Batman Battle of the Month Official Discussion Thread

Hey Viners,

This is the go-to discussion thread for the monthly feature! Come here if you want to provide feedback, make suggestions, ask questions, etc.

Thanks!

Also, there will be a new "Does Batman Always Win? this Monday!

Apparently he beats everyone, even the Avengers just even when their movie was more popular. :V

Apparently he beats everyone, even the Avengers just even when their movie was more popular. :V

You should write the next feature on Batman vs Geoff Johns.

@k4tzm4n: Good, I need whatever small victories I can get.

Also I know who Bats if fighting now. Should be a fun read on Monday.

He can beat everyone but Squirrel Girl.

Anyways, I like the "Does Batman Always Win?" threads. mostly when Batman wins.

He can beat everyone but Squirrel Girl.

Anyways, I like the "Does Batman Always Win?" threads. mostly when Batman wins.

Also I know who Bats if fighting now. Should be a fun read on Monday.

Hee hee hee.

Yes, he always wins

@k4tzm4n: Possible Batman Always Wins: Superman, Flash, Snake Eyes, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (all four), Deadpool

Latest edition is now live 
http://www.comicvine.com/news/does-batman-always-win-batman-vs-black-panther/145945/

Batman vs Iron Fist please

i think thats what makes Batman the superhero without powers, is that he will win and he will always wins....simply put, he is BATMAN

@Nightflash said:

Batman vs Iron Fist please

No. No, no, no. I am tired of those fanboys, who are completely unobjective. There actually is a LOT of super heroes/villains, who could beat Batman.

No. No, no, no. I am tired of those fanboys, who are completely unobjective. There actually is a LOT of super heroes/villains, who could beat Batman.

We've all seen the memes or heard the jokes before... Batman  always wins. Why? Because he's Batman ! As funny as this tends to be, I thought I'd turn it into a monthly segment to test that statement out. Batman obviously doesn't always win, but I thought it would be fun to see who he could defeat in fair, one on one battles with fellow street level characters that aren't from his universe. 
 

I would like to see what to me is the most obvious one: Batman vs. Iron man.

Batman vs Moon Knight, let's see if Batman is really a better combatant than his Marvel "rip off".

@serpent222 said:

I would like to see what to me is the most obvious one: Batman vs. Iron man.

Eh, I'm pretty sure Iron Man stomps Batman in a random encounter.

@Decoy Elite said:

Batman vs Moon Knight, let's see if Batman is really a better combatant than his Marvel "rip off".

@serpent222 said:

I would like to see what to me is the most obvious one: Batman vs. Iron man.

Eh, I'm pretty sure Iron Man stomps Batman in a random encounter.

I really don't think it would be so clear cut. Gadgets that disrupt electronics are standard fare for Batman, and breaching the helmet and compromising vision is pretty easy to do. If Batman were blindsided, yeah, it's done. But Stark tends to be loud, and Batman is the stealthy one.

@k4tzm4n:How many of these have you done so far?

@k4tzm4n:How many of these have you done so far?

• Captain America  
• Wolverine 
• Black Panther

@serpent222: Eh, Iron Man is used to dealing with stuff meant to screw up his suits and really he can only be kept down by something like that for a few minutes at best(and that's if the person has personal info on how his armor works).

Start is loud because he doesn't need to be sneaky, although he does have his stealth suit if he needed to be sneaky after all.

@k4tzm4n said:

@mrdecepticonleader said:

@k4tzm4n:How many of these have you done so far?

Only 3!

• Captain America
• Wolverine
• Black Panther

Cool Id like to see one with Doom.

@Decoy Elite said:

Batman vs Moon Knight, let's see if Batman is really a better combatant than his Marvel "rip off".

@serpent222 said:

I would like to see what to me is the most obvious one: Batman vs. Iron man.

Eh, I'm pretty sure Iron Man stomps Batman in a random encounter.

I'm not going to get into a debate about this on here, but the fact that we clearly disagree just further demonstrates why it would be a good one to do.

@serpent222: I guess, but I think Bats would at least need to be given powerful equipment to make it fair.

@Decoy Elite said:

@serpent222: I guess, but I think Bats would at least need to be given powerful equipment to make it fair.

Well, the alternative is to compromise Iron Man's equipment to a lower level, which I think is perfectly feasible.

@serpent222 said:

@Decoy Elite said:

@serpent222: I guess, but I think Bats would at least need to be given powerful equipment to make it fair.

Well, the alternative is to compromise Iron Man's equipment to a lower level, which I think is perfectly feasible.

True, that could work.

@Decoy Elite said:

Batman vs Moon Knight, let's see if Batman is really a better combatant than his Marvel "rip off".

@serpent222 said:

I would like to see what to me is the most obvious one: Batman vs. Iron man.

Eh, I'm pretty sure Iron Man stomps Batman in a random encounter.

I'm not going to get into a debate about this on here, but the fact that we clearly disagree just further demonstrates why it would be a good one to do.

@k4tzm4n said:

@mrdecepticonleader said:

@k4tzm4n:How many of these have you done so far?

