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The first thing i did was, find, the universe size which is 98 billion light years, than i divid by 4 to get the quarter of it which is 23,250,000,000 light years than converted that to miles which is 136,678,039,927,000,000,000,000 miles. I used king kai's statement when he said " it would take goku two days" to get there i converted days to hours which is 48 than i divid them both to get the speed 136,678,039,927,000,000,000,000 miles / 48 hours which is 2.8474592 × 10^21 or (2,847,459,200,000,000,000,000 miles per hour) or (4246031301988.2573242 the speed of light). goku also has Kaioken so just times that by 4 and you get (546,712,160,000,000,000,000,000 miles per hour) or (16,984,125,000,000 the speed of light) ""lowball scale""

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Snake way is only a million kilometers, lol. The speed calc puts him around mach 30. And if you want to say that distance is wrong, well guess what, it took stronger characters like Krillin hours to cross Namek, and buu saga Gohan 20 minutes to fly to school. So yeah, one million kilmoteres is almost definitely the right distance, not the length of the universe.

However, Goku's max combat speed is not limited to mach 30. He can be argued anywhere from massively hypersonic to somewhere in the low faster than light range. There is no actual way to outright prove his exact speed, but if you think power levels and speed scale linearly, and the statement stating his kami training would make his strikes faster than lightning is legit, then he would be at least mach 300 with a power level of around 300. So he would be roughly sub relativistic after his king kai training.

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Probably relativistic+. Scales above Raditz who dodged SBC and a weaker beam from Piccolo reached the moon in seconds.

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@eredin12: Everything in that post is a legit fact. I even said he could be argued to low FTL speeds, which is what you just said, so your post doesn't even disagree with mine.

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Supersonic+

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snake way being 1 million kilometers is massive lowball since in this photo you can see snake way reaches 1 quarter of the universe. @alextheboss

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@over-nine-thousand: That map isn't to scale, unless you think king kai's planet is multi galaxy in size. It's most reasonable to go with the given statement of it's length, especially when it lines up with every other travel speed feat in the series. It was literally impossible for even post namek saga ssj Goku to go to Roshi's house and back in a second without instant transmission, so even at that point he did not have FTL travel speed.

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FTL+ with Kaioken

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@over-nine-thousand: That video just proves super Goku is way faster than light, which I agree with.

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At least FTL

Massively scaling above Piccolo Relativistic+ feat after the Raditz fight ( His Ki Blast reached the Moon in about 4 seconds )

As well as scaling above Raditz who reacted to Piccolo Special Beam Canon which is arguably LS

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Even kid Goku was MFTL+

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@alextheboss: here's a better feat, tein hit goku with a solar flare light travels off course at light speed goku had enough time to take roshi's glasses and hit tien at the same time "light speed" lolol

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supersonic speed in saiyan saga

but in dbs he is ftl

@gelato_exotic:lol no proof goku is ftl in saiyan saga. only gotenks lv characters are ftl based on feat as gotenks circled earth multiple times in a panel

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@over-nine-thousand: He knew the attack was coming and just took the glasses before the light blinded him.

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@alextheboss: how fast do you think gotenks is based on his feat of circling earth multiple times in a panel? minimum he is relativistic and maximum i guess ftl. but what do you think?

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@alancalm12: If we use the anime time frame I'm pretty sure it's relativistic, but if you use the 30 minute time frame it could be lowballed to sub relativistic. Either way his max combat speed should be faster. So yeah, he should be relativistic at minimum, to many times faster than light.

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still tho the legend about it being 1 million kilometers is still massive lowball maybe kilometers in dbz is actually large the real kilometers we us ein real life who knows?

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Snake way around 1 million kilometers. Goku only hypersonic range in raw travel speed.

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@lordragoon: its just a myth so 1 million kilometers should be taken seriously

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snake way being 1 million kilometers is massive lowball since in this photo you can see snake way reaches 1 quarter of the universe. @alextheboss

that photo is not reliable at all I thought we been stopped using this map

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@alextheboss: here's a better feat, tein hit goku with a solar flare light travels off course at light speed goku had enough time to take roshi's glasses and hit tien at the same time "light speed" lolol

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the glasses was right there and he saw tien load the attack in the manga (aim dodged it)

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@alextheboss: Base goku in namek had already done FTL feats

The only possible FTL feat he has is if Frieza's death beams are light speed. If they are then base Goku would be FTL, but if not, no other feat he has is FTL.

I do think it's highly Frieza's death beams are light speed though, as it was so flash it looked like a flash of light to Piccolo, who should be able to track sub relativistic to relativistic attacks with his eyes.

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@alextheboss:

He does actually:

https://youtu.be/Q7SsiWj7H44

Minute 26

Goku outruns the explosion that's look pretty similar to a nuclear blast.

This is lowballing the speed since an explosion of that magnitude would be faster , a normal nuke expansion is around 3 microseconds goku outran what seemed to be several miles.

Let's just use 1 Mile for a Lowball and around 2.9 microseconds since goku made it in the nick of time.

Goku would be moving at 1200000000 MPH

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@clarkkent10: Lookin git up, it seems thermal radiation of a nuke comes out at the speed of light, however the actual explosions shockwave itself isn't nearly that fast, so this would depend if you think Frieza's explosion has a similar thermal radiation wave that comes out like a nuke. If it does, this would actually back up base Goku during the Frieza fight being FTL, which would go along with him blocking Frieza's death beams which were described as a beam of light. I do think this version of Goku being FTL is very possible. I don't really think saiyan saga characters are though. Everyone was actually amazed Goku could outrun the explosion, so if it is a FTL feat due to him outrunning a light speed explosion, that would imply the other characters aren't FTL yet.

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Frieza arc Piccolo could easily out pace his saiyan saga moon beam, but couldn't register Frieza's death beams at all. I'd say that's clear evidence of them hitting FTL past that point.

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Over 10xFTL with Kaiokenx4 tbh lol at Relativistic or MHS

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Relativistic to ftl I think.

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ftl via kaioken.

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@dbzfan44: nice calc put it on db discussion for more views ( am going to do a bit of calc my self to see what my answer is lol

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ftl

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Between snail and infinite speed.

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ah yes, snake way.

Moon/Distance to Earth384,400 km

Snake way 1 million km.

Seems legit>>>

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Piccolo with a power lv of 322 blew up the moon In 3 seconds

So weighted Piccolo was 30% speed of light

So someone with a power level of 1,000 + would be bare minimum LS


Since you multiply around 3.34 x to get to 100% LS

Goku power level was 8,000

So he’d be 8 x FTL in base

Kaio Ken x 2 his base so 16 x FTL with KKx2

Kaio Ken x 3 his base so 24 x FTL

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BOZ Goku: Relativistic+

Saiyan Saga: FTL

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Saiyan Saga Goku is around relativistic+

Goku kaioken x10 and Freeza death beams are first lightspeed feats in my opinion. Also, after his power up, Vegeta was able to react to freeza death beam when he smacked gohan out the path of one that killed dende.

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ftl

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mhs+.

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Ftl with kaio Ken.

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ftl with kaio ken