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#1 Posted by del_torro (2733 posts) - - Show Bio

In The Age of Apocalypse Universe, Jean Grey while dying was able to shield New York from nuclear bombs being dropped on it. Can her 616 counterpart replicate this feat?

Can non Phoenix Jean greys Telekinetic shield withstand a Nuclear Bomb?

If yes, what level can she shield from, what level would destroy her shields? Kilotons? Megatons?

Examples of Jean greys high end shield feats

Shielding from Energy attacks from the stranger with killing intent

Shielding from a bomb blowing up an island

Shielding from Legion blowing up an island

Shielding from and flying to a white hole

Shielding herself while flying through hyperspace

Shielding from blasts from a mind controlled binary

Containing the full force of pre AvX Cyclops Optic blast (powerful enough to bust a mountain, and carve a Canyon through a mountain range)

Containing the full force of post AvX Cyclops Blast (his powers were amped and are strong enough to hurt a weakend Dormammu)

Restraining people like Hercules, The Thing, Namor.

Are these enough to infer that she could shield from atleast a low level Nuke

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#2 Posted by Lord_Spectrum (4244 posts) - - Show Bio

I think she can tank a nuke honestly.

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#4 Posted by Lord_Spectrum (4244 posts) - - Show Bio

@thor321:

Read the OP, it specifically asks whether or not she can tank it with a TELEKINETIC SHIELD.

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#6 Edited by TheWatcherKing (16633 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_spectrum said:

I think she can tank a nuke honestly.

Any reason why? Not saying you're wrong btw.

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#7 Edited by Lord_Spectrum (4244 posts) - - Show Bio

@thewatcherking:

She has feats like tanking a blast from The Stranger, who is a cosmic being ranked among the likes other cosmic beings like Big G, Odin and so on, as well tanking a blast from Binary who was harnessing energy from a white hole, essentially amped, while regular Binary is a legit planetbuster.

Basically you can check out Jean's small respect threads all feats are from there, she has enough IMO to consider that she cank tank nukes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/5mzy5o/respect_jean_grey_marvel_616/

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#8 Posted by del_torro (2733 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, that The Strangers blasts are what knocked juggernaut to be on the ground groaning in that scan

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#9 Posted by mimisalome (4572 posts) - - Show Bio

Logically, no.

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#10 Posted by del_torro (2733 posts) - - Show Bio

@mimisalome: hmm, interesting, why do you believe so?

I thought mountain or Island busting would be be close to or at least right below nuke level.

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#11 Posted by Mooty_Pass (8472 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes. Jean’s TK abilities are pretty impressive. A Nuke should be no problem...maybe a bit straining, but no problem.

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#12 Posted by mimisalome (4572 posts) - - Show Bio

@mimisalome: hmm, interesting, why do you believe so?

I thought mountain or Island busting would be be close to or at least right below nuke level.

By the usual artist portrayal, you can see that electromagnetic radiation (visible light being the most evident) can penetrate the generally transparent "telekinetic shield".

Logically it would mean that any intense em radiation and/or photon flux would also penetrate the shield carrying enough energy to burn any person on the other side in the case of a close proximity nuclear explosion.

At least that is my analysis of the case.

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#13 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

I imagine she could

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#14 Posted by _KingofLatveria (15271 posts) - - Show Bio

Her shields lasted pretty well against Binary who could planet bust. I'm pretty sure they'd no sell it.

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#15 Edited by KrleAvenger (25299 posts) - - Show Bio

@_kingoflatveria: Um mate, she didn't destroy a planet with her own damage output/destructive power. She caused a chain reaction which destroyed a planet. That does not make her a planet buster, and her feats are inferior even compared to non planet busters.

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#16 Posted by _KingofLatveria (15271 posts) - - Show Bio

@krleavenger: what was the chain reaction? I haven't read the comic myself being honest.

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#17 Posted by del_torro (2733 posts) - - Show Bio

@_kingoflatevaria: yeah, if you check the original issue where she fought the brood queen, it was a chain reaction that destroyed the planet.

Still, binary was directly hooked into a white hole and fully charged, she's recovered a drained starship, destroyed Spaceships with her blasts and destroyed Punishers that can tank blasts from pre annihilation Silver Surfer.

So her blasts still pack a punch,just a bit harder to quantity.

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#18 Edited by KrleAvenger (25299 posts) - - Show Bio
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#20 Posted by XLR87T3 (8137 posts) - - Show Bio

@mimisalome: hmm, interesting, why do you believe so?

I thought mountain or Island busting would be be close to or at least right below nuke level.

Nuke level is below mountain busting. You'd need a couple of nukes to destroy a mountain

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#21 Posted by del_torro (2733 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump, want to get more opinions

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#22 Posted by Batvibe12 (3635 posts) - - Show Bio

She should be.