Base Vegeta now SSB level. Confirmed.

Going off of the way people analyze feats here, according to you guys, base Vegeta has SSB level durability now. Confirmed.

Is this how these topics work?

Stop lowballing Vegeta you DeeBeeZee hater.

@mainjp: How am I low balling? I just confirmed base Vegeta is now SSB level?

He did absolutely nothing to Jiren

@emanresu_20: are you serious? he was tanking punches from Jiren who swatted away blue kale with air pressure.

This is exactly how feat works Base Vegeta is SSB level.

Pretty sure Jiren really wasn't trying all that much against Vegeta. He was clearly holding back.

@LeonardoTMNT: you have no proof he was holding back no such statement was made at all in the episode.

if anything vegeta was supressing himself as he had enuff ki to make an paralyzed base goku back to ssj blue lol.

That seems to be the case yeah, zenkais maybe?

To be fair,it was obvious jiren was toying with him.

@slimj87d: He's being sarcastic

No proof. Feat logic, Base Vegeta is SSB Level!!

Comicvine Hidden Rule No.22: There's no such thing as obvious even when its obvious.

It confirms Jiren is only barely above Base tier, and SSB is around base level

@apex_pretador: Nope he allready one shot ssj blue but struglinh with base saiyan's they are far above full powered ssj blue since last episodw just in their base.

Which means super saiyan blue is weaker than even base.

@apex_pretador: There is different levels of base Just like there is different level of other forms not all ssj 1 and 2's have the same power, that counts for god forms too. Right now their base is stronger than past god forms and their current god forms are even stronger than their current base.

It was even noted there was no power in Vegeta's punches, he was weak asf in this episode. Jiren was clearly holding back. Only reason he didn't one shot Vegeta is probably because he gained respect for him throughout the battle.

Isn't anyone here taking it into consideration that Jiren was holding back so he wouldn't kill Vegeta,

There's also that fact too.

I mean yea we know. I was just trolling those feat logic people who make entire argument illogical.

Oh, ok. I thought you were being serious.

It was quite obvious I was not lol.

I can never tell around these parts, hahaha.

Jiren > Base Vegeta > UI Goku > ASSJB Vegeta > KKB Goku > Blue Goku/Vegeta > Jiren > Base Goku and Vegeta

Is that right?

@LeonardoTMNT: there is no evidence jiren was holding back as it wasn't stated that he was holding back.

@chaos239: Jiren >>> mastered ui >>>> ui goku >>> ssj blue vegeta >>> ssj vegeta >>> base vegeta >>> ui Goku >>> Jiren>>> hit>>> kefla 2>>> ssj blue kk20x

17 is stronger than the vegeta from this current episode.

SSJB weaker than base forms confirmed, transformations actually make you weaker.

True facts right here ^^^

He made Jiren block. That's a huge feat

Bad writing, considering the fact Jiren tanked hits from ssj and ssj2 Goku like nothing.

Base Veget and Base Goku didn't land one hit. Jiren was just toying with them and he had to hold back as to not accidentally kill them. Final form Frieza pushed Jiren more than base Goku/Vegeta did. His final form Frieza blue level as well? lol

Hilarious op. Made my day. xD

Wondering why Jiren bothered blocking when he chested everything up to ssj2 though.

Toei writers bruh.

It seemed pretty obvious Jiren wasn't taking him seriously and even remarked on his failure to sustain a standard SSJ transformation.

It's funny because it's really how dbz haters on this site argue stuff.

Hero derp dyspo is the first ftl character just because

Herp derp Goku isn't planet level

Herp derp we hate dbz herp derp

Then when you use their tactics against them

Herp derp well obviously even though it was shown or stated he obviously is obviously holding back obviously. It's obvious.

Obviously our favorite characters don't need feats because it's obvious that they obviously have feats it's just obvious. But Goku needs feats because obviously he doesn't have any just like ours obviously doesn't but it's obvious we are obviously better. Obviously

Base Gevata is Jiren lvl so Saying-jin beyond Cyan Gevata is Whis level at least!!!!11!!!1!!!ONE!1!!!!

@nemesisreloaded: lol xd

People seems to have forgot the no killing rule in TOP.

I really hope the people saying base Vegeta is the level of any SSB are trolling.

@alextheboss: yeah he is stronger than than that actuelly, base vegeta is kefla 2 level.

I am gonna agree there lmao. They even deny scaling even if its there.

Would it really surprised anybody if that was true XD.