After Infinity War: Is the Dark Knight still the best CBM

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Poll After Infinity War: Is the Dark Knight still the best CBM (232 votes)

Yes, of course! 56%
No it's not. 34%
Can't decide. 4%
5%

Yes it's been done to death but the question will always remain.

I still think TDK.

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#151  Edited By Gokluma

Logan is basically marvel's version of Dark knight and way better story than infinity war in terms of a story except for random vague overhyped feats.

No offense to the mcu fanbase but the whole DCEU/DC movie vs MCU rivalry is just bit too much for my tastes

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Without a doubt. It's place isn't even challenged.

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The Dark Knight came out 10 years ago and it’s still a topic of discussion. Will we be as passionate about Infinity War in 2028? I have my doubts. Logan or Winter Soldier, hell even Man of Steel? Much more likely.

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So, ignoring the two borderline stupid comments above me we have some things to consider.....

Is TDK overrated?

If you have to ponder this question for more than a single second than we both know the answer. And TDK fans won't like it.

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So, ignoring the two borderline stupid comments above me we have some things to consider.....

Is TDK overrated?

If you have to ponder this question for more than a single second than we both know the answer. And TDK fans won't like it.

Elaborate

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#156  Edited By TheKinfing

@lubub55 said:

Without a doubt. It's place isn't even challenged.

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Yes, it is.

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TDK trilogy is the best.

TDKR is better than the other 2.

TWS/CW/IW are in the same league.

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Without a doubt. It's place isn't even challenged.

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Yes

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A small update for those backing up on IMDB's score, dropped from 9.2 to 8.8 .

8.8 is still a good score. Not that IMDB matters anyway...

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@bruceveidt: There is no reason to debate here really. Mcu fanboys will keep wanking. Infinity war is just another fun popcorn mcu movie, while the dark knight is an absolute masteripiece.

Dark knight>any cbm movie by long shot.

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@citizensurfer: check the ratings again. Not that i care about any critics or rating sites. But tdk>>>infinity war.

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Dark Knight is a great movie, while Infinity War is good, but really relies on you knowing what happened on previous movies to get context. Otherwise you don't know what's going on.

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Depends how you want to compare them. Infinity war was kind of just a block buster epic event. Nothing wrong with that but it is a better visual spectacle. Dark Knight deserves credit for the points it made though.

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It hasn't been since Avengers, TWS, CW etc...

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In the words of Peter Parker

IT NEVER WAS

in my opinion of course

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Yes, TDK is still the best. As I believe it's good but too incomplete, if you count both Infinity War part 1 and 2 then it becomes a way better film, but we are referring to it as it's own film, not as a Part 1 of 2.

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It is not even comparable, IW stomps. That´s exactly what we always wanted for a CBM movie, and the Russo brothers delivered.

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@ferber08 said:

It is not even comparable, IW stomps. That´s exactly what we always wanted for a CBM movie, and the Russo brothers delivered.

Not me

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#173  Edited By CitizenSurfer

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@citizensurfer: check the ratings again. Not that i care about any critics or rating sites. But tdk>>>infinity war.

But what does the General Population have to say?

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So let's get this straight.

The Dark Knight has 1,589,423 more votes.

The Dark Knight had been 'out' for 10 years prior to the release of Infinity War.

Yet it only has a 0.2 higher score and you want to call it the better film?

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#174  Edited By Archangel01

TDK Stomps,IW is just an another kinda childish,funny popcorn flick nothing more

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TDK Stomps,IW is just an another kinda childish,funny popcorn flick nothing more

Yeah because people turning to ash, and trillions of people dying is childish and hilarious...

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It is but i personally think they're entirely different movies. Touching upon different things in a different way. Nolan was more realistic and crime/detective driven. Infinity War was the best comic adaptation. It was such a fun movie to watch and hit the right points. MCU's finest yet.

