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Posted by gmanfromheck (42524 posts) - - Show Bio

Last May, the DC Universe went through a "Rebirth." The publisher made some changes and brought back classic elements to characters. The release of the 80-page DC Universe: Rebirth issue delivered a lot of developments, and some questions are still unanswered. One of the mysteries we saw was the revelation that someone from outside the universe was responsible for the changes that occurred back in 2011. Batman discovered a button embedded in the wall of the Batcave--one that is familiar to anyone who's read Watchmen.

In April, Batman and the Flash are going to investigate the significance of this button.

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"The Button" takes place in a four-part story arc spanning issues #21 and #22 of both Batman and The Flash. The Batman issues are by Tom King and Jason Fabok, and the Flash issues are by Joshua Williamson and Howard Porter. Each issue is priced at $2.99. They will also be available with special lenticular covers for $3.99 each.

DC's two greatest detectives will attempt to solve the mystery of the blood-stained smiley face button. All signs point to Watchmen's Dr. Manhattan being responsible. DC has stated the secrets of the button will "prove irresistible to an unwelcome third party--and it's not who anyone suspects."

The mystery will begin to unravel on April 19.

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#1 Posted by Aros001 (3644 posts) - - Show Bio

I know there are plenty of people who are not happy with the Watchmen Universe being pulled into the mainstream DC universe, but with how well Rebirth has been going I am cautiously optimistic. I mean, no matter what happens the original Watchmen story will still be left as one of the greatest comics of all time. If this all goes well then people can enjoy the continuation and if it goes badly then people will just ignore them and keep reading Watchmen as its own thing.

I don't see the need to judge something as a failure before we've even seen anything major about it yet.

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#2 Posted by NightFang3 (12362 posts) - - Show Bio

@aros001 said:

I don't see the need to judge something as a failure before we've even seen anything major about it yet.

You most be new here.

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#3 Edited by entropy_aegis (20830 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman vs Bane, the greatest fight in the history of Gotham, one will live while the other will die and then in 2 weeks return for the button.... Kings Batman just took fail to a whole new level. At the very least they could have held back for 2 issues but nope have a button folks. This is what the main Batman book has been reduced to, a worthless crossover machine. The only thing this book has accomplished is create 3 crossovers in less than a year.More importantly why not just tell this story in JL? Batman has no stake in this moronic button, this isn't like Superman or Flash at all. No wonder Kings book sucks, he's just killing time and pages, his own stories are worthless filler period.

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#4 Posted by Yarva (2937 posts) - - Show Bio

It's definitely Manhattan. In a recent issue a telepath was seeing images of the past and all she could see was the word Manhattan.

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#5 Posted by 2cool4fun (2418 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Batman has always been the 1 DC book that has a shit ton of crossovers, almost as much as marvel, thankfully at least the rest of DC is pretty self contained.

But hey, we need to start that Rebirth mystery at some point.

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#6 Posted by deactivated-5aeee927346fb (1531 posts) - - Show Bio
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#7 Posted by entropy_aegis (20830 posts) - - Show Bio

@2cool4fun: Since when? The Snyder era crossovers were actually relevant to Batman, JL vs SS and this button are not. Even Monster Men was used for the benefit of Batwoman.They can start their mystery in JL and spare us Batman fans these worthless storylines. Batman has no stake in this Rebirth storyline and the book does not need a sales boost. This decision is not justified on any level. Batman has become this years Truth.

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#8 Posted by NukeA6 (914 posts) - - Show Bio

Took them long enough. I was wondering when Batman would get some detective work on that button.

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#10 Edited by JimCorrigan (2 posts) - - Show Bio
@nightfang3 said:

@aros001 said:

I don't see the need to judge something as a failure before we've even seen anything major about it yet.

You most be new here.

Most be?

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#11 Posted by FreedomZebra (77 posts) - - Show Bio

Cool. I've been looking forward to this since Rebirth. I love the idea of Batman and Flash solving a mystery together. I thought it might happen in a miniseries or something, but hey, this is good too. I don't care for what Tom King's been doing, so I'm a little nervous, but he might be better since he's working with Williamson.

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#12 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

Feels like it's the wrong Flash getting involved in this.

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#13 Edited by Yarva (2937 posts) - - Show Bio

Feels like it's the wrong Flash getting involved in this.

It makes sense to me since Bruce found the button right after Barry and him talked about the letter Bruce's father wrote him during Flashpoint.

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#14 Posted by dondave (41752 posts) - - Show Bio

Feels like it's the wrong Flash getting involved in this.

To be fair Barry was involved with whatever Manhattan did, so it makes sense that he'd be investigating.

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#15 Posted by The_Kidd (11984 posts) - - Show Bio

What about Wally and the Titans?