Only 3!

• Captain America
• Wolverine
• Black Panther

Cool Id like to see one with Doom.

@k4tzm4n: D'oh! Forgot about the street level part. Taskmaster would be an interesting match up. I've always heard of comparisons between Punisher and him too, so that could be a good one.

@k4tzm4n: Eh, I'll think of a better fitting character. Maybe.

I probably won't.

AHAHAHAHAH! Just got it!

Deadzone vs Batman, you know you want to.

@k4tzm4n:Okay

I agree Punisher would be an interesting one how about Daredevil?

Batman Vs Moon Knight!

Batman Vs Spidey!

Batman Vs Rex (From Invincible)!

Batman Vs Hawkeye!

Batman Vs Gambit!

I think either batman vs daredevil or batman vs gambit would be the best ones personally.

Daredevil, Gambit, and Hawkeye would all be cool fights.

Vs Spidey

Vs Bullseye

Vs Doc Ock

Batman and Damian Wayne vs. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Batman vs. Daredevil

Batman vs. Taskmaster

Batman vs. Predator

Batman vs. Bullseye

Bloodlusted Batman vs. Jason Todd, Damian Wayne, Dick Grayson, and Tim Drake

I see no one payed attention to "non-DC". How about something other than Marvel?

My favorite would be Batman Vs Ninjak. Maybe Batman has more skill, but Ninjak clearly goes farther in fights.

Do this, Katzman!

@Decoy Elite: Second that, Batman vs. Moon Knight! Finally would get an objective look at that fight.

Batman vs Daredevil would be very interesting.

Also Batman vs TMNT

@serpent222said:

I would like to see what to me is the most obvious one: Batman vs. Iron man.

I second this, as strongly as possible. While Iron man has better weapons and flight/strength, I think it would be very entertaining to see how Batman's strategy of elusiveness + many gadgets would hold up. I don't think it would be a stomp as many people say.

@k4tzm4n said:

Sorry dudes, but neither of those are street level characters. Additionally, I wouldn't consider myself an expert on either, so I wouldn't feel qualified doing those proper justice.

How is Captain America, leader of the Avengers a street level character, while Iron man is not?

Also, why does the suggestion for who he goes up against have to be non-DC?

If this is going to be an ongoing feature, would it be possible to define what Batman carries as standard equipment? I've already seen arguments about whether or not he would have this or that, and I think it would make the articles more interesting. If we know that every time Batman goes out he has magnets, EMP devices, a way to signal bats, smoke bombs, or whatever, then there isn't discussion about it. It's pretty important given the random encounter angle.

off the top of my head bullseye, gambit, cyclops, punisher. I think batman vs iron would be a stomp for ironman.

@k4tzm4n: would you take suggestions for these battles if they are batman vs an alternate version of a character? Such as a different era like grey hulk or alternate reality like ultimate marvel.

I'd like to see how Batman stacks up against Daredevil.

I see no one payed attention to "non-DC". How about something other than Marvel?

My favorite would be Batman Vs Ninjak. Maybe Batman has more skill, but Ninjak clearly goes farther in fights.

Do this, Katzman!

Batman vs Daredevil would be very interesting.

Also Batman vs TMNT

@serpent222said:

I would like to see what to me is the most obvious one: Batman vs. Iron man.

I second this, as strongly as possible. While Iron man has better weapons and flight/strength, I think it would be very entertaining to see how Batman's strategy of elusiveness + many gadgets would hold up. I don't think it would be a stomp as many people say.

@k4tzm4n said:

Sorry dudes, but neither of those are street level characters. Additionally, I wouldn't consider myself an expert on either, so I wouldn't feel qualified doing those proper justice.

How is Captain America, leader of the Avengers a street level character, while Iron man is not?

Also, why does the suggestion for who he goes up against have to be non-DC?

If this is going to be an ongoing feature, would it be possible to define what Batman carries as standard equipment? I've already seen arguments about whether or not he would have this or that, and I think it would make the articles more interesting. If we know that every time Batman goes out he has magnets, EMP devices, a way to signal bats, smoke bombs, or whatever, then there isn't discussion about it. It's pretty important given the random encounter angle.

off the top of my head bullseye, gambit, cyclops, punisher. I think batman vs iron would be a stomp for ironman.

@k4tzm4n: would you take suggestions for these battles if they are batman vs an alternate version of a character? Such as a different era like grey hulk or alternate reality like ultimate marvel.

I'd like to see how Batman stacks up against Daredevil.

AHAHAHAHAH! Just got it!

Deadzone vs Batman, you know you want to.

@k4tzm4n:Okay

I agree Punisher would be an interesting one how about Daredevil?

Batman Vs Moon Knight!

Batman Vs Spidey!

Batman Vs Rex (From Invincible)!

Batman Vs Hawkeye!

Batman Vs Gambit!

Daredevil, Gambit, and Hawkeye would all be cool fights.

