Better Striking Feat without Momentum: MCU Thor or DCEU Superman and Zod?

@saihuter: If you're referring to visuals, Thor knocks Superman and Zod's balloon buster shockwaves out of the park.

Thor's feat here was clearly better

Superman and Zod's

If you are referring to scaling...

Behold the bell-ended bias towards DC, Bay Hiltsy Man

Clearly Thor

The ones who don't need a weapon.

Superman and Zod's of course

Fact Superman and Zod are nearly half the votes shows what'a wrong with CV rn. DCEU bias and wank is absolutely disgusting.

@gaoron: lmao

@gaoron said:

"DCEU bias and wank"

Wow, MCU fans are really calling DCEU wanked in 2023? Last i checked, Superman and Zod aren't being wanked to planet level unlike MCU Thor and Carol.

With mjolnir he hits harder than zod, idk if he hits harder than superman cause I can't decide if I want to scale superman to steppenwolf or not when it comes to striking.

@jurance: Your checking abilities are lacking then because Superman is wanked to planet level all the time. But I'm not even talking about that as easily ignorable people who put Thor or Superman at planet level are rare incidents not worth attention.

I'm talking about simple situations like this when people compare feat to feat, character to character, and DCEU fans voting for their favorites out of principle even if they are objectively wrong. You could have replace that Zod and Superman gif with Batman punching some random thug and DCEU fanboys would still vote for that.

Thor hits harder with Mjolnir. Superman and Zod hit harder without gear

Bait thread. And if any comment doesn't go MCUs way, then there are problems.

OT: Of course, in this instance Thors. It doesn't mean he strikes harder than either of the Krypronians though

You know there's like other striking feats right?

Funni how even with the bait the poll is accurate.

Thor and it’s not close lmaooooo

Ummm Thor by a million times.

Superman can't even hit as hard as Black Panther.

Duo

Thor and it's not close. Better comparison would be the Snyder cut or the bull rush

@rajjarsalt: Talking about someone's bias is ironic for you raj.

OT: Thor

From the two gifs, it's easily Thor. Is everyone going to pretend that he doesn't have a magic hammer, though?

I no bias @ all

Aye!

@rajjarsalt: You constantly vote for MCU, especially Thor. You even said he could win against a comic version of Superman. I could understand if you vote MCU just because you think they have the best feats out of all the CBM's, but more often than not, you let your opinion turn into bias. (No Disrespect)

While this is really good evidence of bias, it would apply to everyone except me. I say things like not because of bias, but because of a thing called right of conquest. I have folded the Thanos expert on MCU Thor vs 616 Avatar Thanos with only one post. I also defeated him in a comics debate, so it's not just a MCU thing.

Zod & Supes easily. There is nothing great about a Pansy with a hammer strike a sloth could telegraph.

LMAO ppl are gonna look at the two GIFs in the OP and pretend the answer isn't clear as day

DCEU fanboys and their cope never fail to make me laugh

@rajjarsalt: Raj, just because you make someone concede in a CaV for one post doesn't mean anything, and it still doesn't mean your character wins. You have to do better than that.

These two strikes aren’t comparable, which is why Thor’s is easily more impressive. The thread is essentially comparing a Kryptonian punch with Mjolnir.

Is there any evidence suggesting that Worthy Cap or Jane couldn’t duplicate Thor’s strike in the gif?

No and why would we want to prove something like that? Worthy Cap and Jane got powered up by the same worthiness enchantment that human Thor used to become a god again.

@rajjarsalt: human thor? Hmmm so that means humans can survive attack from the destroyer armour? Interesting.

Well that slap did pretty much do him in, IIRC he was right about to die and Mjolnir saved him

That's precisely my point, it's such a poor matchup and the coping fanboys still wanna pretend that the Kryptonians' strikes are superior.

Your second statement is completely irrelevant to this thread, since they have Thor's stats

Awakened Thor striking>Mjolnir Thor striking confirmed by Odin himself. So even without a weapon, Thor>Clark in striking.

It means something imo. It shows that I can make arguments to back up my claims. I don't just vote MCU because it's MCU lol. I always have a reason for my vote, which is backed up by mountains of evidence. What I mean is, I'm not known for my votes on threads, rather I'm known for the amount of evidence I have discovered and revealed.

Like you said this

I could understand if you vote MCU just because you think they have the best feats out of all the CBM's,

And like, yea, that's the reason

I was using Cap and Jane as a point of reference, showing that Thor’s strike in the OT is rather meaningless since anyone who can lift the hammer could duplicate it.

@nassergrant19: When did Odin confirm that?

Ragnarok

@rajjarsalt: Ok then. Show me why MCU Thor can beat N52 Superman.

But whosoever lifts the hammer, if s/he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor!

Mmm well ok here's a route to victory. I don't know what you think of Thor but I'll use what has been a commonly accepted feat for him for quite a long time. So I'm not going to wank him (hopefully) by your standards.

Superman gets harmed via electrocution by natural lightning.

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Orm Marius, otherwise known as Ocean Master, also straight up defeats him with natural lightning.

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This isn't to say Superman's durability is being lowballed. It's just the nature of this attack, in that its power permeates into his internal organs, his cells, the synapses firing in his brain (blame those neurons!), things like that, whereas other energies wouldn't even get past his skin. There are also some Superman-unique arguments when it comes to lightning, like his power getting sapped or whatever, but those aren't N52 instances. And even though the nature between N52 and Post Crisis characters has been linked in future comics, I don't think I'll need them.

As for Thor, I will use a calculation on his lightning when he powered up Iron Man's arc reactor.

The Arc Reactor of the Mk VI Iron Man suit has an output is above 10 gigawatts, or 10 gigajoules per second. Scaling off the Mk I's Arc Reactor, which has a 3 GW output and 15 minute duration, which was stated by Tony Stark in the first Iron Man movie and only improved...

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The total capacity of the Mk VI is 10 GJ/sec * 15 min * 60 sec/min = 9000 GJ = 9 TJ

Thor overloads the suit to 475%.

Now, this doesn't tell us much without assuming how full Tony was at the time.

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Since Iron Man's RT was 63%, the answer to the question is clear.

475-63=412. The energy is 4.12 * 9 TJ = 37.08 TJ.

37.08 TJ = 37080 GJ, which is thousands of times more powerful than natural lightning, thusly Thor should be able to defeat him.

Also, Superman can be harmed really easily by mundane magical objects. For example he gets injured by some old teeth due to its magical nature, and we know it's not because they are tough teeth because he straight up smashes them to bits and Cyborg outright says it.

Thus, Thor's hammer, a powerful item of magical nature, can do significant damage to him.

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This is 100 percent correct…. You are not the god of hammers!!!! His striking > Mjolnir post Rag.. in fact let me just make a simple scaling chain.

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Took ten+ Mjolnir strikes to bust the bifrost bridge in Thor 1

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OT: The Thor gif in the OP is clearly better, and not near Thors current level, at least 10x less than his current punches.

@rajjarsalt: I'm sorry, but no. Most of the stuff in your post was wrong. But, forgive me, I not in the mood to debunk what was wrong. Possibly another day, but not now.