The Demiurgical Prince: A Wiccan Respect Thread

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Billy Kaplan, an electrokinetic mutant with magical and reality warping abilities, joined the Young Avengers as part of Vision's fail safe program to ensure the existence of the Avengers team. Wiccan and his teammate/brother Speed are believed to be the reincarnations of the Scarlet Witch's dead twin sons. He is considered a powerful mage, and was revealed to be the Demiurge, a being of great power, destined to one day "rewrite the laws of magic".

Electrokinesis

Wiccan one-shots two security guards (Young Avengers 2005 #1)
Wiccan one-shots two security guards (Young Avengers 2005 #1)

Wiccan shuts down a Car's electronics (Young Avengers 2005 #2)
Wiccan shuts down a Car's electronics (Young Avengers 2005 #2)

Wiccan electrocutes and almost kills a bully (Young Avengers special 2006 #1)

Wiccan one-shots a car with a bolt of lightning (New Avengers 2005 #51)
Wiccan one-shots a car with a bolt of lightning (New Avengers 2005 #51)

Wiccan one-shots the wrecking crew (Siege: Young Avengers)
Wiccan one-shots the wrecking crew (Siege: Young Avengers)

Wiccan fries Iron-Mariner's hydrocondensor units (New Avengers 2015 #6)

Energy Projection

Wiccan one-shots a robot (Young Avengers 2005 #10)
Wiccan one-shots a robot (Young Avengers 2005 #10)

Wiccan one-shots a Skrull soldier (Secret Invasion/Young Avengers #2)
Wiccan one-shots a Skrull soldier (Secret Invasion/Young Avengers #2)

Wiccan matches blast power with the enchantress (Sylvie Lushton) (Dark Reign: Young Avengers #2)
Wiccan matches blast power with the enchantress (Sylvie Lushton) (Dark Reign: Young Avengers #2)

Wiccan one-shots a blast of criminals with an AOE blast (Avengers: The Children's Crusade #1)

Using Wiccan's powers , Loki destorys several Mother creatures (Young Avengers 2013 #5)

Wiccan one-shots multiple mindless ones (The Last Annihilation Wiccan and Hulkling)
Wiccan one-shots multiple mindless ones (The Last Annihilation Wiccan and Hulkling)

Wiccan destroys multiple mindless ships (The Last Annihilation Wiccan and Hulkling)

Force Fields

Wiccan shields from Chase Stein (Civil War: Young Avengers & Runaways #1)
Wiccan shields from Chase Stein (Civil War: Young Avengers & Runaways #1)

Wiccan shields from Karolina Dean (Civil War: Young Avengers & Runaways #2)
Wiccan shields from Karolina Dean (Civil War: Young Avengers & Runaways #2)

Wiccan shields from the wrecker (Siege: Young Avengers)
Wiccan shields from the wrecker (Siege: Young Avengers)

Wiccan Shields from Iron-Man (Avengers: The Children's Crusade #2)
Wiccan Shields from Iron-Man (Avengers: The Children's Crusade #2)

Wiccan Shields from Doctor Doom (Avengers: The Children's Crusade #4)
Wiccan Shields from Doctor Doom (Avengers: The Children's Crusade #4)

Wiccan shields from multiple Mindless ones and returns their attacks back to them (Gaurdians of teh Galaxy 2020 #16)

Teleportation

Wiccan teleports the Young Avengers to Cassie Lang's location (Young Avengers 2005 #2)

Wiccan teleports Patriot to Avengers tower (Young Avengers 2005 #8)

Wiccan finds the location of Bucky Barnes and opens a portal to the location (Young Avengers presents #1)

Wiccan teleports to Genosha , Wundagore mountain and New Jersey (Young Avengers presents #3)

Wiccan teleports the Young Avengers and Magneto to Wundagore moountain (Avengers: The Childrens Crusade #2)

Wiccan teleports to Latveria (Avengers: The Childrens Crusade #2)

Wiccan teleports the Young Avengers and a spacecar mid flight (Young Avengers 2013 #7)
Wiccan teleports the Young Avengers and a spacecar mid flight (Young Avengers 2013 #7)

Wiccan teleports himeself , Captain Marvel and Human Torch to Hulkling (Empyre #5)
Wiccan teleports himeself , Captain Marvel and Human Torch to Hulkling (Empyre #5)

