Most powerful potential fighter in dragon ball

Potential isn't something that can be definitive and is often very biased when spoken about but lets speculate.. Who has the most potential of these fighters if they trained all their whole lives got mystic right before their peak ended and were bloodlusted morals off. Frieza, Broly, Cell, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Hit, or Cabba. Also is there anyone stronger than them I didnt list? Go!

I think Goku Black would near the top of the list.

@kingpin1: I've always thought of Black as goku's body with a better host meaning they use goku's potential to a greater extent.

Frieza easily. Then Gohan

Cell. Dude has the potential of frieza as well as the saiyans and even the stronger humans.

Frieza, Cell and Gohan

Frieza, cell, Gohan, broly, black, hit, yamcha, goten, trunks and some other trash.

Frieza is so far above everyone else its not even funny. Second place is more debatable,

Hit Black

It is Frieza or one of the Saiyans.

If Black and Hit permenantly fused then that'd be some crazy potential.

1. Characters that can adapt to opponent power like Hit or Black cause as long as there is opponent stronger than them they can grow stronger

2. Angels cause they stronk af

3. Frieza, if he had acces to god ki he would be stronger than Gods imo

4. Characters that become Gods of Destruction like Beerus or Champa

5. Half-Saiyans cause their potential is much higher than full-bloods

6. Saiyans cause they have transformations that multiplie their power

7. Shinjins cause they are born with high power

pretty much this

Well lets see what Jiren can do.

He doesn't have their combined fighting potential; only their Ki techniques, nothing more.

Before i even start i'm going to say this first. There is no such thing as "potential" in Dragon Ball the proper term we are looking for is Talent.

Potential: A possibly of something happening due to circumstances

Talent: A person being able to do a certain activity really good because of genes.

In dragon ball we multiple characters fit the word Talent way better than Potential.

For example:

On planet Vegeta they put sayings in a certain class depending on their birth power level. It's pretty obvious that low class saiyans had low class offspring that will grow up to be only a little better than their parents while Elite class saiayns spawn offspring with talent far better than any other low class saiyan. It's the reason why Vegeta has more talent than Goku but the only reason why Goku is stronger than Vegeta is because of plot and because he is the main character.

1st Frieza - Caught up to Goku in 4 months of training

2nd Broly - Dude was born with a power level of 10,000 if he had proper training he would of been way stronger than what the z fighters had to face.

3rd Goten - His father was Perfect Cell level when he was made and will have more talent than any other z fighter besides Bra (Vegetas daughter)

4th Trunks - He is the son of a super saiyan and has that downloaded straight into his genes.

5th Goku Black - Was able to go from Ssj2 Goku level to stronger than SsB in like a week of training (Only because plot demanded it. Personally i think they executed the saga wrong)

Honorable Mentions -

Cell - I was going to add him to the list but i just don't think Cell should count.

Pan and Bra - They are babies so i didn't even bother to add them.

Trunks

Goku. The answer is always Goku.

@exodus101: What? He has their cells and their DNA, he is biologically a Saiyan, Frieza race and Namekian. His natural potential should be insane.

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In episode 85 of Super we will see how much fat buu can gain from training for a small amount of time.

imagine friexa after a few stays in the hyperbolic time chamber. or if he trained for a decade like vegeta does. he'd nuke beerus. his character makes no sense. sitting on that kind of dormant power and not going at it? especially as i assume his lifespan is probably significant. it kind of made sense before they revealed that frieza was aware of higher beings (beerus) during his reign

The answer is always Gohan. If Gohan actually would train, the dude became more powerful at his base level than ssj3 goku just by having an old dude meditate around him. If Gohan took fighting half as seriously as his father nobody in the universe could match him.

Uub was born with a far higher battle power than even Gohan, so was Freeza, who actually got considerably more powerful in a shorter duration than Gohan ever has. There are plenty of fighters who far exceed Gohan in terms of potential.