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#16 Posted by the_stegman (40194 posts) - - Show Bio

Question should be involved.

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#17 Posted by D9000 (1637 posts) - - Show Bio

Ohhhh, tell me more...

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#19 Posted by NightFang3 (12362 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkhoudini: It was a fun action/monster story that setup events in other Bat books.

@entropy_aegis: Your just being dramatic, the stories are fun, fast paced, and bring in the rest of the DC universe.

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#20 Posted by NukeA6 (914 posts) - - Show Bio

@nightfang3: I honestly thought I was the only one who liked Night of the Monster Men. Yeah it didn't end as well as it could have and should have stayed within Detective Comics but I really don't see how it was terrible. At least it didn't drag on like Zero Year did.

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#21 Posted by kalorama (252 posts) - - Show Bio

"DC's two greatest detectives. . ."

So, no Ralph Dibny in Nu52 DC?

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#22 Posted by laughingbatman (1827 posts) - - Show Bio

*geeking out hard*

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#23 Edited by RabumAlal (4981 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks good. Don't get the Batman hate.

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#24 Posted by Yarva (2937 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalorama said:

"DC's two greatest detectives. . ."

So, no Ralph Dibny in Nu52 DC?

or Detective Chimp

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#25 Posted by waezi2 (24654 posts) - - Show Bio
@dondave said:
@outside_85 said:

Feels like it's the wrong Flash getting involved in this.

To be fair Barry was involved with whatever Manhattan did, so it makes sense that he'd be investigating.

And unlike Wally, he is actually a cop. A forensic scientist on top of that. He solves crime for a living.

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#26 Posted by deactivated-5caa8c47e8598 (1686 posts) - - Show Bio

I have trust in DC as of right now. Rebirth's been mostly good, and a whole lot better than Marvel's current offerings.

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#27 Edited by Black_Arrow (10258 posts) - - Show Bio

King's book has been mediocre so I don't mind a crossover at all. I don't think that the crossovers are the main reason why King's writing isn't up to its usual standard. Four issues for an arc, should be good enough to write a fantastic story, even a single issue should be more than enough to do that. King has done that on the past. He is just having a bad book happens to the best of writers. I think that he is not completely sure with what he is doing, before he has mostly worked with more obscure characters that aren't as famous as Batman and the previous run in the Batman title was a critically acclaimed run that lasted 51 issues. So he just can't do whatever he wants like on his other titles.

I loved DC rebirth issues, so I am looking foward to any follow up on that. I am still not too thrilled of involving the Watchmen but I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

Also I think that Batman and Flash are being teamed up as a way to reflect on Flashpoint. In there Thomas Wayne Batman and Flash, "created" the new 52 and now they are going to fix it.

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#28 Posted by Aros001 (3644 posts) - - Show Bio

King's book has been mediocre so I don't mind a crossover at all. I don't think that the crossovers are the main reason why King's writing isn't up to its usual standard. Four issues for an arc, should be good enough to write a fantastic story, even a single issue should be more than enough to do that. King has done that on the past. He is just having a bad book happens to the best of writers. I think that he is not completely sure with what he is doing, before he has mostly worked with more obscure characters that aren't as famous as Batman. And the previous run in the Batman title was a critically acclaimed run that lasted 51 issues. So he just can't do whatever he wants like on his other titles.

I loved DC rebirth issues, so I am looking forward to any follow up on that. I am still not too thrilled of involving the Watchmen but I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

Also I think that Batman and Flash are being teamed up as a way to reflect on Flashpoint. In there Thomas Wayne Batman and Flash, "created" the new 52 and now they are going to fix it.

I like this insight, especially that last bit at the end, which I didn't even think of.

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#29 Posted by Cagnazzo82 (226 posts) - - Show Bio

Bout time! Batman finally got around to dusting that button out of his collection and actually investigating it, haha.

Very much looking forward to the Watchmen/DC mega story arc. They've had enough time to hash it out at this point, so it better turn out good... (I also have faith in DC at this point, so it will likely be a fantastic storyline).

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#30 Posted by nickschuff (31 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually really looking forward to reading this. It's nice to know that the story will move forward with the Watchmen-plot which I think everyone wants to read about whether or not you love or hate the idea. Batman and the Flash holding that button still feels so impossible yet it's actually a reality and I for one couldn't be more excited to read about it!

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#31 Posted by superior_prime_maybe (1360 posts) - - Show Bio

"The two greatest detectives"

Yes! !!

Batman and Flash need to team up more

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#33 Posted by MasterOfEvil (1671 posts) - - Show Bio

Looking forward to this. The mystery and intrigue is driving me wild!

