Pirate hunter vs. The quinto espada
Rules:
- In character
- Basic knowledge
- Location: Marineford
- Dressrosa Zoro
- Restrictions: None
- Win by death or K.O
If Nnoitra was in OP he’d be a god-tier. What can zoro possibly do to Nnoitra to hurt him at all or possibly even take an attack from him?
@gilateen: because he’s not strong enough. Unless you have anything that actually says he is.
@icky_yucky_ewy: That pica feat is enough to take him down so....
@gilateen: what exactly is the AP of that feat?
@icky_yucky_ewy: Don’t know what AP stands for but I just know that’s enough to bisect nnoitra.
@gilateen: you don’t know what attack potency is?????? Umm... how do you even have argument’s on the battles forum if you don’t know that?
Didn’t you read? I said I didn’t know what AP stood for....duuhhh.
That is a Large mountain level.
@gilateen: large mountain lvl is fodder to an espada.
@icky_yucky_ewy: No espada has feats beyond mountain and u know that my man
@exauce: for god’s sake man, how many times do I have to tell you that the statements make them country lvl because it isn’t contradicted. It’s also clearly author intent and Ulquiorra’s Lanza dwarfed Las Noches in size.
@icky_yucky_ewy: What statement? maybe u misunderstanding me with a another person cuz i don't remember even talking to you on Ulquiorra so....
@icky_yucky_ewy: No it’s not, where’s the proof? And I need feats, not statements. Their not even country level, quit the wank, no proof at all.
Nnoitra gets sliced up, but it's not an easy battle i'll give him that. Nnoitra is on or above the level of Grimmjow, someone who has mountain-small island level feats. I'd pull up scans but im on mobile
@gilateen: you can’t go making your own rules. Statements are reliable unless proven otherwise by a contradictory feat. You cannot prove the statement isn’t true so none of that “sTaTeMeNtS dOn’T mAtTeR” bull shit.
Wouldn't let me post but here's zoro cutting off the edge of a large mountain while holding back, he was just trying to test out his new sword.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EERTZreXUAAWLqC.png
Next feat we have Zoro cutting a large stone monster in half, mind you the monster was assimilated with most or all of the stone in the entire country of dressrosa, large mountain level feat at the worse.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EERTZrcWwAE6uZt.png
Same goes to you, I don’t care about statements, they haven’t shown country level feats so it’s pointless making it up.
You can’t even prove their at that level so might as well be quite.
Bet you wouldn’t like it if I used statements from one piece.
@gilateen: moron you can’t just make rules saying “no statements allowed”. I’d be perfectly fine with you using statements from one piece if they’re from a reliable character and not contradicted by anything.
Fool, Neither can you , they don’t have the feats to say they are, so how about showing me some feats, otherwise my mind won’t change.
I know the truth hurts but they don’t have country level feats on panel. I could care less about the statements, too bad they don’t have the feats to back it up.
@gilateen Why do you ignore statements?
There was also that meteor feat by Zoro in Stampede. Not only did he sliced that massive meteor, the impact of his slash attack had stopped the momentum of the two halves.
@gilateen Sorry but I have no idea why you ignore them and I don't think I've ever seen someone do that.
Not Ignoring anything, it’s just that they never shown they could do it. Simple as that.
@gilateen said: Its Like saying Whitebeard could the world and that would be a planet level feat which he doesn’t have.
if the statement is from a reliable source and doesn’t contradict anything then it’s acceptable and up for debate.
Here’s the result of a cero from an espada. That structure (Las Noche) is country sized. This backs up the statement that an espada’s gran rey cero would be able to destroy Las Noches and the only reason it didn’t is because it was aimed up.
@icky_yucky_ewy: No, las noche is small island to low country at best, provide solid feats for nnoitra please. I read all of bleach and besides getting beat up by zaraki and slashing a tired ichigo, he has nothing impressive.
zoro wins med dif with oden sword. He accidentally cut a piece of a large mountain and nnoitra feats aren't impressive.
@kidolio: How can Nnoitra attack potency be bad when he trashed versions of Ichigo and Kenpachi who both had better strength feats than Zoro
@FaradaySloth: I do doubt they actually do but even if they did, Nnoitra beat an ichigo who was completely exhausted and it’s hard to scale Kenpachi because he gets stronger after every fight that pushes him.
Also what do you mean by strength feat, do you mean durability?
“I do doubt they actually do ”
Watch Memories of Nobody
“Nnoitra beat an ichigo who was completely exhausted”
He wasn’t, doesn’t matter anyway, Nnoitra is superior to Grimmjow who was equal to Ichigo’s stats.
“ it’s hard to scale Kenpachi because he gets stronger after every fight that pushes him.”
