@phantomrant said:
@ad-arts said:
There is no evidence Kale is anywhere near SSB because Goku NEVER goes full power from the start. And he just started testing her...
Where you see inconsitency i see... consistency. Goku never, ever goes full power untill the very end. It was nowhere near the end. He was testing her, like eveyrbody else so far, gradually increasing power to first match the opponent, then overpower. It is what Goku does, every time.
We see Kale casually walking through a SSJB Goku and then ragdolling him. You can claim he wasn't using SSJB's full power, but there's also nothing suggesting he was using anything below SSJB's normal power as otherwise he wouldn't have transformed into SSJB when he couldn't do jack to Kale. At max SSJB power, Goku may be able to beat her. But he also might not....
We see Kale casually walking through a SSJB Goku and then ragdolling him.
Again transformation does not mean max power, unless it is max power They transform to achieve greater power than without it, but greater than before, does not equal max, does it?
So what we see her casually walking through ssb? It still says nothing, why? Full power SSB is powerfull like hell, but i would assume minimum power SSB is as low power as Goku wants it to be. He obviously had to transform in order to acheive higher power than SSJ2 can generate, but he could have just as well increase it above SSJ2, slightly above... he can do that.
there's also nothing suggesting he was using anything below SSJB's normal power
Sure there is, and it is his character, it is what he does... Also, was he tired? No, he always is after max power kamehama. Hell he seemd like he did not even excercise at all.. In very good mood, happy, smiling like there was no fight just a moment ago, ready to fight Jiren. Goku used nowhere near his max power, period.
It was whether or not Kale is anywhere near SSJB level, which she clearly is.
Untill you prove Goku was using anywher near max power, no she is not. All evidence says he was not using max, even near max. Going ssb means squat. Unless you think he needed it against Krillin, or they needed it against u9, they clearly did not.
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