Better three movies: Thor or John Wick?

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Posted by Ghostodoofus2 (2314 posts) 3 months, 28 days ago

Poll: Better three movies: Thor or John Wick? (47 votes)

Thor 11%
John Wick 89%
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#1 Edited by shroudofsorrow (6249 posts) - - Show Bio

The Thor trilogy is far from my favorite part of the MCU, but I've never seen the John Wick movies (and have no interest in doing so). So I guess the Thor movies.

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#2 Posted by PayneInTheAss (12815 posts) - - Show Bio

Haven´t seen the third but I think

But John Wick 1 & 2 >> Thor 1 & 2

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#4 Edited by Ghostodoofus2 (2314 posts) - - Show Bio

@payneintheass: The third is the best by far. I love the worldbuilding and the hints of other stories happening at the same time.

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#5 Posted by King-Ragnar (5123 posts) - - Show Bio

Wick, by a mile.

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#6 Posted by Y2G (466 posts) - - Show Bio

Easily John Wick. All 3 movies are better than any of the Thor movies. Wick vs Cap is a better comparison and I'd still go Wick.

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#7 Posted by Ghostodoofus2 (2314 posts) - - Show Bio

@y2g: The Winter Soldier is too strong a movie to be compared to any of the Wick films but comparing all the films, I think Wick's is more consistent.

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#9 Edited by shroudofsorrow (6249 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghostodoofus2 said:

@shroudofsorrow: Truly unfair to vote against them until you've seen them.

Yeah, you're probably right. But remember though that I am utterly uninterested in the Wick movies, so on that level, I would say the Thor movies because the Wick films are such that I wouldn't even be bothered to see them. To be honest, semi-grounded action movies by and large don't appeal to me. Generally if I want action, chases, martial arts fights, and explosions I stick with superheroes, who I almost always find to be more interesting, more compelling, and cooler looking, as well as having more interesting stories and more human drama and heart. I also think they usually have better villains. The sociopath-hardened criminal-gangster-terrorist bad guys in things like Taken and John Wick get old pretty fast, and definitely don't a candle to someone like Killmonger, Thanos, or even Keaton's Vulture. Basically, I just think that a lot of those movies (Wick, Taken, Equalizer, Jack Reacher, etc.) all just kind of blend together to me.

Again, I don't think the Thor movies are the best of the MCU by any stretch. I have my problems with all of them (even the third one), but at the same time, those kinds of movies are more to my liking because they appeal more to my sensibilities and tastes. Finally, I'm not a big Keanu Reeves fan. I love Bram Stoker's Dracula, but he was also the worst thing in it.

Of course to be fair, the Wick films are probably better than Thor: The Dark World, so there is that.

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#10 Edited by Ghostodoofus2 (2314 posts) - - Show Bio

@shroudofsorrow: Fair enough, John Wick is Keanu's best role by far though. I would not put John Wick in the same sentence as Taken, John Wick has a lore and there is world-building, the first movie had a simple plot but was executed stylishly and introduced the world it is set in; the sequels expand on the universe, introducing a system and hinting more back stories as well as other events happening, foreshadowing future events as well. The director Chad Stahelski actually makes effort to build a mythology. To me, John Wick is more comparable to movies like Sin City and the Quentin Tarantino movies, not movies like Taken or Die Hard, if you know what I mean. Wick has a lot of action but it's storytelling fall into the thriller and noir genre.

John Wick is really not a generic action movie. It opens doors to more stories set in the same universe.

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#11 Posted by MonsterStomp (36987 posts) - - Show Bio

This a odd af match up.

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#12 Edited by Ghostodoofus2 (2314 posts) - - Show Bio

@shroudofsorrow: Also I'm not sure of what exactly you're trying to say here but if you think comic book villains are better than villains introduced in other mediums by default then I respectfully disagree. I don't think fancy costumes and superpowers should make a character unequivocally better than another; having nice aesthetics don't necessarily give a character substance.

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#13 Posted by Ghostodoofus2 (2314 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp: More odd than the "Would X and Y make a good couple?" matchups?

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#14 Posted by GateOfBabylon (5221 posts) - - Show Bio

Ragnarok was the only one that was great out of the Thor trilogy.

John Wick trilogy is just consistently spectacular and one of the top action movies out there. The third one didn't disappoint and was just as good, if not better.

