Who wins and why?
Zoom Vs Silver Surfer
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Zoom. He wins because of his powers. Surfer can't touch him, while Zoom can.
The only way Surfer wins is by manipulating time.
"Zoom. He wins because of his powers. Surfer can't touch him, while Zoom can.The only way Surfer wins is by manipulating time."well said.
"Zoom. He wins because of his powers. Surfer can't touch him, while Zoom can.The only way Surfer wins is by manipulating time."unless SS can fly to space and make a force field that makes anything come into the area with him dead before it gets to him. but if they just appear infront of one another zoom takes this.
"Dude who has Zoom beat other than Flash. Surfer would look at him and laugh, while saying Im still fater than you b**Ch call me when you can time travel at will. Surfer leave laughing at him the whole time."With Zoom's powers, the Surfer won't even get a chance to start laughing. Who Zoom has beat other than the Flash is irrelevant to this battle.
"What the fuck is Zoom gonna do, he got destroyed by fucking Flash."dude that was a plot device, even with the speed of the other two flashes he said zoom was a blur, zoom wins 95% of battles he is in since he moves before they can even think, if SS is given prep i can see him winning but other then that zoom wins this.
"The Man of Yesteryear said:That's Zum from the Hyperclan. This is Zoom (Hunter Zolomon)."King Boo said:He got KO'd by on IMP lol."What is Zoom gonna do, he got destroyed by Flash.No."
"King Boo said:No sorry Zoom has not beat anybody other than Flash that you can name. And Surfer is still much faster than he is."What the fuck is Zoom gonna do, he got destroyed by fucking Flash."dude that was a plot device, even with the speed of the other two flashes he said zoom was a blur, zoom wins 95% of battles he is in since he moves before they can even think, if SS is given prep i can see him winning but other then that zoom wins this."
Static Shock said:
"SeSAW said:"Dude who has Zoom beat other than Flash. Surfer would look at him and laugh, while saying Im still fater than you b**Ch call me when you can time travel at will. Surfer leave laughing at him the whole time."With Zoom's powers, the Surfer won't even get a chance to start laughing. Who Zoom has beat other than the Flash is irrelevant to this battle. "
It is relevant you can't be that powerful a character if you only have a win against one guy, but loss to ever top tier you faced in the end come on.
"DC_Marvel_1000 said:dude zoom in under a second was able to hit WW sister in the leg 200 times, he does not want to beat the hero's of DC only make them better so thats why he does not go all out and zoom is much faster then SS for reason i should not have to say, he moves faster then all the flashes speed put together, and zoom only loses to plot device."King Boo said:No sorry Zoom has not beat anybody other than Flash that you can name. And Surfer is still much faster than he is."What the fuck is Zoom gonna do, he got destroyed by fucking Flash."dude that was a plot device, even with the speed of the other two flashes he said zoom was a blur, zoom wins 95% of battles he is in since he moves before they can even think, if SS is given prep i can see him winning but other then that zoom wins this."
Static Shock said:"SeSAW said:It is relevant you can't be that powerful a character if you only have a win against one guy, but loss to ever top tier you faced in the end come on. ""Dude who has Zoom beat other than Flash. Surfer would look at him and laugh, while saying Im still fater than you b**Ch call me when you can time travel at will. Surfer leave laughing at him the whole time."With Zoom's powers, the Surfer won't even get a chance to start laughing. Who Zoom has beat other than the Flash is irrelevant to this battle. "
Surfer wins for every reason Dr Manhattan stomps zoom and more
Surfer is magnitudes faster than zoom, the zoom is light speed X 25
while Surfer cuts across Galaxy Clusters in minutes, that's flying through hundreds of thousands of light years in seconds...its a totally different league
There is nothing zoom can do to hurt Surfer, this is the Surf guy who smiles at She-Hulk as she hits him full force in the face, this is a guy who fights inside blackholes. Even if by some kind of miracle zoom manages to destroy Surfer it doesn't matter so much since Surfer has reassembled himself in the past (ok he doesn't do it as quick as Dr M but its still enough to comeback and own zoom) and you need more than just punches to take him out...more like the big crunch
zoom doesn't have superman level durability, a simple punch is enough to end him
Once the Surfer man tags zoom its over, zoom going to be vaporized
I think the biggest problem here is Marvel bashing from the Superdickery fans
The Flashers always were useless but ever since the writers felt sorry for Flash they decided to be charitable and give him silly wins.
Now you get ridiculous claims like Flash is the most powerful guy in the universe
If Flash and his like are so powerful explain why he has never appeared 1st in any top 10 heroes or villains ever. That's because Flash and his ilk suck, ever since the writers felt sorry for Flash they decided to be charitable and give him a few wins. Now that Flash has scored a few plot induced wins over the Superdickeries all off a sudden the Flash people became the most over-rated people on the planet.
Surfer is more powerful than Zoom
Plus Surfer is faster than zoom
"Surfer wins for every reason Dr Manhattan stomps zoom and morePlus Surfer is faster than zoom"surfer is not even CLOSE to as fast as zoom and dr. manhattan and SS powers are much different in terms of what they can do to zoom, only reason zoom could not bear dr.M is because even if he went down to atoms he would come back and theres also the fact that zoom can not come closr to dr.M but he can with SS.