Vs Spidey

Vs Bullseye

Vs Doc Ock

Batman and Damian Wayne vs. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Batman vs. Daredevil

Batman vs. Taskmaster

Batman vs. Predator

Batman vs. Bullseye

Bloodlusted Batman vs. Jason Todd, Damian Wayne, Dick Grayson, and Tim Drake

@k4tzm4n said:

How is Captain America, leader of the Avengers a street level character, while Iron man is not?

Also, why does the suggestion for who he goes up against have to be non-DC?

If this is going to be an ongoing feature, would it be possible to define what Batman carries as standard equipment? I've already seen arguments about whether or not he would have this or that, and I think it would make the articles more interesting. If we know that every time Batman goes out he has magnets, EMP devices, a way to signal bats, smoke bombs, or whatever, then there isn't discussion about it. It's pretty important given the random encounter angle.

Physical stats and powers place him in an entirely different weight class.

Everything he has in his belt and cowl is standard gear. It's just a matter of his morals determining if he'll use any at all. The signal to call upon bats isn't applicable because this takes place in an unpopulated city.

K4tzm4n, hold up. You actually didn't address any of my questions.

I didn't ask about weight classes, I asked how Captain America is a street level character as leader of the Avengers, while Iron man is not.

As for Iron man being in a different weight class, the last 2 matches have been against Wolverine, who is super human with a healing factor and adamantium skeleton, and Black Panther who is the King of The Dead, and is in a higher weight class than even Iron man.

Let me put it this way. If it is reasonable that Black Panther could take Iron man, then it should be reasonable for Batman to at least have a chance. Even if you think it is a stomp, you can write it that way as long as you justify it.

More importantly, if enough people request it, will you do it despite your opinion that its not anywhere near a fair match?

I also asked if you could maybe standardize Batman's equipment for these features, as I think that would make sense and why the opponents have to be non DC.

Also, the call to signal bats has nothing to do with whether or not a city is unpopulated. Indeed, if the city is unpopulated there are more likely to be bats.....

@MuyJingo: Black panther and wolverine cannot shrug nukes off casually like iron man can. There powerful but physically they are only a bit ahead of peak human. Iron man is class 100. Any class 100 is not street level. Iron man would stomp batman in a random....

@k4tzm4n said:

How is Captain America, leader of the Avengers a street level character, while Iron man is not?

Also, why does the suggestion for who he goes up against have to be non-DC?

If this is going to be an ongoing feature, would it be possible to define what Batman carries as standard equipment? I've already seen arguments about whether or not he would have this or that, and I think it would make the articles more interesting. If we know that every time Batman goes out he has magnets, EMP devices, a way to signal bats, smoke bombs, or whatever, then there isn't discussion about it. It's pretty important given the random encounter angle.

Physical stats and powers place him in an entirely different weight class.

Everything he has in his belt and cowl is standard gear. It's just a matter of his morals determining if he'll use any at all. The signal to call upon bats isn't applicable because this takes place in an unpopulated city.

K4tzm4n, hold up. You actually didn't address any of my questions.

I didn't ask about weight classes, I asked how Captain America is a street level character as leader of the Avengers, while Iron man is not.

As for Iron man being in a different weight class, the last 2 matches have been against Wolverine, who is super human with a healing factor and adamantium skeleton, and Black Panther who is the King of The Dead, and is in a higher weight class than even Iron man.

Let me put it this way. If it is reasonable that Black Panther could take Iron man, then it should be reasonable for Batman to at least have a chance. Even if you think it is a stomp, you can write it that way as long as you justify it.

More importantly, if enough people request it, will you do it despite your opinion that its not anywhere near a fair match?

I also asked if you could maybe standardize Batman's equipment for these features, as I think that would make sense and why the opponents have to be non DC.

Also, the call to signal bats has nothing to do with whether or not a city is unpopulated. Indeed, if the city is unpopulated there are more likely to be bats.....

• I consider the upper limit of street level to be roughly around Spider-Man's physicals. This isn't a term carved in stone, but it's what I use to qualify it. Captain America is well under those levels. Iron Man is well above them. As of right now, T'Challa has done nothing to prove he's near Spider-Man's physicals yet, either.
• Iron Man can fly at absurd speeds, is durable enough to withstand a nuke, and has the strength to slug it out with Hulk. He's not street level at all.
• Despite this, could it be an interesting match? Absolutely. Iron Man isn't a bloodlusted fellow so he won't obliterate Wayne, but it's a massssssssssssive uphill struggle for Stark, not to mention Tony is immune to EMP.  Wayne would need prep.  My segment doesn't include prep.
• Simply put, my two rules are they must be street level and they cannot be DC.  Iron Man doesn't fall under that category, nor do I consider myself a qualified expert on the character, so I don't believe I'd so him justice. There are so many more matches I want to do and I'm sorry to inform you Iron Man isn't one of them.
• See my latest reply in Batman vs Black Panther for what I roughly consider to be Batman's standard gear.
• I clearly meant unpopulated as in all forms of life when I used it there. They're the only living creatures in the city. Also, Batman has used it (IIRC) only once, and it was to elude authorities (Year One). I see no logical reason how using it in a one vs one would be justified here.