Complex Magic

Wiccan disables Kang's forcefield (Young Avengers 2005 #5)

Wiccan locates Patriot (Young Avengers 2005 #7)
Wiccan locates Patriot (Young Avengers 2005 #7)

Wiccan turns Kate Bishop into smoke and then reforms her (Young Avengers 2005 #8)
Wiccan turns Kate Bishop into smoke and then reforms her (Young Avengers 2005 #8)

Wiccan creates a levitating energy disc for himeself and the Young Avengers (Young Avengers 2005 #10)
Wiccan creates a levitating energy disc for himeself and the Young Avengers (Young Avengers 2005 #10)

Wiccan changes his appearance (Young Avengers 2005 #10)
Wiccan changes his appearance (Young Avengers 2005 #10)

Wiccan uses Hydrokinesis to attack a Skrull soldier (Secret Invasion Runaways/Young Avengers #2)
Wiccan uses Hydrokinesis to attack a Skrull soldier (Secret Invasion Runaways/Young Avengers #2)

Wiccan uses a binding spell and restrains Sentry (Dark Reign: Young Avengers #5)
Wiccan uses a binding spell and restrains Sentry (Dark Reign: Young Avengers #5)

Wiccan deactivates Avengers Mansion defences (I am an Avenger #1)

Wiccan grants Captain America flight (Avengers: The Children's Crusade #1)

Wiccan slips through Magneto's shield (Avengers: The Children's Crusade #2)
Wiccan slips through Magneto's shield (Avengers: The Children's Crusade #2)

Wiccan changes the clothing of the Young Avengers and Magneto (Avengers: The Childrens Crusade #2)
Wiccan changes the clothing of the Young Avengers and Magneto (Avengers: The Childrens Crusade #2)

Wiccan looks at all possible worlds (Young Avengers 2013 #1)
Wiccan looks at all possible worlds (Young Avengers 2013 #1)

Wiccan turns Kid Loki into Teen Loki (Young Avengers 2013 #11)

Wiccan turns Two bikes into smoke (New Avengers 2015 #5)
Wiccan turns Two bikes into smoke (New Avengers 2015 #5)

Wiccan hides Daimon Hellstorms body (Strikeforce #2)

Wiccan encases himeself and Hulkling in Magical light capable of repelling Symbiotes (King in Blak One-Shot: Wiccan and Hulkling)
Wiccan encases himeself and Hulkling in Magical light capable of repelling Symbiotes (King in Blak One-Shot: Wiccan and Hulkling)
Wiccan purges a poisonous muatgen from Hulking's body (Guardians of the Galaxy 2020 #13)

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Demiurge

In the far future Wiccan is destined to become the Demiurge. The Demiurge is a being stated to be capable of rewriting the laws of magic and all of reality as he see's fit.

While only in a partially powered Demiurge State , Wiccan stalemates the entity known as Mother (Young Avengers 2013 #12)

After going full Demiurge , Wiccan erases the powerful entity ,
After going full Demiurge , Wiccan erases the powerful entity , "Mother" from existence

Demiurge is capable of
Demiurge is capable of "giving birth" to the past and future as well as freely moving through reality and looking at it beneath his`feet (Young Avengers 2013 #13)

Moridun Future Demiurge

In the Future Moridun takes contor of Wiccan's body and is able to utilize his powers to the fullest

Demiurge no sells attacks from multiple Avengers ((New Avengers 2015 #5)
Demiurge no sells attacks from multiple Avengers ((New Avengers 2015 #5)

Demiurge atomizes Vision and Namorina (New Avengers 2015 #5)
Demiurge atomizes Vision and Namorina (New Avengers 2015 #5)

Demiurge begins to break the world apart (New Avengers 2015 #5)
Demiurge begins to break the world apart (New Avengers 2015 #5)

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#1  Edited By Andromeda1001

@godlyshinigami: You forgot that Doom called him a universal shaper during the Last Annihilation.

OT: Nice thread!

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@godlyshinigami: Nice one!

But is that really it? Nothing for telepathy, telekinesis, etc.?

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@andromeda1001: While I'm personally more of a feats>statements type of person , I'll be sure to check it out

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Nice job! Good to see an updated RT for him, I know he's made some major appearances since then.

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Great RT! Billy's really versatile for tournaments

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Nice work. Probably my favourite Young Avenger.

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@geekryan said:
@godlyshinigami said:

@geekryan: Lol he isn't psychic.