Yep which is why I’m doing feats from Kenny at the beginning of fights.
“ Also what do you mean by strength feat, do you mean durability?”
Nope. If you’re body can maintain the force of your strength then logically your durability should remain at that point unless shown otherwise. Besides Nnoitra no sold the hits with his Hierro
@FaradaySloth: Memories of nobody isn’t canon unless you can prove that also you can just tell me the feats.
Ichigo was exhausted he wasn’t even able to put on his hollow mask, honestly that’s debatable who’d win in a fight considering the Espada are ranked by spiritual pressure alone. Like do you think Yammy who has the most spiritual pressure out of all the Espada could beat Stark, Barragan, or Ulqiorra?
What feat does Kenpachi have that is on the same level as Zoro’s feat with Pica?
Yeah that’s debatable, there’s reason most people discuss Durabilty and Attack Potency in different categories but sure if you want. Yeah he no sold Kenpachi’s hit until he didn’t.
@sonochinosadame: I’m not required to provide a feat if I have a character statement from a reliable source and it isn’t contradicted.
Memories of nobody isn’t canon unless you can prove that
The events being referenced in TYBW arc
And since Ichigo is the only person in the series to remember what happened, that means it's canon confirmed straight up Kubo.
Ichigo was exhausted he wasn’t even able to put on his hollow mask
He was still fighting through and still wasn't one-shotted by Nnoitra
honestly that’s debatable who’d win in a fight considering the Espada are ranked by spiritual pressure alone.
No, NNoitra would beat Grimmjow most definitely.
Like do you think Yammy who has the most spiritual pressure out of all the Espada could beat Stark, Barragan, or Ulqiorra?
Sure if he wasn't a complete idiot.
What feat does Kenpachi have that is on the same level as Zoro’s feat with Pica?
Yeah that’s debatable, there’s reason most people discuss Durabilty and Attack Potency in different categories but sure if you want. Yeah he no sold Kenpachi’s hit until he didn’t.
Kenpachi just became stronger than he was here lol.
@icky_yucky_ewy: You never proved anything you said but ok...
@FaradaySloth: Okay so it’s canon so that’s good for sena.
That’s more of a feat for Ichigo then Nnoitra, and no Ichigo was exhausted because the very reason Nnoitra fought Ichigo was because Nnoitra said he was injured. Ichigo also never used a getsuga or his mask, both of which he would use if he could.
Again that’s debatable.
No Yammy lacks both speed and durability feats to say he can match either of the three considering Ichigo was able to knick him and react to him.
That doesn’t look at all more impressive, he just broke a large chunk of the ground. Unless you can tell me how big a of a chunk he broke it’s not more impressive.
Actually now that I think about it, Nnoitra was never able to stop Kenpachi’s blade with his Hierro, even after his resurrecion.
Zoro should take this in a good fight.
Also, for the people still using that "Las Nochas is country level" feat.
It isn't.
It takes between 3-6 days to walk across/ around Las Noches, which isn't even close to country sized ( unless it's a very small country ).
A healthy person can walk between 20-30 miles a day on average.
The coast of the UK varies from 4500 to 7000 miles ( depending on which routes you take )
So, It takes around 100 to 150 days ( at minimum ) to walk around the entire coast of the UK ( with rest between each day included ) So let's be generous and say it only takes around 50 days to walk around it without resting in between.
( this is ofcourse based on the average result, without counting the fact that some people do it in less time )
That's still alot more than 6 days.
The Uk is pretty much the size of an average country.
The country of Luxembourg is one of the smallest countries in the world, and apparently takes around 9 days to walk across. ( note, it says across and not around )
Even if we divide those numbers by taking into account sightseeing, resting, lunch breaks and some people walking faster than others, it would still be alot more than 6 days around or 3 days across.
So, at best you can say that Las Noches is a little smaller than Luxembourg.
So there's no way that Las Noches is country sized.
Even if the Shinigami/Espada are somehow able to walk 5 times faster than the average human, it would still take atleast 10 days to walk around the coastline of the UK ( and that's me being generous ), so them walking around Las Noches in 6 days means it's not country level.
Las Noches is at best between the size of a big city or a large island.
So yes, it's safe to say that Nnoitra is between mountain or island level ( at full power ).
Which is something Zoro should scale to with his recent powerup.
If i'm being honest it would go like this:
Zoro would win low- mid-difficulty against Nnoitra in base.
It could go either way when Nnoitra is in his released form. ( although i think Zoro would still edge it and win high diff )
( this calculation is not the most accurate, i know, because it doesn't take everything into consideration, but it should still give you an idea how much bigger a country is compared to Las Noches )
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