Black Panther or Avengers: Infinity War?

Infinity war easily. Finally seeing all the characters join forces tops anything we've seen imo

Infinity War.

Black Panther is a solid movie but Infinity War is better in every aspect.

Both amazing but I like team movies better. So IW.

Black Panther, loved it, but I love Infinity War more. Too fun seeing everyone join the party.

Infinity War.

Avengers: Infinity War

Can't beat the "event". We waited so long for it and Marvel absolutely delivered.

Black Panther was great and probably technically was a better film, but IW is a Marvel fan's wetdream.

Yup, INFINITY WAR.

Black Panther remains my fav solo MCU tho

Black Panther is a better film and I think has better rewatchability. We’re all hyped about AIW right now (with good reason), but I think BP will have more value five or ten years from now.

I love BP and it's top 5 in my Mcu list becuz it is different and what the genre needed a shot of.

But IW is truly on another level. It's up there with TDK and Spider-man 2 as all time best CBM movie imo. It's not fan service or not an all Stars 'look what we can do cuz we're so successful, let's toot our own horn' extravaganza. On a film making level, it is a remarkable feat and just a once in a while truly great film that was pulled together.

Infinity War

I don't like comparing the solo to team-ups. Black Panther,Winter Soldier & Infinity War are my No.1 though.

Infinity War godstomp

This is nuts. Black Panther is the only solo hero in the top 10 ww.

IW, I liked BP but not to that degree. It's TWS level.

I still don't get how avatar was so popular.

Infinity War is infinitely more hype than Black Panther, and I loved Black Panther. Black Panther may be more important of a movie, especially for representation and black culture, but IW is a cultural event of a slightly larger magnitude. It's close but IW is better. These two movies contain all the best MCU villains though, I can say that much. Between Thanos, Loki and Killmonger.

So much for the Rotten Tomatoes critics saying Black Panther is better. It is not even close.

BP is the most overrated movie I’ve ever seen. It was absolute garbage before Micheal B Jordan started getting more screen time.

Black Panther was a better movie

Infinity War was better nerdgasm fulfillment

BP is the most overrated MCU movie for known reasons. IW is better in every aspect.

These two are different movie all together bc yes they are both mcu superhero movie, but one is self contain, one is the combination of all the MCU film put in a film and meant to be a first parter. I felt like Infinity war was about as great of a movie as it could had been. BP was great, but the action scene were underwhelming aside for the car chase scene, the effects were not that great, but the style and world building overcame that, but I felt that it could improve in some area. So infinty war for me, but not by much.

IW.

Infinity war.

Looking at how much Rotten Tomato users like Infinity War compared to how many liked Black Panther (93% vrs 79%) and how much better it scored on IMDB (9.0 vrs 7.7), there is really no contest. The 88% to 12% reading here is also very indicative. I liked Black Panther but the end was extremely formulaic and IMO it is only better than Thor Dark World, Hulk and Iron Man 3 among movies that are considered to be MCU.

I like Black Panther a lot, but Infinity War easily wins this. It was a once in a lifetime event, with so many jaw dropping and OMG moments. In addition:

• Thanos is a superior villain to Killmonger.
• The pacing was better.
• The action sequences are miles better.
• The humour was funnier and better handled.
• More emotional weight.
• Superior ending.
• Greater visual variety.

IW

Infinity War

Black Panther is a good movie, but not that good. There's too many problems with it, not least of which is that BP himself is super boring.

Black Panther was a good movie but highly overrated. IW on the other hand actually delivered.

In my opinion Black Panther didn't live up to the hype. It was good but no better than other superhero films like Ant Man. Infinity War, on the other hand, really surprised me in a great way.

I liked BP more than IW. Don't really care I'm in the minority.

You don't think BP is better than Ant-Man? Can you explain why because I am sure most don't think that at all.

I agree with the 3rd act criticism but how does that knock it down to bottom 5 MCU film? You think Iron Man 2 and Ant Man are better than BP? in what ways - I know opinion is subjective. But I feel in general on this forum people confuse what's objectively a good well made film with what they like better which are two entirely different things. On a pure narrative basis, BP is better than half the MCU films. I love Iron Man 2 but I don't think it's a good or great film though. Most people have it ranked in their bottom 5 lists.

Infinity War may be the best CBM.

IW is much better. I honestly feel Black Panther is a little overrated. Not a bad film by any means, but there are other Marvel movies which I think are better.

Infinity War and it’s not close. Black Panther was your typical “good” MCU film, Infinity War was a straight up spectacle.