SeSAW said:
"DC_Marvel_1000 said:"King Boo said:No sorry Zoom has not beat anybody other than Flash that you can name. And Surfer is still much faster than he is."What the fuck is Zoom gonna do, he got destroyed by fucking Flash."dude that was a plot device, even with the speed of the other two flashes he said zoom was a blur, zoom wins 95% of battles he is in since he moves before they can even think, if SS is given prep i can see him winning but other then that zoom wins this."
That doesn't really matter becuase Zoom has punched WW from America to Paris and the Great Wall of China and to the Amzon Jungle and WW compared it to one of Supermans punch not to mention that Zoom hit WW 200 times in less than a second
"What is Zoom gonna do, he got destroyed by Flash."Pick up more comics with Zoom in them, then come back. Your post is incorrect.
SeSAW said:
"It is relevant you can't be that powerful a character if you only have a win against one guy, but loss to ever top tier you faced in the end come on. "No, it's not relevant. ABC logic never is. And, Zoom loses due to PIS. How come you don't understand this?
"King Boo said:I think he confused Zoom with Zum, the White Martian whom Flash IMPed into orbit."What is Zoom gonna do, he got destroyed by Flash."Pick up more comics with Zoom in them, then come back. Your post is incorrect.
"I think he confused Zoom with Zum, the White Martian whom Flash IMPed into orbit."He still needs to read more comics with Zoom in them. LOL.
"The Man of Yesteryear said:lol well it is true after all, i ave not been here long and i know the guy has MAD hater for DC."I think he confused Zoom with Zum, the White Martian whom Flash IMPed into orbit."He still needs to read more comics with Zoom in them. LOL."

"Plus Surfer is faster than zoom"
When Surfer can punch somebody a few million times in the same time to finish his sentence the we'll talk

"Surfer is magnitudes faster than zoom, the zoom is light speed X 25It doesn't matter how fast Surfer is. He'll be standing still to Zoom. Flash was upgraded many times past light speed just to fight Zoom, and he still couldn't keep up. The rest of your post doesn't mean anything because Surfer couldn't hit Zoom to save his life.
"Surfer is magnitudes faster than zoom, the zoom is light speed X 25while Surfer cuts across Galaxy Clusters in minutes hundreds of thousands of light years...its a totally different leagueThere is nothing zoom can do to hurt Surfer, this is the Surf guy who smiles at She-Hulk as she hits him full force in the face, this is a guy who fights inside blackholes. Even if by some kind of miracle zoom manages to destroy Surfer it doesn't matter so much since Surfer has reassembled himself in the past (ok he doesn't do it as quick as Dr M but its still enough to comeback and own zoom) and you need more than just punches to take him out.zoom doesn't have superman level durability, a simple punch is enough to end himOnce the Surfer man tags zoom its over, zoom going to be vaporizedI think the biggest problem here is Marvel bashing from the Superdickery fansThe Flashers always were useless but ever since the writers felt sorry for Flash they decided to be charitable and give him silly wins.Now you get ridiculous claims like Flash is the most powerful guy in the universe If Flash and his like are so powerful explain why he has never appeared 1st in any top 10 heroes or villains ever. That's because Flash and his ilk suck, ever since the writers felt sorry for Flash they decided to be charitable and give him a few wins. Now that Flash has scored a few plot induced wins over the Superdickeries all off a sudden the Flash people became the most over-rated people on the planet."surfer can't move fast enough to time travel, zoom can add in that sufer is only that fast in space it seems and you can't hurt what you can't hit, zoom blocked 1000 of flashes punches with one hand.
Silver Surfer is only able to achieve faster than light speeds via hyperspace. His reflex speeds are completely different.
"A few million? That all? Surfer has nano second reflexes, you need to up yours by the factor of 10^3(like I said magnitudes) Surfer works on levels of one billionth of a second.No matter what why you play this Zoom is outclassed by Dr Mand outclassed by a few magnitudes by Silver Surfer"where are you getting your facts of all this?
Zoom hasn't really lost a battle.
He's let people win to better than he's not a villain either, he just wants to better the heroes of dc.
Zoom is WAYY faster than the silver surfer and how are you supposed to hit something you can't see?
"Surfer has nano second reflexes, you need to up yours by the factor of 10^3But, Thanos, who is slower, has hit him so many times without any problems. Surfer has been tagged by many people slower than him. He can have nanosecond reflexes, but Zoom will always be several times ahead of him. Stop bringing Dr. Manhattan into this. There's another thread for that.
"TruePwnge said:That's for plot purposes only."Surfer has nano second reflexes, you need to up yours by the factor of 10^3But, Thanos, who is slower, has hit him so many times without any problems. Surfer has been tagged by many people slower than him. He can have nanosecond reflexes, but Zoom will always be several times ahead of him. Stop bringing Dr. Manhattan into this. There's another thread for that."
