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#1 Edited by roriia (252 posts) - - Show Bio

We have seen him create arena with a finger-click and summoning objects without angel staff, does that count as reality warper or is he using special ability?

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#2 Posted by Lord_Spectrum (4244 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say matter/molecular/atomic/subatomic manipulation, rather than Reality Warping.

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#3 Posted by SeaGod (4654 posts) - - Show Bio

not really reality warping though possible creationism.

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#4 Edited by MajinBlackheart (9288 posts) - - Show Bio

If he was it wouldn't​ take so damn long to make the Tournament of Power stage

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#5 Posted by LpnQ (3954 posts) - - Show Bio

If he was it wouldn't​ take so damn long to make the Tournament of Power stage

ever heard of plot?

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#6 Posted by MajinBlackheart (9288 posts) - - Show Bio

@lpnq: Ever heard of wild assumptions and conclusions?

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#7 Posted by LpnQ (3954 posts) - - Show Bio

@lpnq: Ever heard of wild assumptions and conclusions?

exactly what you're making right now.

Not going to continue replying to you, if for some ungodly reason you do want to play the macho game on comicvine lmao. You're notorius for wanking so it's better to leave toxic materials in a dumping bin.

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#8 Posted by MajinBlackheart (9288 posts) - - Show Bio

@lpnq: Are you sure you're thinking of the correct person? Who exactly do I "wank?" I've never heard this in all my time here so if it has gained me notoriety, it must be in a secret PM somewhere.

I also don't know what you mean about being "macho." I don't see how what I said is bravado or intimidation or anything.

These are some wild accusations for me simply making a tongue in cheek comment about how long it took to get this tournament started.

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#9 Posted by deactivated-5b728068f211c (7069 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn´t he create the void space or something like that? Might be wrong but if he created the space void then he is a reality warper.

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#10 Posted by RukelnikovFTW (6131 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn´t he create the void space or something like that? Might be wrong but if he created the space void then he is a reality warper.

This, creating something out of nothing is not matter manipulation

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#11 Posted by Perethorn (6289 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say so...

Not only because he can create objects from nowhere, but also because he can manipulate the physics of a place, even the abilities of a person.

Just take a look at the tournament limitations, he can make that the participants feel heavier or lighter (depending of the gravity of their planets) and eliminate their fly skill, as Goku was able to notice.

Those are some OP skills if you ask me

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#12 Posted by MainJP (5886 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say so...

Not only because he can create objects from nowhere, but also because he can manipulate the physics of a place, even the abilities of a person.

Just take a look at the tournament limitations, he can make that the participants feel heavier or lighter (depending of the gravity of their planets) and eliminate their fly skill, as Goku was able to notice.

Those are some OP skills if you ask me

Didn't even think about it like that, he is OP...

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#13 Edited by Clamps (389 posts) - - Show Bio

Seems more magic summoning based. Piccolo can conjure items for example.

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#14 Posted by MajinBlackheart (9288 posts) - - Show Bio

@lpnq: I guess we'll leave it as false accusations then.

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#15 Posted by LpnQ (3954 posts) - - Show Bio

@jloneblackheart: I guess you can't read. I said I won't be replying to you man child. As to the pm thing, please nobody knows you or wants to waste a pm convo over you.

I won't be furthering this convo as you have more experience than me at dumbing down society. Good night

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#16 Posted by MajinBlackheart (9288 posts) - - Show Bio

@lpnq: Says the boy who just turned 18. We all know how the site values your salty anime battle comments that add no value to the discussion, threads about chimpanzees and the Christian Youth gag that never took off. You're full of shit and overreacted over nothing. Given your stature, I can see why you're so thin-skinned.

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#17 Edited by PurpleDeaDragon (2137 posts) - - Show Bio

Not even 20 posts in and this is already as toxic as my Sister's cooking.

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#18 Posted by LpnQ (3954 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol he mentally broke down. I'm going to make a Christian youth vs chimpanzee thread tommorow just for the hell of it.

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#19 Posted by MainJP (5886 posts) - - Show Bio
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#20 Posted by deactivated-5b728068f211c (7069 posts) - - Show Bio
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#21 Posted by MajinBlackheart (9288 posts) - - Show Bio

Not even 20 posts in and this is already as toxic as my Sister's cooking.

Nah, the thread's OK. I can handle unwarranted aggression but I'm just not in the mood to have people spread lies about me.

I'll go finish my "mental breakdown" now while he cries himself to sleep because one of us is at least telling the truth.

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#22 Posted by RukelnikovFTW (6131 posts) - - Show Bio

@lpnq said:

Lol he mentally broke down. I'm going to make a Christian youth vs chimpanzee thread tommorow just for the hell of it.

Tag me

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#23 Posted by Scotchbear (2114 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by RukelnikovFTW (6131 posts) - - Show Bio

@scotchbear: I think so, but I wanna hear the arguments for Christian Youth

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#25 Posted by Thedarkpaladin (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

Not even 20 posts in and this is already as toxic as my Sister's cooking.

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OT: I wouldn't say so.

On another note, that chimpanzee thread probably didn't turn out the way he thought it would.

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#26 Edited by deactivated-5a39421825b35 (2981 posts) - - Show Bio

@rukelnikovftw: Dang SC locked the Christian Youth vs. chimps thread.

