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#1 Posted by Rubear (4643 posts) - - Show Bio

You thought that unworthiness is the end of fall? You were so wrong...

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#2 Posted by FearSinestro (251 posts) - - Show Bio

wait what

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#3 Posted by Mrnoital (8039 posts) - - Show Bio

and if the covers are spoilers

then so are these guys

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#4 Posted by Batvibe12 (5652 posts) - - Show Bio

Hail Hydra!!!!!!!

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#5 Posted by Mark_Stephen (2616 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel is determined to trash as many characters as they can with this event aren't they?

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#6 Posted by Rubear (4643 posts) - - Show Bio

Hail Hydra!!!!!!!

Honestly, i'm starting to believe that Nick Spencer is agent of Hydra.

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#7 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

Fans angry at you for screwing with beloved characters and decades of continuity and canon.... turn all your characters Nazi. That should make everything better right?

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#8 Posted by Prospero_Locke (1081 posts) - - Show Bio

based off what is posted, if cap is the sleeper agent of hydra and the leader of avengers, then yes that would make anyone who follows his orders an "agent of hydra" im missing the big point unless they can all hear him and have been turned to hydra at an earlier point

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#9 Posted by Black_Arrow (10258 posts) - - Show Bio

based off what is posted, if cap is the sleeper agent of hydra and the leader of avengers, then yes that would make anyone who follows his orders an "agent of hydra" im missing the big point unless they can all hear him and have been turned to hydra at an earlier point

In the comic is pretty clear that Hydra is running things, their logo is everywhere and everybody says Hail Hydre. The heroes are publicly outlaws, so if Thor doesn't know that he is working for Hydra, then he is the stupidiest character on the universe.

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#10 Posted by mrmonster (15184 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay, is anyone not a HYDRA agent at this point?

Seriously, this is getting old. It was cool when Cap was secretly HYDRA, but the same reveal gets old pretty quickly.

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#11 Posted by Dernman (25981 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrmonster said:

It was cool when Cap was secretly HYDRA

No it wasn't.

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#12 Posted by LpnQ (3954 posts) - - Show Bio

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...nerary for Marvel.

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#13 Posted by Thorthunder98 (6679 posts) - - Show Bio

So every hero is hydra now?

Marvel just letting us all know our favourite heroes are Nazis cooool!

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#14 Posted by TrueMoonchilde (2089 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel went to **** after Hickman concluded his Avengers run. I currently don't get anything by them. Can't wait for this to just get completely ret-conned out of existence. At least the movies are still good.

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#15 Edited by Black_Arrow (10258 posts) - - Show Bio

So every hero is hydra now?

Marvel just letting us all know our favourite heroes are Nazis cooool!

No just Odinson, Scarlet Witch, Vision and Deadpool (if you wish to call him hero). The rest are the rebels fighting against Cap.

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#16 Edited by Rubear (4643 posts) - - Show Bio

@black_arrow said:
@thorthunder98 said:

So every hero is hydra now?

Marvel just letting us all know our favourite heroes are Nazis cooool!

No just Odinson, Scarlet Witch, Vision and Deadpool (if you wish to call him hero). The rest are the rebels fighting against Cap.

Some are trapped in space or darkforce. Some are not seen yet, for example X-men.
Rebels? Champs, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Thing and AI Stark. So much for rebellion.

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#17 Edited by destinyman75 (14309 posts) - - Show Bio

Wtf?? Tell me the names and addresses of those responsible and I'll clear them out for there utter stupidity... Thinking on it I'm starting to think that the REAL Thor isnt Unworthy Thor at all nor Jane this is probably civil war skrulls all over again only thing that makes sense....they keep this up I'm going to say Make mine DC....

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#18 Edited by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

So not only was Thor an unworthy drunkard who was absolutely useless but now he's a Hydra lackey through some kind of mind control device?

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#19 Posted by Rubear (4643 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

So not only was Thor an unworthy drunkard who was absolutely useless but now he's a Hydra lackey through some kind of mind control device?

For now no mind controlling of Thor was shown. So we can assume that he is also voluntary Hydra lackey.

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#20 Posted by Thor_Parker82 (16139 posts) - - Show Bio
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#21 Posted by FearSinestro (251 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Don't forget he thinks Gorr was right.

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#22 Posted by IceDemonKing (9990 posts) - - Show Bio

Not the worse thing to ever happen.

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#23 Posted by Rubear (4643 posts) - - Show Bio

@rubear: What issue is that ??

Secret Empire #1, of course. I heard that Captain Hydra lifted Mjolnir somehere in free comic day book as well?)

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#24 Posted by Batvibe12 (5652 posts) - - Show Bio

@rubear said:
@batvibe12 said:

Hail Hydra!!!!!!!

Honestly, i'm starting to believe that Nick Spencer is agent of Hydra.

I'm pretty sure he is :)

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#25 Posted by Rubear (4643 posts) - - Show Bio

@rubear said:
@batvibe12 said:

Hail Hydra!!!!!!!

Honestly, i'm starting to believe that Nick Spencer is agent of Hydra.