P.S.: It seems a bit TOO obvious that it's Doc Manhattan as the main villain. He involved, no doubt, but someone else may be the real puppet master.

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#34 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (15883 posts) - - Show Bio

Fabok is too dope.

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#35 Posted by JimCorrigan (2 posts) - - Show Bio

@yarva said:
@kalorama said:

"DC's two greatest detectives. . ."

So, no Ralph Dibny in Nu52 DC?

or Detective Chimp

or Question

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#36 Posted by Dr_Cheesesteak (270 posts) - - Show Bio

This'll be the one crossover w/ Batman proper that I'll actually buy the other titles.


@kalorama said:

"DC's two greatest detectives. . ."

So, no Ralph Dibny in Nu52 DC?

he made like one appearance, but was just some undercover officer I think? I think it's under the assumption New 52/Rebirth Ralph is NOT the old Ralph *cry*

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#37 Posted by laabitres (801 posts) - - Show Bio

cant wait for this, DC has been knocking it out of the park with Rebirth

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#38 Posted by entropy_aegis (20830 posts) - - Show Bio

@nightfang3: If I want to read the rest of the DC universe I'd read the rest of the DC universe not Batman.

Not even sure what you guys are excited about, the books dealing with the main Rebirth story like Batman, Flash, Action and Titans are by far the weakest of their current line up. Moreover who cares? everyone and their grandma knows who the Watchmen are, there's no mystery for the fans. For the chracters in question there is no stake. If it were Wally and Dick then it was justified but Bruce has no business being in this story. This is a literal case of using Batman because he's Batman. Finally the Watchmen aint Star Wars they're not going to bring legions of fanboys rushing to the stores, the silliness has already played out.

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#39 Posted by redmanta (605 posts) - - Show Bio

Fabok on Batman and Porter on Flash i'm so happy

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#40 Posted by Life_Without_Progress (24261 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalorama said:

"DC's two greatest detectives. . ."

So, no Ralph Dibny in Nu52 DC?

He technically was a member of the New 52 Secret Six disguised as "Big Shot".

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#41 Edited by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

@waezi2 said:
@dondave said:
@outside_85 said:

Feels like it's the wrong Flash getting involved in this.

To be fair Barry was involved with whatever Manhattan did, so it makes sense that he'd be investigating.

And unlike Wally, he is actually a cop. A forensic scientist on top of that. He solves crime for a living.

However, he is the Flash that knows the least about this.

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#42 Posted by lordraiden (9663 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm actually quite looking forward to this and don't have any real issues with the integration of the Watchmen and how Manhattan is being handled.

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#43 Posted by Titanbreaker (1300 posts) - - Show Bio
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#44 Edited by GeekMangacomic (264 posts) - - Show Bio

@jimcorrigan:

Ralph Dibmy was in the DCYou Secret Six book I believe.

Detective Chimp may have been in a Holiday Special.

Question was in Batwoman.

On a side note, why does everybody hate the Tom King Batman series so much? I like it and it's not that bad, people just need to stop comparing it to Snyder's run.

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#45 Posted by RaunJisto (480 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_kidd: The Titans also already found out that "Manhattan" has something to do with the whole thing. Omen read Abra Kadabra'a mind, but all she got from it was the word "Manhattan". Wally and Superman also finally met and both are aware something is wrong.

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#46 Posted by justice teen (893 posts) - - Show Bio

This "rebirth" feels so forced.

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#47 Posted by Eto (5282 posts) - - Show Bio
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#48 Posted by nickschuff (31 posts) - - Show Bio

@justiceteen: I respect your opinion on why you feel that "Rebirth" has felt forced as I've seen many others claim the same thing but to me this whole story and DC's line in general has felt like the most organic thing they've done in years. I commend DC on taking their time to tell this story over two years and establishing the hints and characters so that the payoff will be big.

As for the others who claim that Batman and the Flash teaming up to work on this mystery have no reason to, my question is why not? Yes the Titans are dealing with the same mystery too, but Barry was just as central to the mystery surrounding DC Universe: Rebirth than Wally was and he then went to Batman in the Flash: Rebirth #1 to investigate the button so this seems like a very natural progression to that plot-point.

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#49 Posted by Thegamemanuel (86 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: What do you mean? Batman rebirth sales are higher then all the other rebirth comics so clearly it hasn't been the weakest of their current line up. I understand Wally but Dick? why wouldn't Bruce have any business with this mystery which might have affected the whole DC universe, he has been referred to as the world's greatest detective, so I can clearly see why he would be on the case.

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#50 Posted by fmen2016 (81 posts) - - Show Bio

@aros001: Watchmen in the DCU I say that is going to be the jam plus it make scene for JLA v Watchmen crossover event .