@ecoblitz said:
@xebec: seeing as they could never actually capture him but he had to give himself up and the fact that just Roger and garp fought xebec and albeit a slight pre prime Kaido, BM and WB and came out on top… yeah a 2v4 where you win you’re above the rest.
we have no idea what went down at God Valley, especially with how much kaido brought up betrayal in Wano.
I've been a supporter of the idea of WB turning on Rocks since the chapter came out, seeing how his views don't allign with them.
Also Kaido wasn't just slight pre-prime dawg, he was a cabin boy. Mans was still a teenager from what we've seen in his flashback.
and with the recent developments in 1061, and we know God Valley was erased off the map and from history, there was prolly some Imu/Ancient Weapon involved
Trust me, i do personally hold Roger in the top 3 of the verse all time (not including full headcanon characters like Joyboy or Imu), but i don't think the difference between him and primebeard and the yonko is that big.
hell, oda did once comment about the old gen being the generation of Roger, Whitebeard, Shiki and Big Mom (similar to the yonko system of today). And yeah, Garp or Sengoku never caught Roger, but Roger himself specifically mentioned how him and Garp almost killed each other multiple times, and Roger said "Bring Garp or Sengoku" back in the Oden flashback.
Luffy also told Koby "You should be an Admiral if you wanna face me when i'm Pirate King" back in Enies Lobby
And lastly, Kaido did have people like Shanks and Oden in his 'top 5', alongside the legends.
All in all it seems to me that the Pirate King / WSM - Yonko people are not that far apart, and i'd personally go a step further and say Admirals are in that ballpark too (now to be clear: i do NOT think admirals >= yonko. i still have most yonko over most admirals individually, but i think they're on the same tier, meaning any admiral can push any yonko to a high/extreme diff. same way i think any yonko can push PB, Garp, Roger, Xebec etc. to extreme diff or even win)
rant over
my opinion = fax
ur opinion = creditless
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