Best durability - CW Arrow or MCU Captain America?
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Bruh...Cap was catching hands from Thanos and Iron Man and getting up.
And Oliver was taking hits from Flash and Overgirl and getting up.
Bruh...Cap was catching hands from Thanos and Iron Man and getting up.
And Oliver was taking hits from Flash and Overgirl and getting up.
Flash tho? He's my dude but...Flash ain't got no punching power bruh. Not for like...the majority of his existence/fights.
Can you imagine Oliver being launched through concrete walls hard enough to fragment them ?
Because I can’t .
Umm
Bruh...Cap was catching hands from Thanos and Iron Man and getting up.
And Oliver was taking hits from Flash and Overgirl and getting up.
Flash tho? He's my dude but...Flash ain't got no punching power bruh. Not for like...the majority of his existence/fights.
Debatable, but thankfully, Kara does.
Can you imagine Oliver being launched through concrete walls hard enough to fragment them ?
Because I can’t .
Literally happens all the time lmao.
OT: Probably Cap, but it's close. I think Oliver's high ends are better.
@rbt: The first one was not nearly as impressive as Cap’’s as that wall had weaker foundations and Oliver wasn’t launched through it . Cap had a much better feat in AOU .
The second one is really good . But , was it ever specified that Oliver busted through it ?
Because it seems that Damien launches after he busted the floor .
@rbt: 1st doesn't look like(It is likely drywall) concrete.
I need context for the 2nd one, did he get hit point blank or did he hardly get hit.
@rbt: The first one was not nearly as impressive as Cap’’s as that wall had weaker foundations and Oliver wasn’t launched through it . Cap had a much better feat in AOU .
Which Cap feat are you talking about?
The second one is really good . But , was it ever specified that Oliver busted through it ?
Because it seems that Damien launches after he busted the floor .
We saw chunks of concrete come through as Oliver did. Because Darkh first busting the concrete and then launched Oliver through the hole makes no sense. It's fair to assume that Oliver was launched through it.
Also, Oliver has several feats like these. His durability is especially impressive.
@rbt: 1st doesn't look like(It is likely drywall) concrete.
As I said in my last post, Oliver has other incredibly impressive durability showings. I posted these off the top of my head.
I need context for the 2nd one, did he get hit point blank or did he hardly get hit.
Damian, a guy with TK, launched him through concrete. They were in a fortress of sorts underground. The scene cuts and Oliver comes sailing clean through the concrete pavement, with chunks of concrete following him.
@rbt: In AOU , Cap climbs on top of Iron Legion not and starts punching it bare handed , lol .
The bot then fires off it’s repulsors in the opposite direction and goes towards a concrete wall and cracks it massively . As Cap was on its back , he gets the brunt of the force and also , the weight and momentum of the Iron Legion not as it still kept trying to fly in the opposite direction . After Cap loosens his grip , the bot catches hold of him and throws him down .
@rbt: The first one was not nearly as impressive as Cap’’s as that wall had weaker foundations and Oliver wasn’t launched through it . Cap had a much better feat in AOU .
Which Cap feat are you talking about?
The One where Cap blocks a strike from Thanos and gets sent flying through a rock/wall:
@ready_4_madness: Cap took 7 consecutive punches punches from Bucky to the face which cracked concrete floor ( 5 tons of force ) and even cracked and fragmented a sizable of chunk of his cell’s reinforced walls .
He took a punch from Thanos and survived. .
@joker567892: And I posted a gif of Oliver being sent flying through concrete. The only difference is that Oliver didn't get KOed.
@rbt: He didn't he picked up Mjolnir a few moments later.
@rbt: Cap got up in less than 30 seconds .
A 30-second knockout is not a knockout?
@rbt: Well , in that much much time , he would also have had to walk up or run up , realize how Thor was in danger , and go and help him .
And Ollie was also taking a lot of time to get up from the hit .
Cap was never knocked out . He was hurt quite a lot but he was still moving his arms and getting back up .
@ready_4_madness: A lot of Flashes hits are terrible...
Even his IMP
@ready_4_madness: Well , Flash’s hits were not concentrated . And he wasn’t putting in all his effort .
Winter Soldier was repeatedly focusing all his punches on Cap’s face and was planning to kill him .
Cap. He was able to no sell diving into a water at terminal velocity from over thousands of feet, tanks blast from a repulser blast by Mark 46 Iron Man, withstood blast from Ultron Prime which can melt metal, and survived Thanos's missiles that destroyed the Avengers compound.
@wakeupsid: Super Soliders(Discounting Bucky's arm) all hit with Steel(Bulletproof) denting force.
Cap, Bucky, Panther, Killmonger, and Red Skull can all hit with similar force.
@ready_4_madness: the fact that Oliver has tanked that amount of flash hits it’s inconsistent considering that he gets hurt by regular humans and non enhanced martial artists on other seasons unless you think this guys hit as hard as the flash ( which is ridiculous) .. Also at that point flash didn’t have any striking feat iirc
@ready_4_madness: He only outright punched cap twice, once was when Thanos was apparently holding back, the next was when he was amped by Mjolnir.
The hit he received from Thanos was blocked, but he still got sent flying through a rock.
When Flash fights Ollie his punches don't do much, even though he has speed.
@ready_4_madness: so your counter to my argument is saying Cap feats are inconsistent too?. We are not discussing cap durab feats we are discussing Oliver ones.
@ready_4_madness: so your counter to my argument is saying Cap feats are inconsistent too?. We are not discussing cap durab feats we are discussing Oliver ones.
Well duh, how else will they rile up mcu fans?
@wakeupsid: I'd say Oliver was definitely in better shape than Cap was in. And the hit Oliver was struct with was also more powerful, IMO. He kept flipping through the air multiple times after he had been struck through the pavement. And he didn't take as long as Cap to recover.
That's just two feats though. Oliver was hit with an attack that shattered a bronze statue into thousands of pieces and tanked it. Had a massive chunk of concrete pavement fall on him and survived it(but was knocked out).
@wordmanjones said:
Bruh...Cap was catching hands from Thanos and Iron Man and getting up.
@ready_4_madness: lol the fact that you’re making jokes seems like an act of desperation. The thing is that i never brought up cap inconsistent feats just like you did with oliver. And now you’re comparing it instead of making an argument for your statement classic fanboy behavior.
Overgirl and stuff like that is obviously an outlier (arguably not Barry given he was taking the piss the entire fight, but stuff like the fight with Thawne confirms he's nothing to them if they give a fraction of a shit), it's not even vaguely fair to use that just because people use Cap taking hits from Iron Man and Ultron as a feat (both of them at the points they fought him barely hitting 60 tonner range vs millions or whatever Kara/Overgirl is at the moment).
Cap has one inconsistent durability feat if you think he wasn't amped by Mjolnir when Thanos KO'd him in End Game, that's literally it. They're never going to be comparable physically.
@ready_4_madness: I pointed out the inconsistency on arrow taking hits from flash because you tried to make an argument about Oliver durability using that feat. Also I never said thanos feat was a good way to prove Cap durability is better than Oliver.i don’t see the hypocrisy at all.
@mexcomics2078: So, if its not the hit from Thanos, then what makes Cap more durable?
This is especially funny since Spectre Ollie was killed by a smaller explosion than cap took in EG
Multiversal explosions don't need to be bigger than a city block, or even bigger than the size of a room. So this is irrelevant.
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