I know, but he has telekinetic and telepathic feats, no?

Unfortunately no

Actually, he does have telepathic feats! Not sure about telekinetic abilities though. I feel like lots of comic book readers are unaware of the MANY feats Wiccan has. He's so underrated.

But anyways, he once put a group of "bad men" (likely 20+) in comas with a single thought. He can also create telepathic bridges to communicate with his friends and family.

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#11  Edited By GodlyShinigami

@comicsxplaned: That wasn't Telepathic that was energy projection. Captain Marvel compares the explosion Created by Wiccan to a nuke and the avengers compare it to when they fought scarlet witch in disassembled , so it isn't Telepathic.

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@comicsxplaned: That wasn't Telepathic that was energy projection. Captain Marvel compares the explosion Created by Wiccan to a nuke and the avengers compare it to when they fought scarlet witch in disassembled , so it isn't Telepathic.

Hmm.. During Children's Crusade 01 (2010), one of the "bad men" detonated a nuclear bomb that he attached to himself. However, Wiccan was able to dissipate the explosion. After dissipating the explosion, Wiccan unknowingly put the men in comas. Or at least, that's how I interpret it. I honestly haven't read it in a long time.

But you're also ignoring the fact that "he can also create a telepathic bridge to communicate with his friends and family." This ability was shown in New Avengers v4 002 (2015).

And after doing a little research, Wiccan actually does have telekinesis, and all of Scarlet Witch's abilities.

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#13  Edited By GodlyShinigami

@comicsxplaned:

1) He doesn't dissipate the explosion, the explosion doesn't go off , as Wiccan takes out the criminals before they activate it. If it was TP they wouldn't have been a visible bright light , that light was Wiccans energy projection that took them out , so no he didn't or hasn't used TP

2) That isn't TP , it's a communication spell that would simply be a "complex magic" ability

3) No he doesn't have TK. He's never shown all of Scarlet witch's abilities, does he have the potential sure... But in terms of what he's actually displayed he doesn't have all of her abilities.

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@godlyshinigami: Didn't he show telekinesis in Trial of Magneto issue #4? He was holding and opening a bottle...

Also, Great Job!

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@josh983: Thanks and holding a bottle isn't really a noteworthy combat feat , so I didn't really feel the need to include it.

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#16  Edited By DemiurgeKaplan

Why is it labeled complex magic? When his spells are relatively easing to use for him especially after he got over the repetition.

Then again writers seemed to forget that part.

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#17  Edited By BigBaby

Last Annihilation also had an interaction with Billy and Dormmamu, with the intent that Billy was superior.

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@demiurgekaplan:

Why is it labeled complex magic?

Complex,Skilled etc does it really make a difference? Basically a varied amount of abilities by way of his magic

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@bigbaby said:

Last Annihilation also had an interaction with Billy and Dormmau, where the intent was that Billy was superior.

Yeah I'm probably going to update this RT some time soon

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@pike44: First scan is clearly just his electrokinesis and the second isn't noteworthy enough to be in this thread

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#23  Edited By Andromeda1001

@godlyshinigami: Anthony Oliveira confirmed to me that Demiurge transcends several universes/realities/planes, from The Last Annihilation: Wiccan and Hulkling. I explained and posted that here: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/arishem-the-judge-vs-the-dread-dormammu-2326901/#js-message-26817974

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#24  Edited By BigBaby

@godlyshinigami: In the Hulking and Wiccan Infinity comic, Billy created another reality described to be an alternate earth. In this reality, they were paired up with different partners before he restored reality to its original state.

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@andromeda1001: @bigbaby: Thanks for the info, if you both have any noteworthy feats or statements regarding Wiccan feel free to drop them in the thread. I'll add them to the RT when I update it

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Good thread but he's not his mom lol.

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@mage101 said:

Good thread but he's not his mom lol.

Not yet lol

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#28  Edited By BigBaby
@godlyshinigami said:

@andromeda1001: @bigbaby: Thanks for the info, if you both have any noteworthy feats or statements regarding Wiccan feel free to drop them in the thread. I'll add them to the RT when I update it

He recently shrunk Genis Vell through dimensional folding, similar to what he did in New Avengers, and blocked an attack from him, later teleporting him mid-battle. Captain Marvel #6-7.

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He also started exploding with energy in Captain Marvel Assault on Eden which Carol struggled to move through.

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