AVATAR : WATERBENDER RANKING PREMIER (READ OP!!!)

IT BEGINS!!!!!

Damn, never realized how many absolute top tier waterbenders there were. Probably voting for Kya but waiting for arguments otherwise.

I’m kicking out Aang. His water bending always seems as if he’s trying out a new move he rehearsed for hours. I think he just lacks instincts and strength with water (obviously he’s a literal master of others)

Edit: he also lacks finesse and control. Kya has him beat in all areas except maybe raw damage output. My argument is basically that Aang is never versatile with the element, only taking advantage of the near minimum it can do, he always moves too cautiously, conveying a lack of comfort, and he almost never even thinks to use it as a go-to, even when near water.

My main gripe is that he always looks so uncomfortable/pupilish/cautious when water bending

I would say Huu. The only real feat he has that is impressive, and by god is it impressive, is the wine feat, otherwise, he is below average.

A thought.. Would you maybe do a battle royale with the winners?

Tonraq never impressed me

Damn, waterbending has way less obvious choices than the other ones. Probably huu, kya, or tonraq. Will wait though for some arguments. Imo it’s probably huu as his plantbending is so environment based that idk if I would place him above anyone because of it

@co-boss: Korra > Katara > Amon (Just because bloodbending) > Unalaq > rest

@byondeon: yeah I figured the bloodbenders would be near the top, I’m honestly surprised yakone isn’t here. I feel like katara vs korra is debatable but we’ll see how the voting goes

Voted for Tonraq. He is a good fighter, but Aang's waterbending feats in Book 1 were actually pretty impressive and he hadn't even been trained yet, and Kya was able to hold her own against Zaheer alone for a while. Tonraq didn't do so well on his own, and he was in the North Pole.

Voting Aang. Not sure whether to vote Kya or Hama next; I suppose it depends on whether mastery or combat ability counts for more. The top two are obvious though (Amon >>> Tarrlok >>>>> everyone else).

Why not post-fusion Unalaq? It would give Katara and Korra some real competition at the top of the regular waterbenders heap.

Tonraq

Huu is actually pretty impressive. The top plantbender here. When he faced the Gaang, It took a lot just to disrupt his vine monster form.

Goodbye Aang.

Good bye Aang. I don't see Aang holding a candle to anyone here with water.

Aang (water only) has to go. I debated hard between him and Tonraq, who is definitely getting my next vote, but I feel like Aang barely utilized his airbending, and pretty much nothing he did outside the AS stands out to me. Tonraq may rely heavily on his physicals, but...well I don't have much of a but. I just think he's above Aang lol.

Yeah, Korra vs Katara is close, but Korra is above her, in fighting and mobility. Katara can bloodbend and is a better healer, tho Korra learned to heal as well. But Korra have power and mobility and more skill in fighting.

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since waterbending is location dependent, Do you think a specific location and certain conditions that favour all waterbenders and their various(all) abilities should be added ??!

No. If it's about who the better waterbender is, then their performance on all kinds of locations should be taken into account.

Agree. Some have high-scale feats with a big source, but others have some feats that account for their resourcefulness, like Hama.

I would say that Ming Hua would be better in locations where the water is limited, while I don't think that she would sair well against the top benders in places where there are lots of water, especially the poles.

I third this

@aystarr: no location, their skills should be dependant on how they do anywhere and we should take their tactics in low water areas as into account as much as their tactics in high water areas

@aystarr: I don't think a location is strictly necessary, but IMO the absolute best location for this would be the Foggy Swamp:

Effectively unlimited water

Plenty of vines and plants everywhere

Lots of stuff for Ming to swing on

I was thinking about that also but majority seem to not like the idea.

You have a point.

How on earth are people already voting for Katara?

@scarlet_wiccan said:

How on earth are people already voting for Katara?

Not reading the OP.

I don't think that would be good either because if they were to fight there, Ming Hua would honestly have the advantage due to her mobility..

