Can anyone in the hst survive this?

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"Vritra is the first king of the Vritra clan, and Fathomless Fire is his unique transcendental skill. It moves targets to a 0-dimensional space. Their destination is a boundless dimension of nothingness. where nothing is permitted to exist, and every form of existence in mind, body and soul that enters it is disintegrated for return to non-existence."

can anyone in the hst survive this?

if not, who in other verses would be able to survive this?

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#2  Edited By ArgomkII
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Yhwach can easily survive that

The Almighty is not merely the power to see the future, it is the power to alter the future. In addition to that Yhwach has Acausality Type 5, complex outerversal conceptual manipulation and can scale up to infinite layers into boundless for being able to passively merge 3 omniversal relms

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#3  Edited By GreyTheJiren

ETSB can erase time and space and Kaguya can survive it. Rinnesharingan should give resistance to mind stuff, Tsukuyomi can also destroy mind and she is invulnerable to such ability. If you believe TSB can also erase souls then Kaguya can survive that dimension. Besides her only Shibai.

Some Bleach characters should have soul resistance of that type and if I am not mistaken EE. The only thing they lack is mind resistance. So some might survive but without the mind.

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Bleach's big dogs can

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@f3m1: its from a webtoon called "kubera". i would highly reccomend reading it, the writing is unparalleled imo. the series is not a action focused series, although it does have some. really underrated.

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@princex: Thank you. I've known about the series for years now but I can't seem to get past the first chapter.

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#10  Edited By EcoBlitz

First 2 posts were cancer to read. OT they all get folded simultaneously

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What GreyTheJiren said

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There's no way anyone can survived this. So they get clownstomped by nothingness.

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@naronu saw you have a vayu pfp, thoughts

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Nope not a single one.

I lost brain cells reading the first 2 comments lmao..

The jiren guy can’t be serious lmao..

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#17  Edited By GreyTheJiren

Guys I know it's hard to think for a second and actually learn about other characters and their abilities but you should try at least.

You look silly otherwise. Not that you looked better before.

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Not a battle, moved to GD.

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I genuinely can't believe that people are open to argue it.

This is not simple EE, you get BFRd to a place where even time doesn't exist.

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#22  Edited By PlagueDocter

There are two aspects of the ability the transporting of the target and the 0 dimension where nothing can exist.

I'd reckon there are MANY people all among the HST who could avoid getting transported to the 0 Dimension and therefore survive the ability that way.

But now assuming your more talking about them surviving the actual effects of the 0 Dimension I'd reckon Tot Musica Uta could survive and if you wanna go that route Sun God Nika/G5 Luffy could maybe arguably survive aswell.

Those two could be argued to survive the effects especially Tot Musica Uta who could no sell the effects becuase of its dual dimensional existence which imparts it immunity to like everything. As anything that isn't affecting Tot Musica Uta both in the real and Uta World simultaneously, at that exact same spot, in the two different dimensions would do nothing to Tot Musica Uta (Also transporting out of the Uta World is seemingly impossible as Brulee and Blueno couldn't escape the dimension even though they both have some forms of dimensional travel so Tot Musica Uta could also no sell the transportation outright beyond just having the dual existance type immunity).

The reason for G5 Luffy arguably surviving is due to the supposed reality warping toon force aspects of G5 and the fact that G5 Luffy essentially resurrected himself from death and his soul being erased (his voice was gone as his was dead yet Luffy was resurrected completely fine, G5 could also utterly ignore his body getting damaged). Not to mention Nika can also be argued to be an immortal conceptual reality warping entity... like no joke so eh yeah it can be argued that G5 Luffy could survive one way or another though whether or not you believe G5 Luffy has that power or that you are waiting to see more is up to you, all I'm saying is that there is the possibility due to what we know right now.

Other than those I don't really know much of anyone in One Piece let alone HST which could no sell or survive the EFFECTS of this characters ability... but I do think there are a few people who could escape and stop themselves from getting transported to the 0 dimension and therefore survive the ability that way as opposed to surviving the affects of the ability as I said before.