Yeah, in 4 months of training with complete utter fodder got more gains than Goku training for 17 years with the strongest fighters from the universe, and the last years having quite possibly the greatest teacher in the universe.

@rukelnikovftw: @odinslayer: to start let's all understand that your birth power has nothing to do with your potential. Your potential is your maximum strength. Birth power only matters if it is your opinion that all people can increase by the same amount. That is and has been proven untrue countless times as people reach their peaks. Freeza never training and then training for a brief time shows that he had a lot of noob gains, people tend to improve quickly when first training. However freezes power has always been limited to transformations. Unless we are saying that freeza has unlimited transformations, his potential is rather limited.

I wounld argue that potential is the range from your birth power to your highest possible power level. If you are born with a power level of 5 and end up at 4 billion your potential was higher than someone born at 500k and ended up at 4 billion. Gohan has the highest potential out of all the half saijins as he has proved that even with a fraction of the training he can surpass his father who easily surpassed all the people you have argued for.

@killraven4334: Except his power up was not only his new transformation his WEAKEST form casually stomped Gohan

@rukelnikovftw: a Gohan that was nowhere near his potential, where as it can be argued that freeze had reached his maximum strength

Potential is your highest possible strength, people with the highest potential must have large room for improvement, the Supreme kai said Gohan had the highest potential, and Gohan was clearly the most powerful being at the end of Z barring super buu with absorption. I'm not going to turn this into a mystic Gohan vs ssj3 goku debate, but most people concede that Gohan is superior. He just needs to train. If mystic Gohan full potential unlocked ever transformed he would dwarf any competition.

Heck future turns turned blue out of just anger, and we all know Gohan has a higher anger power up than trunks

Macimum strenght in 4 months? Why? Also its true that Gohan's power is Iffy, but it was at least still stronger than Piccolo

@rukelnikovftw: my point is simply that beings from freezas race don't train. So it's impossible to speculate if they have unlimited growth potential like saijins

For the sake or argument let's stick to 4 billion. Divided by

Freeze base 530k is an increase of 754716 percent

Let's say Gohan base was 120 (can't remember the scouter) regardless it's close. That's an increase of 3,333,333,333%

Who has the higher potential? The one who increases his strength by a billion percent or the guy who does it by less than a million percent?

Yeah, and my point is that their gains are absurdly above those of even exceptional saiyans or half saiyans

Base Gohan 120??? WTF are you talking about? If you mean birth BP, then we have no clue as to what Frieza's birth BP was

EDIT: Also now that i check your percentages, for some reason you are assuming Gohan and Frieza have the same BP, which is clearly not true.

@rukelnikovftw: what on earth are you talking about. We are talking about an increase to 4 billion power level from friezas first known power level of 530,000. Compared to Gohan first known power level against raditz, as it is implied that friezas first form powerlevel remained constant. The math is sound. (4000000000/530000)x100 vs (4000000000/120)x100

If we do not include plot induced stupidity or pis. Gohan, cell, and goku black should have the highest potentials. Frieza trained for 4 months with complete fodder and became as strong as ssj blue. That is simply impossible complete bs. Gohan as a teen became more powerful than Cell, stopped training for years, and then became more powerful than a ssj3 in base form by unleashing his potential at that moment of not training much for a while. Cell has the dna of piccolo, goku, and fireza. His potential should be crazy high especially since he can train like a saiyan or be like majin buu and absorb people's power. Black learned how to gain access to the god ki in goku's body in a few days of time once seeing goku fight. He also got stronger the more he got hurt as in on the spot power ups on a consistent basis. No one in dragon ball has been able to grow in strength like that.

@superhero24: agreed

Freeza's potential has been suggested to be enormous. Once he acquired a new transformation he immediately went to go fight Goku. It was never suggested that he reached maximum strength. He also made enormous gains that completely exceed anything that Gohan has done.

The correct answer is Oob and Pan followed by Goten.

The arithmetic is sound, the math is not.

