Better character: Joker or Magneto?

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Poll Better character: Joker or Magneto? (50 votes)

Joker 28%
Magneto 72%

It is agreed upon that Joker is the better villain because Magneto has his own sense of honour and is noble in his own way that strays him from being a pure villain, but who is the better overall character?

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Joker.

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@ghostodoofus2: Are we just comparing comic book versions or are we doing composite?

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@catlike: Comic book versions, I always refer to the comic book characters unless noted.

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Joker but it’s close

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Magneto

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#7  Edited By Vishop_

Yeah some omniscient brat Vs the MAGNETO. Tough choice.

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Joker

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Magneto

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Magneto Joker is too often just a caricature of himself

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Magneto and its not close

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Magneto and its not close

Pretty much, magneto testament>>any joker origin ever

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Magneto honestly.

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@catlike: Comic book versions, I always refer to the comic book characters unless noted.

How do we judge that?

I've read the entire Stan Lee original X-Men run with Magneto, but I don't remember his characterization, and I never read the entire Bob Kane/Bill Finger Batman run with Joker so can I vote for Joker?

I thought Marv Wolfman wrote the most interesting Joker in the comics (that I read), and I thought Chris Claremont wrote the most interesting Magneto in comics, but I don't think I read either of their entire Batman and X-Men runs.

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Joker and it's not close.

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Magneto

The fact that a Holocaust victim trying to become Mutant Hitlar is one hell of a character arc

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Both amazing but Erik.

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Magneto

The fact that a Holocaust victim trying to become Mutant Hitlar is one hell of a character arc

He never tried to eradicate humans. A major misconception.

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I prefer Magneto

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Definetly Magneto, I don't like Joker anymore. I think Joker is becoming overused in comics. He's involved in almost any Batman story these days.

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Surprised Magneto is crushing Joker in the polls

I thought this was a DC site

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Magneto. He has clear motivations. The joker can be anything that the author wants. The joker goes from being a sadistic murderer to just a mischievous prankster depending on the story.

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The Joker when written well is still vague as hell. His origins change and are pretty weak tbh. Every writer writes Joker as a different type of insane, and at the end of the day, he's still just insane. Certain stories have really good Jokers, but even those vary in character between stories.

Magneto has a consistent backstory that makes sense and a set of identifiable values. He might switch sides and all, but he is still a better character imo.

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#25  Edited By Michaelbn

Comics - Magneto

Movies - Magneto

Cartoons - Joker

Video Games - Joker

eh, it's a tie.

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Magneto.

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Magneto

The fact that a Holocaust victim trying to become Mutant Hitlar is one hell of a character arc

I never thought about that. that is pretty hypocritical.

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Probably Magneto. he's actually gone through an interesting journey as a character whereas nothing really developed much with The Joker.

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@combo-man: This is true.

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@ghostodoofus2: Thanks! I appreciate it.

I have to go with Magneto. I read the arguments in this thread, and I was convinced that I was wrong.

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Joker

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Joker is a nihilistic corrupted anarchist with clear cut psychopathy that leads to a sociopathy while Magneto is pretty much a vengeful fascist and a social darwinist who becomes a sociopath. I think the main distinction between them is this, Joker is psychopath but Magneto is not while both are sociopath, I choose Magneto as he is more sophisticated villain in the style of an ideolog like Lenin or Hitler. Joker on the contrary has no belief, he is like a wild animal. Simple sadist. Joker can only be existed and defined with Batman while Magneto without mutants and his ideology is still a man called Eric or Max with some badass magnetic powers and charisma.

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Magneto. Joker is garbage

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Joker is an interesting concept, but he's very hard to do right and very easy to do wrong. In most storylines he's just a psychopath with bad jokes who is always smiling. The whole "societal commentary" thing has been done so much its an actual meme.

So I gotta say Magneto. I think his backstory and motivations are more compelling than "haha I killed your friend batsy" and shit like that. Plus his powers are cool. Joker gets away with a lot of weird bullshit he shouldn't.

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How has Joker not developed as a character?

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Magneto. I feel as time goes by, Magneto just gets better and better while as time flies, the Joker just gets repetitive, boring, and just not really worth saying he is that great.

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I like Magneto more, but Joker is certainly more influential and popular.