"A few million? That all? Surfer has nano second reflexes, you need to up yours by the factor of 10^3(like I said magnitudes) Surfer works on levels of one billionth of a second.Okay Zoom is faster than any Flash by himself but when Wally takes all the other Flasses Speed Force(Bart+Jay+Jess) and Zoom was still "a Blur"
i think WW said it's not that he is faster then her but it's the fact that he moves with time itself so he is already there when trys to do something.
"TruePwnge said:"Surfer has nano second reflexes, you need to up yours by the factor of 10^3But, Thanos, who is slower, has hit him so many times without any problems. Surfer has been tagged by many people slower than him. He can have nanosecond reflexes, but Zoom will always be several times ahead of him. Stop bringing Dr. Manhattan into this. There's another thread for that."
Not to mention that Thor has tagged him before and Thanos seemingly killed Surfer
"Static Shock said:That you Vance?"TruePwnge said:That's for plot purposes only.""Surfer has nano second reflexes, you need to up yours by the factor of 10^3But, Thanos, who is slower, has hit him so many times without any problems. Surfer has been tagged by many people slower than him. He can have nanosecond reflexes, but Zoom will always be several times ahead of him. Stop bringing Dr. Manhattan into this. There's another thread for that."
"Usual Suspect said:Is Vance a usual suspect?"Static Shock said:That you Vance?""TruePwnge said:That's for plot purposes only.""Surfer has nano second reflexes, you need to up yours by the factor of 10^3But, Thanos, who is slower, has hit him so many times without any problems. Surfer has been tagged by many people slower than him. He can have nanosecond reflexes, but Zoom will always be several times ahead of him. Stop bringing Dr. Manhattan into this. There's another thread for that."
"That's for plot purposes only."Nonetheless, Surfer's reaction time won't help him. Maybe I should have said that.
When Surfer can punch somebody a few million times "
A few million? That all?
Surfer has nano second reflexes, you need to up yours by the factor of 10^3
(like I said magnitudes) Surfer works on levels of one billionth of a second.
Surfer doesn't waste his energy throwing millions of punches, he hits you with one Plasma Photon Burst and its
SURPRISE YOU'RE DEAD
Static Shock said:
"Flash was upgraded many times past light speed just to fight Zoom"that sounds slow-mo for Surfer, SS hits warp speeds not light speeds
geraldthesloth said:
" how are you supposed to hit something you can't see?"exactly Surfer turns zoom into roadkill
DC_Marvel_1000 said:
zoom blocked 1000 of flashes punches with one hand."Surfer would duck and dance around a million flash punches while blind folded
No matter what why you play this over-hyped/over-rated yellow flash man is outclassed by Dr M
and outclassed by a few magnitudes by Silver Surfer
Since Manhattan crbstomps zoom
The only reason I can see zoom a winner here is basically Marvel-Bashing
"Usual Suspect said:i would still like to know where true got all this info from."That's for plot purposes only."Nonetheless, Surfer's reaction time won't help him. Maybe I should have said that."
"Usual Suspect said:I agree with that..i'm just saying that people who are slower than him tagging him doesn't validate that point.He's just slower than Zoom,it's that simple."That's for plot purposes only."Nonetheless, Surfer's reaction time won't help him. Maybe I should have said that."
"dreadmaster said:Where are you getting your reasons from?
When Surfer can punch somebody a few million times "
A few million? That all?
Surfer has nano second reflexes, you need to up yours by the factor of 10^3
(like I said magnitudes) Surfer works on levels of one billionth of a second.
Surfer doesn't waste his energy throwing millions of punches, he hits you with one Plasma Photon Burst and its
SURPRISE YOU'RE DEAD
Static Shock said:"Flash was upgraded many times past light speed just to fight Zoom"that sounds slow-mo for Surfer, SS hits warp speeds not light speeds
geraldthesloth said:" how are you supposed to hit something you can't see?"exactly Surfer turns zoom into roadkill
DC_Marvel_1000 said:zoom blocked 1000 of flashes punches with one hand."Surfer would duck and dance around a million flash punches while blind foldedNo matter what why you play this over-hyped/over-rated yellow flash man is outclassed by Dr Mand outclassed by a few magnitudes by Silver SurferThe only reason I can see zoom a winner here is basically Marvel-Bashing"
"that sounds slow-mo for Surfer, SS hits warp speeds not light speedsAnd, he's still slower than Zoom. Nice try.
"Usual Suspect said:Then I guess that makes me Vance :)"Is Vance a usual suspect?"Yes :P"
dude SS has been hit by people far slower then zoom, also show me a scan of SS going that fast in a battle? in space he is that fast but when has he shown all this ''speed'' in a battle?
He has maneuvered around galaxies and planets traveling thousands of light years in seconds
Surfer has fought with spaceships at warp speeds.
Things to keep in mind
SS is not a natural fighter, he would rather zap people with some effect, blast them with some plasma photon beam or drain their energies than hit them with kicks and uppercuts. Thor is totally natural fighter trained in Viking martial arts and since SS has little or no power over the hammer ie Odin magic so Thor finally owns him. Plus guys like Thanos have shields and preempt abilities that help them predict the future, so they can protect themselves and know when SS is going to attack.
Since zoom is totally outclassed by DC's Manhattan
the only reason I see zoom winning here is Marvel-Bashing
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