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@ghostodoofus2 said:

@shroudofsorrow: Also I'm not sure of what exactly you're trying to say here but if you think comic book villains are better than villains introduced in other mediums by default then I respectfully disagree. I don't think fancy costumes and superpowers should make a character unequivocally better than another; having nice aesthetics don't necessarily give a character substance.

Except those aren't my only reasons. I also didn't say all other mediums, just villains from stuff like John Wick and especially stuff like Taken. A character like Thanos has nuance and gravitas (not to mention sympathetic motives), that I simply don't see in the armies of interchangeable shaved-head, leather jacket and jeans wearing thugs, gangsters, down-to-earth sociopaths, etc that are the stock and trade of movies like John Wick. It isn't just for their cooler looks and awesome powers that I prefer them; they also just feel like they have more thought put into them, and often, more depth as well. They feel more like individuals. And I feel sorry for and see the humanity in, say, Alfred Molina's Doc Ock in a way that I simply don't for the thugs in John Wick.

And again, I never said I liked supervillains better than all other medium's villains. But a character like Thanos or Doctor Doom is leagues ahead of someone like Ms. Perkins.

I do take your points regarding Wick being more "Neo-Noir" then "Taken-lite" though. Myself, I might argue John Wick is sort of a bridge between the two; not totally unlike Taken or Sin City, but also not the same as either.

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#16 Posted by Emperorb777 (11631 posts) - - Show Bio

john Wick no contest.

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#17 Posted by Ghostodoofus2 (2314 posts) - - Show Bio

@shroudofsorrow: Ah, sorry for my misunderstanding. Well yeah, villains are more likeable when you understand their motivations and what they experienced to drive them nuts. In most typical action films you're not meant to understand or like the villains, so I get where you're coming from.

Sounds about right, Wick is a bridge between John Woo and Frank Miller.

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#18 Posted by shroudofsorrow (6249 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghostodoofus2: I think that your next poll should compare the Wick films to the Craig Bond films and/or the Jason Bourne films. Those movies may not have the Neo noir elements of John Wick, but I still think they're more similar to each-other than any of them to the Thor films.

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#19 Posted by Ghostodoofus2 (2314 posts) - - Show Bio

@shroudofsorrow: Hmm good idea, maybe a little later, the John Wick hype is pretty on right now and there's already a lot of JW threads.

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#20 Posted by shroudofsorrow (6249 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghostodoofus2: I was actually thinking of doing one myself. Namely a comparison between him and Reeves' other most well-known role, Neo.

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#21 Posted by MethoKi (12589 posts) - - Show Bio

I've never seen John Wick, but I'm pretty sure nothing could be as bad as The Dark World. Ragnarok was pretty okay.

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#22 Edited by Y2G (466 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghostodoofus2: That's fair. I prefer JW2 to Winter Solider (barely) but they are both amongst my top 5 favorite movies ever.

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#23 Posted by MAZAHS117 (13578 posts) - - Show Bio

I’d much rather watch Wick terminate people than any of Thor films

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#24 Posted by JohnCena69swag (4173 posts) - - Show Bio

The John wick trilogy is hands down better than any mcu trilogy.

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#25 Posted by EternalDarkFury (3428 posts) - - Show Bio

John Wick

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#26 Posted by rogueshadow (29589 posts) - - Show Bio

John Wick.

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#27 Posted by IndomitableRegal (17617 posts) - - Show Bio

Jonh Wick by far. One could legitimately argue that the first 2 Thor movies are among the worst of the MCU (Ragnarok was great though).

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#28 Posted by g2_ (12770 posts) - - Show Bio

Wick stomps.

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#29 Posted by TheSuperor (7012 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor has one good movie, Wick has three

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#30 Edited by deactivated-5cf823e3012e8 (449 posts) - - Show Bio

Wick. By far.

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#31 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (18700 posts) - - Show Bio

Any John Wick film is better than all of theThor films.

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#32 Posted by GeorgeWBush (12637 posts) - - Show Bio

Wick no contest

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#33 Posted by TheAmazingSpidey (17932 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Thor: Ragnarok
  2. John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
  3. Thor
  4. John Wick: Chapter 2
  5. Thor: The Dark World
  6. John Wick