@i_like_swords: Nothing to do with superiority. It's just been widely acknowledged on this site that Steve is considered enhanced human. I mentioned earlier peak is considered Olympic level, as in the character is regularly training intensively with no "enhancements." And guess what, Captain America is enhanced with a little something called the Super Soldier Serum. I'm not going to debate about semantics and comic book science with you, because it's a waste of time. Just telling you how it is.
Note the lack of sarcasm there.
Well it is to do with superiority. Don't try to go back on what you said now.
"I really don't like this new breed of users" as if we're some kind of new unwanted species that don't know what they're talking about, but obviously you're superior to them because you're more knowledgeable than them.
You're forgetting that once you were a noob to comics, just like everyone was at some point. You've probably had a misconception about something, just like other people in this "new breed of users" you don't like might have. I wonder if someone didn't like you for being new?
Aside from that, the point you aren't getting is is that Cap isn't as far off of people like Batman as you're making him out to be. A noticeable bit, perhaps, but not that much. The serum gives Cap the absolute best physical condition a human can ever hope to reach, but nothing exceeding that. It's never been put out in black and white that 616 cap is a metahuman.
I'll quote what OOWW already posted, from Ed Brubaker. It pretty much confirms what I said:
"I agree with parts of a lot of people's comments here and elsewhere. But I think it's a bit funny to see people get so bent out of shape when a guy who's given something called the 'Super Soldier Serum' turns out to be a bit more than the average human. He's been leaping out of the windows of eight story buildings and across city streets in NYC, dodging bullets, doing amazing feats of speed and strength, since I started reading the book in the early 70s.
My take has always been that Cap is the peak of human POTENTIAL.What humans might someday be able to do, physically, he already can. If it was just about having an olypic-level athlete, do you really think all these groups and scientists would have been wasting 50plus years trying to replicate the SSS?
All I've done is have him say outloud what's always been pretty clear to me as a fan of the character. He's always been a lot stronger and faster than the average well-trained athlete. And I've always hated the Batman comparisons. Batman trained himself, Cap got given a miracle serum. I'm not making that up or changing anything.
Daredevil is more like Batman, physically, and yet in Born Again, Cap races by him so fast he's a breeze. As for Cap running 60mph. In the comic, I think he says he can run a mile in a little over a minute when he HAS to. It's not even implied that he can keep that up all day. It's a full-on burst of speed, when he has to."
Surely that's enough for you, but it probably won't be.
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