1- Explain why do you have them both at same PL

2- Explain why you are using Frieza's first known PL vs Gohan PL as a 4 yo

3- Explain why set an arbitrary number like 4 Billion

Why is that a feat? he already knew how to use God ki beforehand

Bulla has far more potential than uub and pan,she was born from a Ssb vegeta and delivered by a angel if she turns into a fighter she will probably surpass everyone,keep in mind toriyama did say if she was a fighter she could easily go ssj he also said she was born really strong compared to pan

@rukelnikovftw: we are attempting to guage potential. There are no known power levels pretty much last the android saga as its all guess work. Unless you are under the impression that Gohan cannot match golden frieza under any circumstance than using them reaching the same point on a graph of their potentials is a valid way to compare them. At equilibrium Gohan will have had the higher percentage growth.

I already explained the usage of the numbers I chose. I could actually use 1 for gohans base powerlevel, but chose 120 as it better represents an average of the powerlevels he showed while enraged and during various stages of the raditz encounter.

Friezas powerlevel was stated to never be below his first form. He says he never trained in his life and you have admitted he was born with a much higher power level. So regardless of whether you agree with my choice of references, if Gohan can reach golden frieza level, which we have no reason to believe he can't or hasn't at the current point in the series, than we must conclude that he has the higher potential. Defined as the percentage growth from a definitive starting point.

@killraven4334: future trunks surpass golden freiza level in a couple of days he went to ssj2 level to god tier that fast guess vegeta genes are better than goku

@odinslayer: his gains are still lower than even goku and vegeta.... as both goku and vegeta started at a lower base power level. Why are people hyping frieza whose power level rise was nothing but a catchup plot devise starting from an absurdly high base number? No matter how high frieza raises his power level if he can be matched by any saijin or half saijin he has lower potential than them. There is proof to support the idea that if frieza kept training he would be unbeatable, but there is proof to show that no matter how strong an opponent is, if Gohan trains and gets furious or otherwise has his potential unlocked he becomes more powerful than anyone. Gohan surpassed goku and vegeta by a huge margin in cell saga. Old kai again had Gohan surpass goku and vegeta. So Now you want to say that goku and vegeta are too far beyond Gohan to catch up? Nonsense, so because it is well known that Gohan has a higher potential than his father, and his father has surpassed golden frieza, it's clear that Gohan will do the same. In conclusion, frieza has been matched and beaten by saijins repeatedly. Pis allowed him to catch up, there has never been any assertion that he grows stronger with battle or near death, his potential is limited to training growth which he doesn't even like to do. Gohan gains strength through training, rage, injuries, and has vast untapped levels of strength. Just imagine if mystic Gohan went ssj blue? Just imagine it

Neither Goku nor Vegeta have increased that much in the course of four months. Not once and not ever. Freeza's potential is significantly greater than theirs by a huge margin and by causality, greater than Gohan's as well.

Trunks and especially Goten are leagues ahead of anyone else in the series in terms of power potential

@odinslayer: ermmmm in Namek saga Goku progressed thousands of times stronger from start of his journey to end of Frieza fight.... Probably a span of like two weeks that's well beyond what Frieza did

Goten and Trunks aren't leagues ahead of anybody else, they just started out stronger but never actually increased, even after entering the Rosat, which should have boosted their individual battle powers by an enormous threshold if they were as gifted as you claim. Even after merging and combing their potential, and receiving the benefits of the Metamoran, Gohan wound up more powerful.

Freeza's battle power increased by millions of times. It isn't even comparable.

Golden Freeza > Goku SSJ Blue (Freeza Arc) > Goku SSJG Red =/= Omega Shenron > Goku SSJ4 (Limits Surpassed) > Goku SSJ4 (Super 17 Arc) > Goku SSJ4 (Baby Arc) > Baby Vegeta (2) > Vegetto SSJ3 (Buu Arc) > Vegetto SSJ (Buu Arc) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Organic Freeza