OT: Tot Musica Uta no sells due to their dual dimensional existence which imparts essentially an immunity to everything that doesn't affect Tot Musica Uta's in the real and Uta world at the same time at the exact same spot. And maybe arguably if you want to go that route G5 Luffy (Nika) could survive the effects of the technique... I guess. No matter what there's always the possibility that there are characters that could escape or avoid getting BFR'd to the 0 dimension as opposed to just surviving the effects. Either way Tot Musica Uta at worst is like the only one who survives the ability while at best many people from the HST survive the ability.

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Guys I know it's hard to think for a second and actually learn about other characters and their abilities but you should try at least.

You look silly otherwise. Not that you looked better before.

-Grey "BC is sub mountain and Devil Hearts aren't invulnerable" Thejiren

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No, we are not silly my friend. Nothing in HST ever resisted being turned into non existence by being BFRed into a 0-dimensional space, said erasure, by the description, being passive, due to the nature of the space going against anything in it actually existing.

If you bothered to actually read instead of giving to Naruto abilities they don't possess, you'd know:

Kaguya has an attack that can destroy space and time and turn an entire dimension into nothing. And coincidentally that attack can't be used remotely and she was going to use it but got sealed before it happened. A known fact, missed that in the manga? It has has those fancy space-time, turn the world into nothing kind of description. Just curious how you happen to accept one thing for a verse but deny it for another. ETSB:

Enclosing the power of all of creation, a chaos invoking jet black orb

Taking in all chakra natures and yin and yang at once, it hides within the power to let the world come to nothing

Taking in all natures of chakra, it grows into an enormous mass. A huge ball of chaos that even reshapes the world!

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Nah man, the HST could not exist in there.

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@greythejiren said:

Guys I know it's hard to think for a second and actually learn about other characters and their abilities but you should try at least.

You look silly otherwise. Not that you looked better before.

-Grey "BC is sub mountain and Devil Hearts aren't invulnerable" Thejiren

Fell so low that you resort to such tactics now, lol. The fact that you unironically believe that devil hearts are invulnerable is sad. But the fact that you attacked me because I disagree with your insane BC wank is even more sad.

You are not obligated to reply to me you know.

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@greythejiren: I agree I'm not obligated to reply but there's no fun in that. You have verifiably bad takes and you're not obligated to spread them but here we are.

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I agree I'm not obligated to reply but there's no fun in that. You have verifiably bad takes and you're not obligated to spread them but here we are.

Bad takes in your personal opinion. In my opinion your takes are worse than mine.

And...that is 0-dimensional, because...? Her turning the space into nothingness, is nothing impressive. She is still a 3D existence, she doesn't transcend time, she is bound by physical laws, the laws of the universe, and unless she has shown resistance to getting quite literally turned into a 0-dimensional existence, then you have no argument. Once again, I question your reading comprehension:

I also question your reading comprehension, you don't see me crying about it.

Her TSO can erase space, not time itself, you'd be implying Kaguya can erase the concept of time? Which is frankly, ridiculous

It's even more ridiculous that her attack that can erase time and space, can also create time and space. Really hard to fathom that HST characters can create space and time while not being higher D, huh?

It doesn't matter what the number in front of a Dimension is. What matters is properties in said Dimension. Properties such as:

Their destination is a boundless dimension of nothingness. where nothing is permitted to exist, and every form of existence in mind, body and soul that enters it is disintegrated for return to non-existence

Which I addressed in my previous posts.

I think battleboarding helped you skew the concept of dimensions, be those higher dimensions or lower dimensions. And how they work. Not your fault, people just like jerking off dimensions for no reasons because that is cool.

Some people for some reason think that because a Dimension is N number then a character from a lower dimension or sometimes higher can't exist there. Yeah, the dimension is so high number that it destroys that puny 3D character. That's not how Dimensions work sadly. You can exist in lower dimensions or higher dimensions if you are transported there regardless of what your original dimension is, your properties will change depending on which dimension you reside. So you can stop pointing to that 0 because it means nothing really. What matters is how that particular dimension destroys everything. And again sadly for you, it is not out of the realm of Bleach and Naruto.

I just don't get your logic, you know there are characters in Bleach that can resist literal soul erasure and body erasure, right? Common fact.

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@greythejiren: It's not my opinion it's objectively true that your takes are wrong.

Take #1 "Black Clover is sub mountain" this is proven wrong by the manga.

Take #2 "Devil Heart isn't invulnerable" this is proven wrong by the manga.

There's a difference in having an opinion and ignoring the manga, you're doing the later.