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#177  Edited By Supermanforever

@citizensurfer said:
@supermanforever said:

@citizensurfer: check the ratings again. Not that i care about any critics or rating sites. But tdk>>>infinity war.

But what does the General Population have to say?

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So let's get this straight.

The Dark Knight has 1,589,423 more votes.

The Dark Knight had been 'out' for 10 years prior to the release of Infinity War.

Yet it only has a 0.2 higher score and you want to call it the better film?

You might not be familiar with imdb rating. But i will give you 100% guarantee that the infinity war score will drop further and further. This is something that i would be money on. Know why? because it happened literaly with every prior movie that didnt start with crap score.

By the end of the movie in theatres and by the time it gets 500k votes it will be lower than it is now. Im giving you 100 percent guarantee. Dont believe me? ill tag you in couple weeks.

But as i said before the votes on imdb and critics dont determine how good one movie is. Its all based on opinions, to me tdk is miles better. I agree tdk is a bit overrated. But still better than IW by long marigin.

IW is currently above some movies that its even laughable to compared with. That should tell you how inconsistent imdb votes is.

Also lets get to the facts.

You said 0,2 % better. Well not like it matters to me, but its peoples opinion, also by the time it reaches 500k votes it will be around 8,6-8,5 trust me on this, i track this votes pretty much daily for couple years now.

2. Lets take the heroes and the motives. Well one movie has another "we must save planet" moment well aside from Thor who wants to do that and avenge for the asgardians.

Then there is batman who fihgts crime daily, cleaning streets from mobs and helping people, making sure nobody gets same threatment as he got. Well their motives are similar, but to me Batman is just more motivational.

Lets take the villain, is there any doubt that Joker is better? way more interesting, unique, strange and sort of mysterious. Meanwhile Thanos despite all the wank from people claiming best villain ever. Whats his motives, well another casual boring "im saviour of the universe".

Quality of the movies to me tdk still wins, mostly on practical, while avengers is pretty much all cgi. Not that i think cgi sucks, but i think practical just looks better because its real.

TDK won two oscars. Im not saying IW cant, but i dont see what it would win. Maybe for visual effects? though personally i think BP was visually better.

Compare the soundtracks, while i love sylvestri and what he did with IW, its nowhere near the masterpiece Zimmer created.

List goes on.

Finally my opinion. I never said that i like TDK more than IW. I like IW definantly more as cbm movie, because i outright love the superhero popcorn where you just sit back enjoy the bad ass superhero fights and power showcase, this is one reason i like lets say man of steel, thor ragnarok and some other superhero movies than tdk, i even like tdkr more than tdk. But i very well realise that as movie TDK is better than all of those movies in nearly every way.

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@archangel01 said:

TDK Stomps,IW is just an another kinda childish,funny popcorn flick nothing more

Yeah because people turning to ash, and trillions of people dying is childish and hilarious...

People you know are coming back because Disney will keep making sequels.

And the half the universe Thanos snapped are just irrelevant, we don't even know who they are or what they are. There's no emotional impact there, whatsoever.

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#179  Edited By CitizenSurfer

@citizensurfer said:
@archangel01 said:

TDK Stomps,IW is just an another kinda childish,funny popcorn flick nothing more

Yeah because people turning to ash, and trillions of people dying is childish and hilarious...

People you know are coming back because Disney will keep making sequels.

And the half the universe Thanos snapped are just irrelevant, we don't even know who they are or what they are. There's no emotional impact there, whatsoever.

It doesn't matter whether they are coming back, if you think people turning to ash and trillions of people dying is "childish and hilarious" then you need psychiatric help.

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nope.

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@bruceveidt said:
@citizensurfer said:
@archangel01 said:

TDK Stomps,IW is just an another kinda childish,funny popcorn flick nothing more

Yeah because people turning to ash, and trillions of people dying is childish and hilarious...

People you know are coming back because Disney will keep making sequels.

