
Its Clear that you don’t know what I’m talking about.
We don't have proof of Ki being able of subatomic destruction until DBS and that's exclusive to Hakai energy, the best proof we have of Ki being able to destroy something it's on a molecular level, there's nothing that indicates Buu could regenerate from his own atoms being destroyed so it's just headcanon.
dam man are you twisting logic? I will said it again it Takes 3 Giga Joules of energy to separate Majority of the atoms from a standard human. It takes figgin way less energy to break atoms themselves Litterally 0 Joules below and counting
Buu literally got turned into Vapor/Gas/Smoke this matter consist of single individual atoms and sometimes even some Molecular bonds. How is this head cannon?
Energy is applied on different ways, it takes less energy to vaporize a human than to destroy his atomic structure completely but the mechanism said energy is applied is different, which is why your argument doesn't work either way, according to your logic any Town/City level character should be vaporizing buildings with every punch they throw, but we know that ain't the case since that's not how blunt force works, similar thing with radioactivity.
Lol A City Level characte can very much vaporize materials, but maybe not every single atoms from every structure. you have to take into account that energy is lost when it is distributed and travels. so if a city level person punches a building the area where he punches has enough energy to seperate molecules. They just don’t show it anime. if we were to use real life physics city level characters can indeed vaporize humans and buildings. at least most of their atoms. Hell tnt that has 3 giga joules can vape a human
Radiation requires less energy because Its already small. It Already a subatomic particle. It interacts with other subatomic particles and sizes directly because it is one. A macroscopic body requires more energy to break atoms because its a lot bigger and there is quintillion upon quintillions of atoms in a macroscopic body. We don’t interact with a subatomic particle because there too small and they make up macroscopic bodies
It takes little energy to overcome the nuclear binding energy of atoms individually, but when applied to an entire body results change drastically, and this only helps to prove that radiation doesn't even need such high ammounts of energy to cause fatal damage as long as it's Ionizing.
I don’t get what your saying. Radiation is low energy in Joules But is destructive to our subatomic particles because they are small and doesn’t have that much energy to begin with
The reason why Ionizing radiation is Ionizing is BECAUSE of High Amounts or enough energy,to able to “Bombard” Elecctrons off atoms. So it needs enough energy to Ionize atoms if it doesn’t have enough energy, it doesn’t, Your tripping over your own feet my guy, like always
You do realize that the highest single Gamma ray Quanta ever recorded is 1.5 Peta Electron Volts Right ? That’s still not even 0 Joules of energy. And it takes 10^32 Joules of energy to destroy the world, and vegeta did it in the form of electromagnetic Radiation energy. alot more than Than the highest gamma ray record by freaking miles upon miles upon miles. damn man did you pass 2nd grade? I don’t know how you do not get this.
Also, this doesn't mean anything other than "Ki generates light and heat" which a lighter also does and it's not radioactive.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 uhh maybe because the light it’s giving off is visible light and not x rays gamma rays? 🤷♂️ Again all below 0 Joules of energy, in the form of electromagnetic Radiation Energy that is. Are you saying that That a Fire and a Ki blast is the same? Don’t you realize that DB Characters can put alot more energy into an attack than a lighter can? 10^32 Joules of energy from there finger tips that is 😂 are you sure your not sabo? lol
Damn man this is Fiction!
@cyanphoenix: Dude Look up how much energy it takes to vape a human and to separate it‘s molecular bonds. it ain’t that much to Db standards in the slightest. It sure ain’t fucking 10^32 Joules of energy
Ot: Yes Radiation does affect saiyans, but only gamma, and it has to be universal+ in energy. However even though they get affected by it. they show no signs of radiation poisoning affects.
@goku_wayne: i don't recall goku's atoms being as durable as goku's physicals so radiation gg 🙂
oh you Opm scrubs can play a fucking role, can’t you. all you guys do is twist logic and do mental Gymnastics. Beat around the bush.
It seems like you got nothing to say but Radiation GG 😁
oh you Opm scrubs can play a fucking role, can’t you. all you guys do is twist logic and do mental Gymnastics. Beat around the bush.