I'm pretty sure he is :)

Then this is accurate photo, fact. xD

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#26 Edited by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@rubear: But fluoride was listed as one of the chemical components in the mind control substance Hydra is putting into the water supply to make the populace more docile and obedient. It's not unlikely that Thor, Vision and Wanda are being mind controlled too.

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@lvenger: Don't forget he thinks Gorr was right.

Of course how could I forget that BS?

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#27 Posted by Rubear (4643 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@rubear: But fluoride was listed as one of the chemical components in the mind control substance Hydra is putting into the water supply to make the populace more docile and obedient. It's not unlikely that Thor, Vision and Wanda are being mind controlled too.

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@lvenger: Don't forget he thinks Gorr was right.

Of course how could I forget that BS?

Since when Vision is drinking water and is vulnerable to mind control of anything not of Charles Xavier level? About that chemical components - i was under impression that it's working only on common citizens.
And fluoride is hardly best mind controlling thing... lol.

More than 70 years of scientific research has consistently shown that an optimal level of fluoride in community water is safe and effective in preventing tooth decay by at least 25% in both children and adults. Simply by drinking water, Americans can benefit from fluoride's cavity protection whether they are at home, work or school. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention named community water fluoridation one of 10 great public health achievements of the 20th century.

Or - scary thought - it's mind controlling thing and american goverment is using it right now.

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#28 Posted by Prospero_Locke (1081 posts) - - Show Bio

@black_arrow: I haven't read anything going on with any of this so I didn't know that. I follow the articles on here about it, but haven't read any of it. so does that mean that deadpool, thor, scarlet witch, taskmaster, antman, vision are all hydra agents?

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#29 Posted by Rubear (4643 posts) - - Show Bio

@black_arrow: I haven't read anything going on with any of this so I didn't know that. I follow the articles on here about it, but haven't read any of it. so does that mean that deadpool, thor, scarlet witch, taskmaster, antman, vision are all hydra agents?

Taskmaster and Black Ant get caught by Hydra after they found out that Steve is Hyrda and get an offer - take a new job and lot of money or die. Deadpool is merk. What's the deal with others is unknown, but for some reasons they're all working on Hydra now.

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#30 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel was mad at people not buying their SJW comics. So they make all the fan favorites into Nazis.

Yup, no agenda here.

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#31 Edited by Number1Boss (197 posts) - - Show Bio

This is annoying.

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#32 Posted by SpitfirePanda (2573 posts) - - Show Bio

Wasn't the Empire in Star Wars based off of the Nazis? Isn't Darth Vader a really popular character, while also being a space nazi? Honestly, this might be an improvement for Marvel.

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#33 Posted by theCrazyBean (1839 posts) - - Show Bio

I say "re" and you say "boot"

Re

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#34 Posted by Amendment50 (15428 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sure this will end well

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#35 Posted by Jonez_ (11445 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel was mad at people not buying their SJW comics. So they make all the fan favorites into Nazis.

Yup, no agenda here.

Nah they're just doing it for shock value money.

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#36 Posted by HeroUp2112 (18268 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel is determined to trash as many characters as they can with this event aren't they?

Doom on you Spencer.

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#37 Posted by Gotoucanario (2958 posts) - - Show Bio

Gor was right

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#38 Posted by phantomjolt (727 posts) - - Show Bio

And my brain Anuerism grew three times that day, and thats why i only read thanos and ultimates from marvel

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#39 Posted by deactivated-5b2dd32201ad6 (2795 posts) - - Show Bio

I find this story interesting, actually.

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#40 Posted by CaptainMarvel4Ever (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@prospero_locke said:

based off what is posted, if cap is the sleeper agent of hydra and the leader of avengers, then yes that would make anyone who follows his orders an "agent of hydra" im missing the big point unless they can all hear him and have been turned to hydra at an earlier point

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#41 Edited by MOWJACK (1297 posts) - - Show Bio

@rubear: @lvenger: that mind control thing is actually called project monarch and the nazi's called it operation paperclip.

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#42 Posted by comicace3 (12434 posts) - - Show Bio

This is actually starting to become funny. I dunno about you guys but I'm gonna keep reading my DC comics till shit begins to simmer down in Marvel.

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#43 Posted by deactivated-5967bf6197d40 (2560 posts) - - Show Bio

This is actually starting to become funny. I dunno about you guys but I'm gonna keep reading my DC comics till shit begins to simmer down in Marvel.

I'm gonna keep reading old trades myself.

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#44 Posted by Warlockmage (9220 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel is determined to trash as many characters as they can with this event aren't they?

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#45 Edited by WeAreTheFlash (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm calling it. Nick Fury is Hydra.

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#46 Posted by HeirToTheKingdom (9211 posts) - - Show Bio
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#47 Posted by kgb725 (18776 posts) - - Show Bio

People are such crybabies

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#48 Posted by vinomonster (5566 posts) - - Show Bio

Pass.. Gonna read DC instead. Hopefully Legacy is better. *Jason Aaron*

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#49 Edited by Thekillerklok (9977 posts) - - Show Bio

Whelp, Nazi avengers could be interesting... I mean I'm sure they are going to fudge this up but still.

calling it now the big reveal is that the avengers are not really nazi's.

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#50 Posted by antithetical (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh hey, look, another Marvel event I have absolutely no interest in reading.