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ALL-NEW WOLVERINE #15

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(W) Tom Taylor (A) Djibril Morissette-Phan (CA) David Lopez

"ENEMY OF THE STATE II" CONTINUES HERE!

• Welcome to beautiful MADRIPOOR! Home to white sand beaches, five-star cuisine and a bustling criminal enterprise...

• WOLVERINE sails on the high seas with pirates, heading to the seedy city to search for information on the slaughter in Daylesville.

• Will she find those who forced her to kill? Or will this tropical hellhole be the final nail in the All-New Wolverine's coffin?

Rated T+

OCT160955 In Shops: Dec 07, 2016 SRP: $3.99

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#1 Posted by Ambaryerno (514 posts) - - Show Bio

Why can this book not find a consistent art team?

Not a fan of this art at all. Especially the funky shading on everyone's noses.

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#2 Posted by HighAccuser (9696 posts) - - Show Bio

Laura is bae but art is meh

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#3 Posted by coffeeprince29 (47 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh god the noses

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#4 Posted by Wowlock (907 posts) - - Show Bio

Ahh the S.H.I.E.L.D hypocricy...''We will make everyone answer for their crimes...but not ourselves''

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#5 Posted by Helloman (29619 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh god the noses

After you said this, I noticed it too.

Other than that, this looks good.

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#6 Posted by StellatedColt (887 posts) - - Show Bio

IS THAT MY BOY GAMBIT IN THE VARIANT COVER?

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#7 Posted by Ambaryerno (514 posts) - - Show Bio

@stellatedcolt said:

IS THAT MY BOY GAMBIT IN THE VARIANT COVER?

Yep. I think Remy is also appearing in issue 17.

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#8 Edited by Super_SoldierXII (7661 posts) - - Show Bio

That's not Wolverine. That's a teenage girl with a similar power-set, but nothing about that character is "Wolverine".

Logan, and the Wolverine "ethos" is an older, gruff, rough n tough, silent type, Clint Eastwood-esque, mentor like bad@ss.

I repeat, this ain't Wolverine.

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#9 Edited by Ambaryerno (514 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_soldierxii said:

That's not Wolverine. That's a teenage girl with a similar power-set, but nothing about that character is "Wolverine".

Logan, and the Wolverine "ethos" is an older, gruff, rough n tough, silent type, Clint Eastwood-esque, mentor like bad@ss.

I repeat, this ain't Wolverine.

Wolverine is whatever Marvel says it is, because last I checked, their name was on the trademark, not yours.

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#10 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (7661 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_soldierxii said:

That's not Wolverine. That's a teenage girl with a similar power-set, but nothing about that character is "Wolverine".

Logan, and the Wolverine "ethos" is an older, gruff, rough n tough, silent type, Clint Eastwood-esque, mentor like bad@ss.

I repeat, this ain't Wolverine.

Wolverine is whatever Marvel says it is, because last I checked, their name was on the trademark, not yours.

What a silly little defensive comment that had absolutely nothing to do with what I was intimating.

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#11 Posted by IndomitableRegal (15848 posts) - - Show Bio

Everything that went through my mind as I saw this:

Why can this book not find a consistent art team?

Not a fan of this art at all. Especially the funky shading on everyone's noses.

Oh god the noses

IS THAT MY BOY GAMBIT IN THE VARIANT COVER?

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#12 Posted by Ceramicdragon (38 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't draw any better than this artist. But it doesn't mean I have to pay $4 for it. The art sucks.

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#13 Posted by Ceramicdragon (38 posts) - - Show Bio

Why can this book not find a consistent art team?

Not a fan of this art at all. Especially the funky shading on everyone's noses.

Now I can't unsee that funky nose shading. Thanks!

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#15 Edited by King_Krown (1209 posts) - - Show Bio

Out of all the "passing of the mantles/shared mantles" that have recently occurred this one makes the most sense,but damn I wish they'd tweak her costume to give her a unique look. I mean Jane-Thor,Sam-Cap,Ms.marvel all her their own design.