It seems like you got nothing to say but Radiation GG 😁
So no proof that Goku's atoms are as durable as his own body? Good to know
Radiation messes up with goku's molecules GG
Consider yourself educated 📚
@omega7373663: Read what I wrote In my previous post. If you knew anything about physics, you would know what I’m talking about. Apparently you don’t
consider yourself a certified grade A S+ Retard
@omega7373663: Read what I wrote In my previous post. If you knew anything about physics, you would know what I’m talking about. Apparently you don’t
consider yourself a certified grade A S+ Retard
So no proof that Goku's atoms are as durable as his own body? Good to know
Radiation messes up with goku's molecules GG
Consider yourself educated 📚
@omega7373663: Why are you trolling? read what I wrote….
@omega7373663: Why are you trolling? read what I wrote….
I did and still this
So no proof that Goku's atoms are as durable as his own body? Good to know
Radiation messes up with goku's molecules GG
Consider yourself educated 📚
@omega7373663: Alright buddy I will put this simple
It takes 3 Giga joules to seperate most molecular bonds in a human being right?
Yet it takes 10 ^32 Joules of energy to destroy a planet. if we divide the energy it takes to destroy a planet to the energy it takes to vape a human. maybe this will shit you up for good. And prove you and the rest of the opm scrubs wrong
so
10^32 / 3000000000 = 3.3333333e+22
So Vegeta Distributed 3.3333333e+22 or 33333333000000000000000 of Joules in SS than what it takes to separated molecule bonds from a human…. In the form of electromagnetic radiation
Don’t even get me started in Current Super
It‘s clear that goku can tank vaporization (3gigJ of energy 🗿)
And yes I know your trolling and baiting me, but ehh it’s entertaining
@omega7373663: Alright buddy I will put this simple
It takes 3 Giga joules to seperate most molecular bonds in a human being right?
Yet it takes 10 ^32 Joules of energy to destroy a planet. if we divide the energy it takes to destroy a planet to the energy it takes to vape a human. maybe this will shit you up for good. And prove you and the rest of the opm scrubs wrong
so
10^32 / 3000000000 = 3.3333333e+22
So Vegeta Distributed 3.3333333e+22 or 33333333000000000000000 of Joules in SS than what it takes to separated molecule bonds from a human…. In the form of electromagnetic radiation
Don’t even get me started in Current Super
It‘s clear that goku can tank vaporization (3gigJ of energy 🗿)
And yes I know your trolling and baiting me, but ehh it’s entertaining
Goku's molecules = human level
Problem solved
You got educated again 📚
@omega7373663: Alright buddy I will put this simple
It takes 3 Giga joules to seperate most molecular bonds in a human being right?
Yet it takes 10 ^32 Joules of energy to destroy a planet. if we divide the energy it takes to destroy a planet to the energy it takes to vape a human. maybe this will shit you up for good. And prove you and the rest of the opm scrubs wrong
so
10^32 / 3000000000 = 3.3333333e+22
So Vegeta Distributed 3.3333333e+22 or 33333333000000000000000 of Joules in SS than what it takes to separated molecule bonds from a human…. In the form of electromagnetic radiation
Don’t even get me started in Current Super
It‘s clear that goku can tank vaporization (3gigJ of energy 🗿)
And yes I know your trolling and baiting me, but ehh it’s entertaining
Goku's molecules = human level
Problem solved
You got educated again 📚
Concession accepted
Yes.
None of those have affected someone on Goku’s level before. Need feats that they can take down someone as strong as Goku.
Debate 101.
@noobsnowman: Because maybe there’s Radiation in this topic, and radiation involves joules, why else would we bring in joules and “advance science “ in this debate? lol
Goku nor any DB character has ever been shown effected by radiation despite being exposed to space, explosions similar to atomic blasts and planetary destructions.
Poisons, Goku drank a lethal one as a kid and survived so he does have more resistance that normal at least, he can also set up a ki barrier that blocks poison attacks like he did against Lavender.
Viruses, his alternate version died to one, granted it must have been a very potent one considering sensus and DB's advanced tech couldn't heal it on top of saiyans having natural resistance to viruses like Extinction Bomb that can wipe out entire planets populations out.
Why are we talking about advanced science and joules in Dragonball LOL
Because dude posted a scan of a random MF tanking a shiny magic beam and wants to use that as a radiation resistance feat.
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