I was gonna make a hell of an argument for the power of prayer.

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#28 Posted by Thedarkpaladin (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_vulcan: Yeah, I noticed that thread before I even read through the posts here. Lol

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#29 Posted by MajinBlackheart (9288 posts) - - Show Bio

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Did it really say he created the void though? I don't recall. Thinking more about it, I think dimensional manipulation may be more accurate. Whis has shown this when he was training Goku and Vegeta with the weights as well as sending them to the place similar to the ROSAT.

Almost caught up (still haven't seen episode 96) so I should have probably waited to comment. Soimds like he can manipulate gravity and maybe genetics? I'll see for myself, but reality warping means he can literally control everything to a certain extent. We haven't seen him do anything yet that couldn't be broken down into a smaller category.

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#30 Posted by Gaoron (8249 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_vulcan: Yeah, I noticed that thread before I even read through the posts here. Lol

Same and i dont even know what this thread was about and why it got banned xD

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#31 Edited by RukelnikovFTW (6131 posts) - - Show Bio
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#32 Posted by zoldycklogic (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

For now we can at least say that he can wrap reality in this Void. He is acting like an actual god doing whatever he wants with abilities...

But we still don't know about the outside world.

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#33 Posted by BlackGoku (262 posts) - - Show Bio

@lpnq: Plot as an excuse? Lol. Get off the internet. Shut it down.

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#34 Posted by deactivated-5b728068f211c (7069 posts) - - Show Bio

@lpnq: Plot as an excuse? Lol. Get off the internet. Shut it down.

He got banned, he wont respond.

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#35 Posted by U_WOT_M8 (1400 posts) - - Show Bio

Who knows what he can do, he probably is a reality warper with the same ability as the supreme kai in creating stuff

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#36 Edited by nilok (736 posts) - - Show Bio

@u_wot_m8 said:

Who knows what he can do, he probably is a reality warper with the same ability as the supreme kai in creating stuff

Now, would the restriction in abilities such as flying for specific people be a property of the world of void, or something caused by the Grand Priest? It is possible that these are properties of the world of void that could be controlled. However, it could also be the Grand Priest "writing" the rules for the universe to act is such a way, and the world of void is simply the best place for it because there aren't any preexisting rules there to get in the way.

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#37 Posted by RukelnikovFTW (6131 posts) - - Show Bio

@nilok: He created that space, did he not? I assume he choose the rules

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#38 Posted by TheDeathstar (4064 posts) - - Show Bio

That guy not only created an Arena made out of Super Katchin but also disabled fighters from flying and each fighter had his own Gravity affection from his home planet. That's enough proof he can warp Reality.

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#39 Edited by nilok (736 posts) - - Show Bio

@rukelnikovftw: I was under the impression that the World of Void simply existed, it was chosen as the ideal location due to the potentially destructive nature of the fight which would dissuade any universe from holding the tournament and acted as a true no man's land. The World of Void, from my understanding, is the place outside of the 12 universes, where time does not exist and is truly infinite.

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#40 Edited by RukelnikovFTW (6131 posts) - - Show Bio

@nilok said:

@rukelnikovftw: I was under the impression that the World of Void simply existed, it was chosen as the ideal location due to the potentially destructive nature of the fight which would dissuade any universe from holding the tournament and acted as a true no man's land. The World of Void, from my understanding, is the place outside of the 12 universes, where time does not exist and is truly infinite.

Ok so he created matter and stuff in a place outside of the multiverse, right?

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#41 Posted by nilok (736 posts) - - Show Bio

@rukelnikovftw: Oh ya, most definitely. He created something from literal nothing and appears to have given a zone of that nothing rules and properties.

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#42 Posted by mrx1122 (2919 posts) - - Show Bio

Now that we have more feats of him I think we can bump this

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#43 Posted by TheDeathstar (4064 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes he is.

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#44 Posted by Skrskr (3338 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah but probably limited to what he can do with it, the material he made for the stage is ridiculously dense and probably super durable so that’s a solid feat.

Probably not warping reality though as he is just creating things out of ki.

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#45 Posted by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

When did he ever reality warp? Don't remember them ever saying he created the world of void and it seems to have it's own settings

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#46 Posted by kingpin1 (440 posts) - - Show Bio

Speaking of reality warping, I am surprised that no fighters in the tournament had reality warping. Would have liked to see Universe 7 have to deal with a strong reality warper. Yes some have a small reality field like Hit using his freezing of Jiren and Coquette's shield, but no fighter was a true reality warper.

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#47 Posted by TheDeathstar (4064 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan said:

When did he ever reality warp? Don't remember them ever saying he created the world of void and it seems to have it's own settings

How does it have a setting for mortal only? We also see Grand priest changing its color. Enough of a proof he did it all and it was already mentioned it's a void with infinite nothingness.

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#48 Posted by Galactic_1000 (5585 posts) - - Show Bio

You can't change colour of nothingness it's defy logic itself.

I believe GP is reality warper but not so powerful

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#49 Posted by TheDeathstar (4064 posts) - - Show Bio

You can't change colour of nothingness it's defy logic itself.

I believe GP is reality warper but not so powerful

Yea but you can add color out of nothingness. Also logic do not apply to reality warping.

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#50 Posted by Galactic_1000 (5585 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedeathstar: No if u did it's not nothingness.Nothingness logic do apply to RW