Also,Anyone been keeping up with this book?I read about 5-6 issues,but I kinda of stepped back on some Marvel titles once I saw Civil War II started spilling into things. Just want to see if anyone thinks it's still worth reading.

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#16 Edited by Ambaryerno (514 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_krown said:

Out of all the "passing of the mantles/shared mantles" that have recently occurred this one makes the most sense,but damn I wish they'd tweak her costume to give her a unique look. I mean Jane-Thor,Sam-Cap,Ms.marvel all her their own design.

Also,Anyone been keeping up with this book?I read about 5-6 issues,but I kinda of stepped back on some Marvel titles once I saw Civil War II started spilling into things. Just want to see if anyone thinks it's still worth reading.

Absolutely. Best book in the X-line right now.

And she may be getting a costume tweak with ResurreXtion. Adam Kubert is working on SOMETHING with Laura on it, and while there's no details what it's for, it's definitely not her current costume:

See it here.

The problem is the only book we know she'll be appearing in when ResurreXtion begins so far is her solo. For some reason Marvel decided to use Old Man Logan in two team books (Gold and Weapon X) instead of splitting them as was done with EXM/ANXM so there's a lot of guessing as to what this is for. The only other (known) new X-Book we've not heard cast and creative team information for yet is Cable, and Kubert ALSO posted WIP pics of him (and like Laura, Cable isn't wearing his current costume from Uncanny Avengers).

It would be odd to see Laura as part of Cable's supporting cast considering they only ever interacted during the Messiah Trilogy, so either Marvel is shaking things up, or there could be other books coming that weren't part of the original announcement a couple weeks ago. Or perhaps she's joining Uncanny Avengers after Enemy of the State.

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#17 Posted by kidchipotle (15763 posts) - - Show Bio

THE NOSES. I CAN'T GET PASSED THE NOSES.

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#18 Posted by RabumAlal (4963 posts) - - Show Bio

She's in costume, what is there to hide?

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#19 Posted by Ambaryerno (514 posts) - - Show Bio

She's in costume, what is there to hide?

She's talking about Gabby hiding her own claws and healing factor.

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#20 Posted by GeekMangacomic (264 posts) - - Show Bio
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#21 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (7661 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_soldierxii:

You reading Old Man Logan? It's great.

I am actually. And I'm liking it. The alternate reality version of an old Wolverine is a good read, but it's not replacing a desire to see the good ole 616 Logan back in action.

I still have an issue with one thing though, as it's highly inconsistent, with the healing factor, how the heck did 50 years age him so much?

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#22 Posted by GeekMangacomic (264 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_soldierxii:

In Old Man Logan they mentioned that there were less than ten mutants still alive. It could be tied to that.

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#23 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (7661 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_soldierxii:

In Old Man Logan they mentioned that there were less than ten mutants still alive. It could be tied to that.

Maybe. I do wish they'd address it though. It needs to be clarified.

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#24 Posted by GeekMangacomic (264 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (7661 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_soldierxii:

It's still a good series nonetheless though.

It is.

The problem I have with Laura, is she puts the onus on "Feral". Which pushes the tired suggestion that feral is the primary proponent to being "Wolverine".

She's feral and vicious, sure, but all the bad writers on Wolverine over the years were the ones who put emphasis on Logan's "feral nature". Calling Laura "Wolverine" just feels like another way to do just that all over again.

The good writers addressed Logan's Bushido code, his stringent sense of honor and responsibility, none of which Laura had ever developed or experienced. They highlighted his martial nature and how a man of extreme violence could still evidence the greatest compassion and sense of what is right. I don't feel the same struggle with Laura at all.

I still feel that Claremont got Wolverine down the best from Uncanny X-Men 130 (from his classic phrase "You took your best shot, now it's my turn") through to Uncanny # 300, to his mini series in 1982 and the first few issues of his ongoing ...

But yeah, OML is not bad.