Better Film: Joker or Spider-Man 2?

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Poll: Better Film: Joker or Spider-Man 2? (35 votes)

Joker 69%
Spider-Man 2 31%
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Joker, a complete mismatch IMO

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They are not in the same category and don't pretend to provide the same experience to the audience.

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@nn5 said:

Joker, a complete mismatch IMO

How it is a mismatch? it's a close match since Spider-Man 2 is still the gold standard for Spider-Man movies. While i think Joker is the superior film it works only as a Drama, Spider-Man 2 on the other hand, manages to balance action, drama, romance, AND humor to a near seamless whole and it's a good film.

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#4  Edited By OnlyOneEmpereor

@onlyoneempereor said:
@nn5 said:

Joker, a complete mismatch IMO

How it is a mismatch? it's a close match since Spider-Man 2 is still the gold standard for Spider-Man movies. While i think Joker is the superior film it works only as a Drama, Spider-Man 2 on the other hand, manages to balance action, drama, romance, AND humor to a near seamless whole and it's a good film, this is a close match.

@bullpr said:

They are not in the same category and don't pretend to provide the same experience to the audience.

Read what i wrote.

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@onlyoneempereor said:
@nn5 said:

Joker, a complete mismatch IMO

How it is a mismatch? it's a close match since Spider-Man 2 is still the gold standard for Spider-Man movies. While i think Joker is the superior film it works only as a Drama, Spider-Man 2 on the other hand, manages to balance action, drama, romance, AND humor to a near seamless whole and it's a good film, this is a close match.

@bullpr said:

They are not in the same category and don't pretend to provide the same experience to the audience.

Read what i wrote.

I understand your point, but for me they just don't have the same ambition.

SM2 is a big production for fun and entertainment.

Joker is a deep view inside a troubled mind.

Both are movies, I agree, but that's probably the only thing they have in common.

I enjoyed more SM2, but I can recognize that Joker is part of a toughest category.

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Joker is in a whole different league

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#7  Edited By OnlyOneEmpereor

@bullpr said:
@onlyoneempereor said:
@onlyoneempereor said:
@nn5 said:

Joker, a complete mismatch IMO

How it is a mismatch? it's a close match since Spider-Man 2 is still the gold standard for Spider-Man movies. While i think Joker is the superior film it works only as a Drama, Spider-Man 2 on the other hand, manages to balance action, drama, romance, AND humor to a near seamless whole and it's a good film, this is a close match.

@bullpr said:

They are not in the same category and don't pretend to provide the same experience to the audience.

Read what i wrote.

I understand your point, but for me they just don't have the same ambition.

SM2 is a big production for fun and entertainment.

Joker is a deep view inside a troubled mind.

Both are movies, I agree, but that's probably the only thing they have in common.

I enjoyed more SM2, but I can recognize that Joker is part of a toughest category.

I Respect and get your opinion but SM2 is actually a mix of Good Filmaking and Entertainment, the ambition and themes of Joker are superior by a wide margin,but some might be pulled off and prefer the Light Spider-Man 2, so this is nowhere close to a mismatch. Remember it's still the best out the three and a solid movie as a standalone.

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@onlyoneempereor: I really don't like that version of SM. I just think Tobey/Kirsten's acting is average at best, Aunt May annoys me and overall just can't stand that love-related drama. Sure, the movie has few good things (like J.J. Jameson) but I don't find it a good film.

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#10  Edited By OnlyOneEmpereor

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@onlyoneempereor: I really don't like that version of SM. I just think Tobey/Kirsten's acting is average at best, Aunt May annoys me and overall just can't stand that love-related drama. Sure, the movie has few good things (like J.J. Jameson) but I don't find it a good film.

You are right on the acting part of protagonists but Alfred Molina Doc-Ock stole the show with his complex charachter and great acting, plus good acting from JK Simmons and James Franco. Anyways i respect your opinion but i disagree, Spider-Man 2 is still a great Spider-Man movie and miles ahead MCU Spider-Man.

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People already forgot Spider-man 2...

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Joker stomps

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@onlyoneempereor: Agree Dock Ock was fine, he isn't one of my very favorite CBM villains but definitely bright point of the film. Still he & Simmons couldn't carry the movie for me. But respect your opinion too.

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@nn5 said:

Joker, a complete mismatch IMO

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Joker is a better drama but Spider-Man 2 is a better comic book movie.

Since this is a comic book forum I'm gonna vote for Spider-Man 2

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I haven't seen Joker yet, but it's probably best if we let the hype settle down before putting it against one of the best cbms.

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The mental gymnastics people use.

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Joker is my no. 1 CBM at the moment. Spider-Man 2 is in my top 10, but not as good as Joker.

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SM2..more action,excitement...better villian, broader appeal.

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Apples and oranges man, this site never understands this simple concept.

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SM2..more action,excitement...better villian, broader appeal.

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Joker is the new film to downplay on to make it seem DC movies aren’t at the actual top. At least TDK will start getting the actual treatment it deserves.

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SM2. Actually I enjoyed TDK more than joker. Joker is still a good movie though