I really enjoy most of the MCU movies. They are well made, action packed, funny and with good actors that are well cast. The only one I did not like is Hulk, but that was made by a different studio. 5 of these well made films have to be in the bottom 5. IMO Black Panther is one of the bottom 5 because the formulaic ending where the cavalry came in and saved the day just felt cheesy to me a way that no MCU film has ever felt.

Here is a list of films ordered by Rotten Tomato audience score, and below that, my personal order. They are very much similar except I really liked Iron Man 2 and thought Iron Man 1 was only marginally more entertaining. Rotten Tomatoes has Black Panther bottom 7, I have it bottom 5.

Avengers: Infinity War 93

Guardians of the Galaxy 92

Captain America: Winter Soldier 92

Iron Man 91

Marvel's The Avengers 91

Captain America: Civil War 89

Spider-Man: Homecoming 88

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 88

Thor: Ragnarok 87

Ant-Man 86

Doctor Strange 86

Avengers: Age of Ultron 83

Black Panther 79

Iron Man 3 78

Thor: The Dark World 77

Thor 76

Captain America: First Avenger 74

Iron Man 2- 72

The Incredible Hulk 71

My personal list- Avengers: Infinity War, Captain America: Winter Soldier, Captain America: Civil War, Guardians of the Galaxy, Spider-Man: Homecoming, Marvel's The Avengers, Thor: Ragnarok, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Avengers: Age of Ultron, Ant-Man, Doctor Strange, Captain America: First Avenger, Black Panther, Thor, Thor: The Dark World, Iron Man 3,The Incredible Hulk.

Good list. But I don't jive with those audience scores.

Wasn't the BP audience score the one that was rumored to be downvoted by racist Facebook trolls?

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2018/02/18/black-panther-and-more-audience-score-problems-for-rotten-tomatoes-and-methttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-panther-rotten-tomatoes-denounces-group-taking-aim-at-movie-1081081a

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-panther-rotten-tomatoes-denounces-group-taking-aim-at-movie-1081081

That score seems funky to me since anectdotally even you have to admit more people liked BP than you did obviously by its success. By metrics like cinemascore, critical RT score and box office legs that 79% seems funky to me.

Look at the critical and BO performance of other films with a audience score and BP did better than all of them. So clearly audiences liked it more than not otherwise it wouldn't have had good legs or WOM. It's the leggiest MCU film to date. So something about that doesn't jive/add up.

Why didn't you use the critical score ranking of BP which is 96% and the highest MCU RT score to date? lol! 371 critics reviews seems like a good sample size.

BP had some great moments but i think it went on for too long and it weakened towards the end.

@madcrusher: I agree, the score probably is a little bit funky. So I looked into it further. BP got around 77,000 votes. So I deducted 2000 votes, figuring that is the ceiling number of how many people joined in to the smear campaign. Deducting 2000 don't likes brings it up to a 81%. That still may not be accurate because how many more stray haters and prejudiced people voted? There could be another way to figure this out and I might do it if I have an hour to spare later.

Because the critics (particularly top rated critics) were afraid to say that they did not like it as that might make them seem prejudiced.

A 79% rating seems funky, as does the 100% rating by top rated critics. To put this in perspective, when you add up the rotten tomatoes for Spiderman Homecoming, Thor Ragnarok and Guardians 2, top rated critics gave them a combined 24 rottens (that is an average of 8 rotten tomatoes per outstanding movie). The same critics gave Black Panther zero rottens. Black Panther is NOT that much better than any of those 3 movies. An argument can be made that it is not better than ANY of them.

@madcrusher: It took a little more than an hour but I did it. I looked through Rotten Tomato audience ratings on how they rated Black Panther, Spider Man Homecoming and Thor Ragnarok on a scale of 1/2 to 5 stars. I did not count 1/2 star and 1 star ratings as there was too great a chance that these ratings were cast by "haters" (In some cases DC fan boys, in some cases, racially prejudiced people, and also people using multiple accounts). I counted 132 ratings for each film. I counted the latest votes. In order of how well they scored- Spider Man HC 4.07, Thor Ragnarok 4.02, Black Panther 3.83.

We would probably get much higher scores out of the top 6 movies on the above list. Black Panther's 3.83 would probably run neck and neck with Dr Strange and Ant Man (maybe higher maybe lower) but at the end of the day Black Panther would be in no higher than 9th place, which is not a bad thing because most MCU movies are very well made, entertaining movies.

Black Panther is super overrated for obvious reasons but, Infinity War is about as perfect as you can get for a movie of its scale with all the characters and ambition it encompassed