YUP, Except Tarrlok and Yakone should be roughly around Amon.

+4

I know Katara will eventually get underrated and end up getting like 6th. Praying she doesn’t though

I’m voting out Huu, then Aang, then Tonraq, then Kya, then Hama

I dont think noone is going to vote out Katara. The one I think most will vote out is Unalaq tbh, even tho I would argue besides Katara, he is the only one that would put up a good fight against Korra..

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since waterbending is location dependent, Do you think a specific location and certain conditions that favour all waterbenders and their various(all) abilities should be added ??!

I guess there'll be no specific location then.

That'd be a huge lowball and I'm pretty sure she'll end up in top 3(must be 1 imo).

Genuinely curious about why you think Aang is superior to Huu.

@viking1205: Katara is at best number three with subbendings included. Amon and Tarrlok are indisputably numbers one and two, respectively. Since post-fusion Unalaq isn't here, Katara's only real competition for number three is Korra, and I'm 100% she'll sure win that vote.

Good point about bloodbending. I completely forgot about it honestly. Katara is arguably the best alongside Korra and Ming when it comes to just waterbending alone though.

How are they number 1 and 2? Their waterbending is nowhere near Katara's level.

All they have on Katara is advanced bloodbending. Katara can bloodbend too, and heal.

Agree. Amon, Tarrlok, Katara, Korra, Ming, and Unalaq should be top 6 imo (not necessarily in that order). Katara does seem to have the widest variety of skill in sole waterbending, which might put her higher than the non-broken bloodbenders.

@geekryan:

How are they number 1 and 2? Their waterbending is nowhere near Katara's level.

It doesn't have to be. Bloodbending >>>>> everything else.

All they have on Katara is advanced bloodbending. Katara can bloodbend too, and heal.

Katara can only bloodbend one night a month, whereas Amon and Tarrlok can bloodbend all the time.

Aang’s only saving grace is raw power despite his inexperience as a bender. Outside of that, there’s no reason to put him above anyone else. He goes first.

@mialthefencer: Just because bloodbending is hax doesn’t mean it’s better than everything else lol.

Katara stomps them in every other aspect of waterbending.

This isn't just about who would win in a fight either:

OK so in this poll, we are going to determine the best waterbender in the avatar franchise.

Characters physicals, hype, status, feats,subbending(s) and waterbending should be considered, characters should be judged based on their competence and not just bending alone. Based on how you rate each of them.

@geekryan: Just so you know, competence there Means Overall battle (combat and aptitude) competence.

Post fusion unalaq was fluctuating between going in and out of the avatar state. And no avatar state Power ups can be considered. Some do think it's his raw ability and some think it's the boost, so in order to avoid confusion, pre fusion was used since it's still his base form anyways.

I have to say you are wrong. Korra is number 1, with subbending Amon number 2 and Katara number 3 and Unalaq number 4 and Tarrlok number 5.

Aang is only really powerful in the AS too. He has some nice feats, but most here outclass him.

@aystarr:

Post fusion unalaq was fluctuating between going in and out of the avatar state.

No he wasn't. He was in the avatar state at the very beginning of his fight with Korra and at the very end, but in between (where all his feats are) he wasn't in the DAS at all.

And no avatar state Power ups can be considered. Some do think it's his raw ability and some think it's the boost, so in order to avoid confusion, pre fusion was used since it's still his base form anyways.

I think that fusion was a boost in the sense that post-fusion base Unalaq > pre-fusion base Unalaq (Korra effortlessly one shotted pre-fusion in the AS but couldn't do the same to post-fusion) but it's still Unalaq's power in the same sense that all of Aang or Korra's non-AS feats are their own power. It's not a temporary amp like the AS or the full moon, it's his new base, like flight was for Zaheer. IMO, post-fusion base Unalaq should be included, maybe separately from pre-fusion Unalaq.

@aystarr: That still doesn’t exclusively mean combat ability only though.