And the half the universe Thanos snapped are just irrelevant, we don't even know who they are or what they are. There's no emotional impact there, whatsoever.

It doesn't matter whether they are coming back, if you think people turning to ash and trillions of people dying is "childish and hilarious" then you need psychiatric help.

And what does it say of everyone watching IW that trillions of people could die and it had all the impact and fanfare of watching paint dry?

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@citizensurfer said:
@bruceveidt said:
@citizensurfer said:
@archangel01 said:

TDK Stomps,IW is just an another kinda childish,funny popcorn flick nothing more

Yeah because people turning to ash, and trillions of people dying is childish and hilarious...

People you know are coming back because Disney will keep making sequels.

And the half the universe Thanos snapped are just irrelevant, we don't even know who they are or what they are. There's no emotional impact there, whatsoever.

It doesn't matter whether they are coming back, if you think people turning to ash and trillions of people dying is "childish and hilarious" then you need psychiatric help.

And what does it say of everyone watching IW that trillions of people could die and it had all the impact and fanfare of watching paint dry?

What?

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@bruceveidt said:
@citizensurfer said:
@archangel01 said:

TDK Stomps,IW is just an another kinda childish,funny popcorn flick nothing more

Yeah because people turning to ash, and trillions of people dying is childish and hilarious...

People you know are coming back because Disney will keep making sequels.

And the half the universe Thanos snapped are just irrelevant, we don't even know who they are or what they are. There's no emotional impact there, whatsoever.

It doesn't matter whether they are coming back, if you think people turning to ash and trillions of people dying is "childish and hilarious" then you need psychiatric help.

Uh that can still be childish and hilarious. It all matters on acting, writing, and execution.

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#184  Edited By Outside_85

@outside_85 said:
@citizensurfer said:
@bruceveidt said:
@citizensurfer said:
@archangel01 said:

TDK Stomps,IW is just an another kinda childish,funny popcorn flick nothing more

Yeah because people turning to ash, and trillions of people dying is childish and hilarious...

People you know are coming back because Disney will keep making sequels.

And the half the universe Thanos snapped are just irrelevant, we don't even know who they are or what they are. There's no emotional impact there, whatsoever.

It doesn't matter whether they are coming back, if you think people turning to ash and trillions of people dying is "childish and hilarious" then you need psychiatric help.

And what does it say of everyone watching IW that trillions of people could die and it had all the impact and fanfare of watching paint dry?

What?

If humorous reaction is somehow a mental issue with watching billions of people die on a screen... then so is apathy.

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I have an optional disconnect when watching Nolan films they make me feel nothing.

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A decades worth of hype is the only thing keeping people from seeing that IW is a very flawed movie. It cannot be compared to any of the CBM greats (Superman, TDK, Spiderman 2).

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@farkam said:

A decades worth of hype is the only thing keeping people from seeing that IW is a very flawed movie. It cannot be compared to any of the CBM greats (Superman, TDK, Spiderman 2).

Been saying this for a while.

Some people legit think TDK is not a CBM and IW is. As if all comic books were this big scale events with moon-busting feats and big purple aliens.

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@citizensurfer said:
@outside_85 said:
@citizensurfer said:
@bruceveidt said:
@citizensurfer said:
@archangel01 said:

TDK Stomps,IW is just an another kinda childish,funny popcorn flick nothing more

Yeah because people turning to ash, and trillions of people dying is childish and hilarious...

People you know are coming back because Disney will keep making sequels.

And the half the universe Thanos snapped are just irrelevant, we don't even know who they are or what they are. There's no emotional impact there, whatsoever.

It doesn't matter whether they are coming back, if you think people turning to ash and trillions of people dying is "childish and hilarious" then you need psychiatric help.

And what does it say of everyone watching IW that trillions of people could die and it had all the impact and fanfare of watching paint dry?

What?

If humorous reaction is somehow a mental issue with watching billions of people die on a screen... then so is apathy.

I didn't say it wasn't.