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#1  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000

well if zoom can beat darkseid and thanos can he beat  monarch.

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#2  Edited By Larfleeze

No, because even if he gets through his armor the blast will kill him and whatever universe they are in.

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#3  Edited By acewasp23

Lol he could probably beat him... but how will he survive the explosion afterwords?
its kind of a lose lose situation...

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#4  Edited By AtPhantom
Larfleeze said:
"No, because even if he gets through his armor the blast will kill him and whatever universe they are in."
Agreed. Stalemate at best.
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#5  Edited By Zoom

Why do we know destroying Monarch's armor will destroy a universe?  I assume this happened at sometime.

I'm also assuming this is current Monarch not Hank Hall (ugh) Monarch.

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#6  Edited By AtPhantom
Zoom said:
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Why do we know destroying Monarch's armor will destroy a universe?  I assume this happened at sometime.

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Superboy Prime ripped him open in countdown. It's not clear whether it destroyed the universe (Earth 51) or just all life in it, but either way Zoom ain't surviving it.
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#7  Edited By Zoom

Well thats what you get for reading Countdown.

Universe destroying armor.

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#8  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000

you know after he beats monarch he could just travel forward in time to after the blast had happened.

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#9  Edited By Larfleeze
Zoom said:
"Well thats what you get for reading Countdown.Universe destroying armor."

It wasn't the armor itself. It was just all his energy being released at once, the armor was just for containing it.
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#10  Edited By Zoom
DC_Marvel_1000 said:
"you know after he beats monarch he could just travel forward in time to after the blast had happened."
Zoom's powers don't work that way.

Larfleeze said:
"Zoom said:
"Well thats what you get for reading Countdown.Universe destroying armor."
It wasn't the armor itself. It was just all his energy being released at once, the armor was just for containing it."
So...was Monarch already dead at this point?

And what happened to Superboy Prime?  Cause I know he survived Countdown.

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#11  Edited By Larfleeze
Zoom said:
"DC_Marvel_1000 said:
"you know after he beats monarch he could just travel forward in time to after the blast had happened."
Zoom's powers don't work that way.

Larfleeze said:
"Zoom said:
"Well thats what you get for reading Countdown.Universe destroying armor."
It wasn't the armor itself. It was just all his energy being released at once, the armor was just for containing it."
So...was Monarch already dead at this point?And what happened to Superboy Prime?  Cause I know he survived Countdown."

No monarch just apparently exists as pure energy and is actually still alive.

Prime got blown into the future and is currently fighting the legion of super heroes.
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#12  Edited By Zoom

So that's how Prime got to the future?

Somebody needs to make a list of all the changes that happen in Countdown so I never have to go back and read it.  Wiki probably already has one.

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#13  Edited By TruePwnge
DC_Marvel_1000 said:
"well if zoom can beat darkseid and thanos can he beat  monarch."
That's a big if

Darkseid or Thanos crbstomp zoom
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#14  Edited By Static Shock

They need to bring Monarch back as Captain Atom and stop playing.

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#15  Edited By AtPhantom
Static Shock said:
"They need to bring Monarch back as Captain Atom and stop playing."
Idk, I kinda like the idea of Monarch, He was the only relatively cool character in Countdown. But still as confusing as the rest of them.
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#16  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
TruePwnge said:
"DC_Marvel_1000 said:
"well if zoom can beat darkseid and thanos can he beat  monarch."
That's a big ifDarkseid or Thanos crbstomp zoom"
naw i think he could beat them.
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#17  Edited By SeSAW

Will you please stop putting Zoom in battles you know he cant win.

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#18  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
SeSAW said:
"Will you please stop putting Zoom in battles you know he cant win."
what was the last battle i put him in where he can't win? him vs marvel earth he could win that.
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#19  Edited By Static Shock
AtPhantom said:
Idk, I kinda like the idea of Monarch, He was the only relatively cool character in Countdown. But still as confusing as the rest of them."
I feel you, but personality-wise, Captain Atom made a lot of sense. Monarch isn't bad. It's just that DC showcased him for power and nothing else.

SeSAW said:
"you know he cant win."
LOL. Still hating on Zoom?

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#20  Edited By SeSAW
DC_Marvel_1000 said:
"SeSAW said:
"Will you please stop putting Zoom in battles you know he cant win."
what was the last battle i put him in where he can't win? him vs marvel earth he could win that."
Are you serious he couldnt even beat Wonder Woman how can he do that.

Static Shock said:
"AtPhantom said:
Idk, I kinda like the idea of Monarch, He was the only relatively cool character in Countdown. But still as confusing as the rest of them."
I feel you, but personality-wise, Captain Atom made a lot of sense. Monarch isn't bad. It's just that DC showcased him for power and nothing else.

SeSAW said:
"you know he cant win."
LOL. Still hating on Zoom?"

No. Zoom is not a top tier he can die by a gunshot wound. Furthermore he has no significant wins other than beating Flash, its stupid to think he can face someon whos even Superman's level much less Monarch.
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#21  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
SeSAW said:
"DC_Marvel_1000 said:
"SeSAW said:
"Will you please stop putting Zoom in battles you know he cant win."
what was the last battle i put him in where he can't win? him vs marvel earth he could win that."
Are you serious he couldnt even beat Wonder Woman how can he do that.

Static Shock said:
"AtPhantom said:
Idk, I kinda like the idea of Monarch, He was the only relatively cool character in Countdown. But still as confusing as the rest of them."
I feel you, but personality-wise, Captain Atom made a lot of sense. Monarch isn't bad. It's just that DC showcased him for power and nothing else.

SeSAW said:
"you know he cant win."
LOL. Still hating on Zoom?"
No. Zoom is not a top tier he can die by a gunshot wound. Furthermore he has no significant wins other than beating Flash, its stupid to think he can face someon whos even Superman's level much less Monarch."
again dude he does not want to beat the hero's only make them better so he never trys to kill them.
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#22  Edited By Zoom
SeSAW said:
"No. Zoom is not a top tier he can die by a gunshot wound. Furthermore he has no significant wins other than beating Flash, its stupid to think he can face someon whos even Superman's level much less Monarch."
Can you get me some of the comics you've been reading SeSAW.  Cause I swear we're reading about two different characters.

Your Zoom is a scientist who has only beaten the Flash and died because he got shot.  The Zoom I read about...well he's none of those things.
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#23  Edited By Static Shock
SeSAW said:
"its stupid to think he can face someon whos even Superman's level."

The first part of your post means nothing right now. I've addressed it in other threads. And, how is it stupid to think he can take someone on Superman's level when he's done it before? Do you even know how he's able to hurt people on Superman's level? He's throwing punches faster than the speed of light.

SeSAW said:
"Are you serious he couldnt even beat Wonder Woman how can he do that."

Wonder Woman winning = PIS.