I think we all know by now that the 2019 movie Joker is a divisive between critics and audiences. Personally I absolutely loved the film (although I can't say I enjoyed it, given its bleakness). I have no intention to argue with ones that dislike this film since art is subjective and we are all entitled to opinions of our own, so this thread is not designed to escalate that fight/controvasy on why Joker film is fantastic or terrible.
However, one issue I DO take with some of the critics/viewers is that some of them felt the movie was empty or poor on themes/messages and doesn't actually have anything to say at all, which I have to disagree strongly. Say what one will about its actual delivery, I can understand why some might have perceived the themes and messages in the film as shallow or pretentious or superficial or dangerous or badly written/directed, but I feel one thing this movie offered in abundance are food for thoughts (whether one feel it is junky fast-food or nutritious four-course dining is depend on personal taste lol).
I have seen the movie only ONCE (three days ago), and already I could plunk out from my memory many significant and minor themes/messages peppered throughout the film:
* Obviously, , , , and the are major driven force through out the movie, which I think we all have picked up on. But beyond these, the director/writer's tendrils has also touched upon the issues of --
* impact of and on people that relied on it;
* insufficency of ;
* , lack of compassion and empathy;
* actual , and ;
* and ;
* by popular media through snapshot protrayals (Arthur's standup been used as chat show laughing stock);
* , and (if Arthur's mother were to be believed);
* the ;
* the ;
* the ;
* even s (city littered by garbages and plagued by rats).
And those were just the ones I picked upon after one viewing. It is fair enough if a critics or viewer feel those themes were depicted poorly or doesn't work within the context of the film, but it would be unfair to say there are nothing there worthwhile, when there were arguably TOO MANY crammed in.
Anyway, what do you guys/ladies think? And what other themes/messages have you noticed or picked up from your viewing experiences? :-)