Better movie - Captain Marvel or Wonder Woman
Haven't seen Captain Marvel yet, but Wonder Woman, IMO, is one of the best superhero movies of the decade along with The Winter Soldier and Infinity War, with TWS being my favorite, followed by IW and then WW. I doubt CM is going to be better. However, I'll abstain from voting until I see the movie.
WW is probably a better movie in terms of quality but Captain Marvel looks like it will be better for people 12 and under
@theamazingspidey What do you think?
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OP: It says a lot about the quality of both films that even though Captain Marvel is fresh in my mind, and even though I've seen Wonder Woman at least 3 times, I still think WW is the better movie. If the movie is good enough, recency bias will give the latest movie the edge, but I honestly feel WW was better than CM by quite a significant margin. WW felt fresh and powerful in it's optimism, and inspired me in a way I hadn't been moved by a superhero movie in a long time. When I left WW, I felt like I could take on the entire world. I felt like I had the capacity to do good, and felt like I wanted to do good." When I left CM, I felt "well, that was a decent time at the movies!" One had a much stronger impact than the other.
Here is my review for Captain Marvel, and here is my review for Wonder Woman for comparison.
Could't you have just waited one more week? Now the DCEU fanboys voting 1's and WW and the MCU fanboys voting 10s and CM without even watching the bloody film.
It's probably a little premature for this poll. In my preliminary opinion I would say captain marvel is better because its non stop action and it has an array of recognized characters from captain marvel while wonder woman lacked the fantasy aspect with monsters and gods that could have appeared during WW1
WW easily. Despite Wonder Woman being a mary sue, they use that to their advantage. As WW own naivety and belief in good in humanity was contrasted with the evil of humanity. While in Captain Marvel, I never felt that connected to her character. Never did I felt worry because she felt too powerful and never had a moment where I was happy for her learning to control her power or anything. Not to say the movie was not entertaining, or that Brie Larson was awful, but Gal Gadot nail her role. With the WW movie having a vision and being director driven versus Captain Marvel which feel like a formulaic marvel popcorn movie.
Going to watch CM again to make up my mind.
WW was great the first time I saw it but with each viewing it just gets worse and worse, whereas Ragnarok for me is the opposite lol.
@agent41: I understand completely what you mean, Brie is definitely a better actor than Gadot but Gadot gave a better performance as WW compared to Brie's CM.
Going to watch CM again to make up my mind.
WW was great the first time I saw it but with each viewing it just gets worse and worse, whereas Ragnarok for me is the opposite lol.
This. IMO, Wonder Woman was over-rated. Well directed, Gal Gadot did fine but the setting and morality were atrocious.
@theamazingspidey: @godzilla44@Penguin-Dust I have to say that imo, cm proves once again that being an oscar winning actor doesn't mean you will be able to top anybody else in any given film. With brie larson, i got the feeling that she was just going through the motion the entire movie. In this movie, her presence felt underwhelming. Like she wasn't interested. Gal Gadot, a model turned actress showed a deeper connection with the character she was playing, and actually felt like she was embracing Wonder Woman.
In Larson's defense, even an Oscar winner needs good direction. I didn't feel that she was phoning it in like Jennifer Lawrence in X-Men Apocalypse, but I do believe she didn't know how to approach the character. Should she be more humorous, snarky, dry, or more serious and maybe even stoic? Should she use subtle or distinct facial expressions? How much should she gesticulate? Perhaps the script was largely at fault, but Vers was boring for the greater part of the movie and only toward the end showed signs of becoming somewhat interesting. If anything, the movie left her moving in a direction that I pray the Russo brothers fully expand on. It's sad when every other character in the movie is more entertaining than the "lead" character of a solo superhero movie. I feel I must add that I didn't hate Captain Marvel, it's just that after seeing the movie I feel largely indifferent about it.
@theamazingspidey: @godzilla44@Penguin-Dust I have to say that imo, cm proves once again that being an oscar winning actor doesn't mean you will be able to top anybody else in any given film. With brie larson, i got the feeling that she was just going through the motion the entire movie. In this movie, her presence felt underwhelming. Like she wasn't interested. Gal Gadot, a model turned actress showed a deeper connection with the character she was playing, and actually felt like she was embracing Wonder Woman.
In Larson's defense, even an Oscar winner needs good direction. I didn't feel that she was phoning it in like Jennifer Lawrence in X-Men Apocalypse, but I do believe she didn't know how to approach the character. Should she be more humorous, snarky, dry, or more serious and maybe even stoic? Should she use subtle or distinct facial expressions? How much should she gesticulate? Perhaps the script was largely at fault, but Vers was boring for the greater part of the movie and only toward the end showed signs of becoming somewhat interesting. If anything, the movie left her moving in a direction that I pray the Russo brothers fully expand on. It's sad when every other character in the movie is more entertaining than the "lead" character of a solo superhero movie. I feel I must add that I didn't hate Captain Marvel, it's just that after seeing the movie I feel largely indifferent about it.
Excellent response. Not sure how much I can expand on it, but I will add one more thing.
Some actors showcase an outstanding amount of range and are able to excel at a variety of roles, but being a great actress isn't always equivalent to being a great fit for every archetype. If you ask most people what Brie Larson's best performances are, it's likely they will tell you Ma in Room, and Grace in Short Term 12. It's no coincidence that in both films, she plays vulnerable and protective characters. Just because she is great at playing vulnerable and protective characters, doesn't mean she'll be great at playing a snarky, prideful character like Carol.
@agent41:The third act could have ben better. But imo the great parts in Wonder Woman remain great no matter how many times you watch it. As an origin story, it felt to have more depth and be more cohesive than cm. Also i don't see what's wrong with the morality of the film. But to each their own.
WW's humanism didn't seem to extend to WWI Germans, who were by no means nazis, but it did extend to Dr Poison - probably because she was one of 'em wimmin folk. They slurred Ludendorf's name, etc. Standard fare for whoever has been raised in a WASP environment I guess so they don't even notice them anymore.
You think the third act was weak - I think only the first one was strong. The magic disappeared as soon as men appeared. After that, there was nothing too hard for WW who benefitted from just the right amount of PIS to be up to the task, but never did we felt any tension of any kind in the movie.
But like you wrote, to each his own.
@agent41: Director Patty Jenkens herself said Diana will die from Bullets
What Source material did they use?
@agent41: Did you watch Captain SJW movie?
@agent41: What did you suspect?
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